I think they suck...not only because they went anti-christian but they are not that good.
What really makes me PO-ed is that they said they were christians and it was a christian band, but once they got popular, they went antijesus and they make fun of his death...and they swear SO MUCH...
if fame can do that to someone, i hope im never famous, to many christian bands are selling out....

Its because, I guess because if your "Christian", then your better or something, so, ya, thats the way I feel.

I think they suck...not only because they went anti-christian but they are not that good.
What really makes me PO-ed is that they said they were christians and it was a christian band, but once they got popular, they went antijesus and they make fun of his death...and they swear SO MUCH...
if fame can do that to someone, i hope im never famous, to many christian bands are selling out....


Forgive me for being so blunt, but you are very ignorant. I am so sick of seeing these stupid posts about this band on Xian (Christian) forums because the people who start them usually know nothing about the situation apart from they heard they didn't want to be a Xian band anymore and were swearing durring an interview. Sit down and shut up.

Now let me enlighten you with the facts on what happened so you don't have to flame the band like a clueless n00b. The band started as a Xian band a few years back and their first album, Origin, was a Xian album released on the Xian market. When Fallen was released last year, they decided they didn't want to be on the Xian market any longer and wanted to focus on the more secular market because that's where most of the people who liked their music would be... so they thought. 90% of the people who bought the album when it was first released was from Xian bookstores. They didn't get popular on a secular market until they got on the soundtrack for Daredevil.

I do think Ben went a little over the edge when they renounced their ties to Xian music by swearing in that interview, but they never said they were against Christ. And don't use swearing as an excuse to call them non-Xian because 90% of the people here swear from time to time. They made a decision to go into a secular market and not Xian... Nothing wrong with that... Read my posts on that topic here:

http://www.panheads.org/boards/board=4;action=display;threadid=560

most of the songs on Fallen were also on Origin which was the origional Xian album, hence, most of the songs on Fallen are Xian songs.

I hope this helped.

CJ

I'm not getting at anyone for this. This is just a personal observation of Xian music.

Xian music places bands in a box, they must dress a certain way, act a certain way, play a certain way. They must preach at concerts, encourage Christians, sometimes pray at concerts. Only play certain styles of music, play worship music too.

NO WONDER so many Christian artists wish to go mainstream! You don't get that kind of pressure. Mainstream pretty much lets you play and perform as you want, not as how you are expected to play and perform.

People complain about God being stuffed into a box, well what about Christians being stuffed in a box? That's what I believe alot of Christian music does to the bands, not all, but a good chunk of them.

If a band is not called to preach at concerts, then they do not have to preach at concerts. It's that simple. I am certain there are dozens of Christians IN bands that are mainstream that are there simply because they don't want to be pressured into living a certain way.

Christ came and fulfilled the demands that none of us can meet up to - the law.

Now instead of enjoying our freedom from law, what do we do? Force Christian artists under ANOTHER unachievable law!

let's just make sure this topic stays nice, otherwise it'll go the way of the do-do bird. :- keep things nice. :)

it'll go the way of the do-do bird
What? Noah sending it out of the window to find land only to realise it can't fly thus killing one of the only two then denying it ever happened?

(LOL my own idea on how they went extinct ;))

Hey, I get Chistian music like this, Its not Christian music, call it Chirstian lyriced music, Chrisian message sounds the same as allot of bands, but there message is about Christ.

while i do agree that many musicians who are christians and want to reach the world should part their ways w/ the "christian music" ties because it does make them stuffed in a box, I do think that Evanescence has gone too far. They cuss an awful lot and they are basically severing all the ties they once had w/ Christianity and saying that their songs were not inspired from Christianity but from life experiences. Now, I do know that many of the songs off Fallen their latest cd do sound like they came from Christian life experiences such as Bring Me To Life, Tourniquet, and Taking Over Me. However if you ask a "christian" band that has crossed over into the mainstream (such as blindside) about thier christianity and the meaning behind their songs, they will most emphatically state that their songs were inspired by their personal faith. While bands like Blindside are definately not ashamed to be classified as Christian, evanescence is.

I wudn't necessarily call it 'shame' seems more like they just dont wanna be labelled!

Swearing is bad I'll admit that. But having a swearing problem doesn't nullify your faith... otherwise I'm well screwed.

while i do agree that many musicians who are christians and want to reach the world should part their ways w/ the "christian music" ties because it does make them stuffed in a box, I do think that Evanescence has gone too far. They cuss an awful lot and they are basically severing all the ties they once had w/ Christianity and saying that their songs were not inspired from Christianity but from life experiences. *snip*


Isn't that kinda hypocritical considering you have a picture of Klay Scott on your portfolio even tho he has renounced his ties to religion and calls Circle of Dust a mistake? :P

CJ

I do think Ben went a little over the edge when they renounced their ties to Xian music by swearing in that interview, but they never said they were against Christ. And don't use swearing as an excuse to call them non-Xian because 90% of the people here swear from time to time. They made a decision to go into a secular market and not Xian... Nothing wrong with that... Read my posts on that topic here:

http://www.panheads.org/boards/board=4;action=display;threadid=560

most of the songs on Fallen were also on Origin which was the origional Xian album, hence, most of the songs on Fallen are Xian songs.

I hope this helped.

CJ

I dont have a problem with them changing from Christian to NonChristian, what my problem is is that they were Christian, and then all of a sudden, poof. They are on tv mocking Jesus saying "I am just like the other guy on the cross, i just want you to remember me." and saying "how the f*ck did we get up there" when asked about why they were number 1 on the christian music charts. They went from Christian to hardcore antichristian. And aparently you didnt read the interview very well because it was mainly Amy Lee who was doing the crap talking. I already knew all about evenescence, and no, im not a "clueless nOOb". Im withholding from saying what i think about you...but yeah.
I have no problem with Secular bands, i dont care if a band switches from christian to nonchristian for a good reason, But evanescene is a sellout band in my opinion. They are doing it all for the $$$. They didnt sellout until they started being liked by the mtv culture.
Im not going to be imature like you and call you ignorant or say your posts are stupid, or call you a cluelessnob....but ill say this. Do your research better next time you post. I am not a stupid person who knows nothing about music and posts just for the fun of it. All my posts are well thought out and backed up. I know a lot about music, im not going as far as to say i know more that you, because i dont know you, but i know alot.
Farewell...
Andrew

I'm not getting at anyone for this. This is just a personal observation of Xian music.

Xian music places bands in a box, they must dress a certain way, act a certain way, play a certain way. They must preach at concerts, encourage Christians, sometimes pray at concerts. Only play certain styles of music, play worship music too.

NO WONDER so many Christian artists wish to go mainstream! You don't get that kind of pressure. Mainstream pretty much lets you play and perform as you want, not as how you are expected to play and perform.

People complain about God being stuffed into a box, well what about Christians being stuffed in a box? That's what I believe alot of Christian music does to the bands, not all, but a good chunk of them.

If a band is not called to preach at concerts, then they do not have to preach at concerts. It's that simple. I am certain there are dozens of Christians IN bands that are mainstream that are there simply because they don't want to be pressured into living a certain way.

Christ came and fulfilled the demands that none of us can meet up to - the law.

Now instead of enjoying our freedom from law, what do we do? Force Christian artists under ANOTHER unachievable law!

I agree, what i was trying to say was that I have no problem with Evanescence going mainstream, but its obvious that they have ditched their personal christianity because of fame...(this is my opinion)
So yeah...

but its obvious that they have ditched their personal christianity because of fame

How is it obvious?

Not to interrupt your little bickerfest with Teraasin but the first lines of his post was

"Forgive me for being so blunt"

He also didn't call you a clueless N00b he said
"so you don't have to flame the band like a clueless n00b."

Just wondering isn't your saying

Im not going to be imature like you and call you ignorant or say your posts are stupid, or call you a cluelessnob....but ill say this. Do your research better next time you post. I am not a stupid person who knows nothing about music and posts just for the fun of it.

Being more immature than u sed u'd be?

Just wondering...

Sit down and shut up.

Now let me enlighten you with the facts on what happened so you don't have to flame the band like a clueless n00b.



Realy dont you think you shouldnt have said that in the first place? i think this thread is geting out of control my opion of the band is that the are ashamed to be on a chirsten book shelf and be on the sercular its sad that the want to go off chirsten market its ashamed that the are ashamed to be on a chirsten musi shelf in a chirsten book store and my opion is the do stink there just not my type of what you call ROCk

How is it obvious?

Not to interrupt your little bickerfest with Teraasin but the first lines of his post was

"Forgive me for being so blunt"

He also didn't call you a clueless N00b he said
"so you don't have to flame the band like a clueless n00b."

Just wondering isn't your saying

Im not going to be imature like you and call you ignorant or say your posts are stupid, or call you a cluelessnob....but ill say this. Do your research better next time you post. I am not a stupid person who knows nothing about music and posts just for the fun of it.

Being more immature than u sed u'd be?

Just wondering...

Ok buddy...1st...its obvious. They have countless pictures of the band flipping everyone off, they swear, they said "Im just like the thief on the cross, i just want you to remember me." They are obviously not wanting to be on the christian market...but maybe your right, they are probaly very nice respectfull Christians just full of loving kindness....
2nd. WHEN did I say that he called me that...I only said " I AM NOT A CLUELESS nOOb"
3rd. That is not immature at all. I simply told him to do better research if he wants to argue. I know a lot about music.
I dont have to act like a immature 3rd grader to get my point across.

Now, if everyone is done...perhaps we can debate this in a mature way without calling names....please?

ok...im taking bets now...how many more posts before this thread is locked?

lol. Very few I'm guessing.

I still don't think it's shame. Everyone keeps putting words in their mouth and saying they are this and that. Why don't you just let them say what they think? Oh yeah they did. They don't wanna be a Christian band. No more, No less.

ya know while it is a complete shame that they have turned thier backs on being a christian band (sorry Terra but I completely disagree with you, but we've had that discussion before). I think it's more of a shame that nobody has mentioned how much evensence needs prayer. It's completely possible that they went into the mainstream market with the best of intentions and couldn't handle the temptation that the secular music world has to offer. Thats' one fact most can agree upon. Or maybe I skimmed over the posts a bit. Tho I completely disagree with leaving the christain market. I think that labels should not shun christian artists. I think that there are a lot of christian bands who could get airplay on both secular and christian radio while still maintaining being a christian band. With nonchristain labels it is all about how much money the artist with make for the label. Since sex, drugs, and rock n roll sells in the secular market that's what they want to promote. Heaven forbid they take on a band with a message that could change everything.

Two words


sex sells.


It's true though. Look at most female pop artists and tell me that getting people to lust over them doesn't sell? Kinda depressing...

All my posts are well thought out and backed up. I know a lot about music, im not going as far as to say i know more that you, because i dont know you, but i know alot.


Look, Ben and Amy are both good friends of mine. I knew them long before Fallen ever came out. So don't give me a load of crap about how you know what they think or how you know why they did what they did because you don't have a clue. All you and a lot of other people do is guess to the best of your ability which only displays your ignorance to the topic.

Maybe what I said is a little harsh, but maybe I'm sick of these fools posting false information because THEY THINK they have the answers. Here is a clue because you obviousely don't have one; you're wrong.

CJ

wow, 19 replies and already this heated. i don't think a thread has gone downhill so fast. it's a new record. ;)

seriously tho, both outoftheashes & TerraSin need to do one thing: BACK OFF. you are both at each other's throats over this. in the end does it matter? i'm not saying it doesn't to Evanescence, but to you, personally, would it matter what someone else thinks? even if it does bug you or hurt you, will it be the end of everything if the other side is wrong & you are right & you can't make them see the way of the right?

i believe Voltaire said something akin to "i may not agree with what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it." that is something we all need to remember. we each have an opinion. it will clash with someone elses. deal with it. even if it means you need to stay away from certain threads on certain message boards.

TerraSin, i know they are your friends, but even as such, even you don't know where their hearts are at. i could talk to my best friend every day about everything from the weather to the deepest of the deep topics. but do i really know what he is thinking? no. that is between him & God. he can say he's thinking something & i can trust him enough to believe him, but that doesn't mean i know. there's a difference.

outoftheseashes, you have "quoted" the band, yet if i quoted them as well as you did for my journalism class, i would fail. you haven't given us any evidence beyond "i saw this" or "this is my opinion." you have also said that you won't "be imature like [TerraSin] and call [him] ignorant or say [his] posts are stupid," yet you've done just that. maybe not by your exactly saying "you are stupid & immature TerraSin," but certainly you have through the wording & style of your writing. that is not cool. it's not just the words you say (or don't say) but it's how you put together the words you do say.

both of you need to back off & stop bickering like little kids. otherwise this thread will be locked before it gets to 3 pages. when that happens, both of you will still be angry at one another & a topic on a good band (musically speaking, of course) will be down the tube, making it awfully hard for the 500+ people on here to talk about them, just because you 2 wanted to tear each other up. so, stop now, or be forced to stop later. your choice.

^ amen couldnt have said it better

Nicely put, Mike. I obviously taught you all you know. ;)

Basically the Evanesence scandal comes down their hearts. Mike was right when he said that you don't know where their hearts are at. I don't care if Ben Moody and Amy Lee are your bestest best friends for life forever the bestest. You don't know what goes on in their hearts, in the dark of the night in their bedrooms. Only they and God do and if their hearts are set on Him, then it will become evident.


The same goes for you, ash boy. I don't care HOW many pictures you've seen of them "giving the finger". I don't care HOW many bad words you've read them say. I promise you that everyone one of us here has done one, if not both, of those things multiple times. I bet even you have too! :o You don't know the hearts of those band members anymore than CJ thinks he does.



Don't have to act like an immature third grader? Then why are you?

I love how people jump on you unless it's something they are doing themselves. If this was about any of your friends, you would be doing the same thing. If this was about Skillet on another board, you would be doing the same thing.

Maybe I don't know their hearts, but I know them well enough to know the reasons behind what they did. Maybe it was a bit harsh, maybe they did backslide from Christ, but they are still people and no different than any of us. And you'd get tired of it to if you saw it on EVERY CHRISTIAN BOARD YOU GO TO... It's getting old real quick.

CJ

You know what's getting old? Your supreme, better than all of you attitude. That's what.

You know what annoys me most? Not so much the fact that evanesacence went secular, and the fact that they claim that they are doing this about the music, (after all how do you classify abstract art?). Their songs, because they are written from true life experience, read "christian" in a way. (Even the song about "where is the love" by that band "black eyed peas" sounds pretty christian to me, even if the band isn't)

What annoys me is the attitude behind it. In general, when ever I see people defending the band's right to do music for the sake of music, or other bands, it always comes with an unchristlike agressiveness. That is what really annoys me. If we are christian, and christians ridicule us, and won't understand us, and put us in a box, wouldn't the best thing to do, be to pray for them, ignore them, and if one has to, lovingly state his/her case? I'm not just accusing evanescence of it, that wasn't my point. I'm talking about us, the fans, and other people I've met. I'm talking about the attitude I've seen all around me last summer when we were disscussing this on the old boards.

On a lighter note, TerraSin, last summer you expressed interest in seeing my art work for Fields of Innocence. It's not that great, in terms of technique, but when I get around to it, I'll finish my web site and post the art work I did here.

Mike was right when he said that you don't know where their hearts are at.

After doing some reading I'm actually beginning to question this belief that noone knows a mans heart. Quite a few verses, especially in the prophets speak of things like "Your hearts are filled with lusts and pride"

I know there's more than one mention of things like this in the Bible.

Lust and pride, sure. Every man's heart is filled with that. But like Mike was saying....

I talk to Chrishna every single day. We've been best friends for almost five years. We know each other probably better than we know anyone else. But I don't know where her heart is all the time, and I know she doesn't know about mine. Lust and pride is pretty blanketed.

I apologize for any thing I have said that was harsh or was out of line.
Alot of this was my opinion. Thats what a forum is for, Isn't it?? Post your opinions and discuss them??? Anyways, i did go way out of line and i wish to apologize to Terrasin and anyone else i offended.

wow...still not locked yet...i guess i lost the bet, i would have said about 5 more posts..lol

Whatever, just like on the AY boards, you have people talking about this same exact subject and I get flamed for defending them. Get a clue.

CJ

TerraSin, i'm not getting on your case so much about defending them. i know what i wrote previously didn't convey that too well, but you were just being a good friend. i applaude you for that. but what i don't like is the way you went about it. you don't slam one person to build up another (or keep them from getting slammed). i'm 101% certain Christ wouldn't have done that. & since we're called to do as Christ did... (yes i know we'll fail, but we should try!)

Underdog & doormonkey, betting on when this thread gets locked is even more immature than the bickering that was going on. it's one thing to joke about a stupid thread getting locked, but one like this is just wrong. you should either stay out of it, or do something productive.



disclaimer: all of the above (& the previous post of this author as well) was said with love. have a nice day.

I just dislike Eva.'s sound. If they don't wanna be in the Christian market, no problem with me.

I like the singer's voice, and the way when she sings it sounds real. You don't often hear that these days.

It's rare for a band NOT to have computer messing with their voice. Then when they sing live... Ick.... lol

It's rare for a band NOT to have computer messing with their voice. Then when they sing live... Ick.... lol

Thats why i love HARDCORE

It's rare for a band NOT to have computer messing with their voice. Then when they sing live... Ick.... lol


i know what you mean. with AudioSlaves song Show Me How to Live, his voice does this thing at the end that totally has to be computer effects messing it up. it adds to the song, sure. but imagine hearing it in concert. it just wouldn't be the same. (unless you had some really good tech guys who could do it live).

very VERY good tech guys...

after I saw Daredevil I thought wow that would be cool if they were a christian band. the very next day I read an article on the fiasco.... oh well....

I still insist that the singer, when she sings, sounds real. She sounds like she is singing from the bottom of her heart,whether she is or not, it doesn't matter so much. Good acting. You don't get very many singers now-a-days, who sound like they are singing from the bottom of their heart. I usually works the other way around. My former church, sounded passionate and joyful when singing live, but when they were recorded in a studio they sounded more like they were scared of ruining the recording. The passion was missing. And a lot of singers today sound more like they are enjoying the sound of their voice than singing because they believe in what they are singing.

I agree with you there. No matter what she's singing... Amy sounds real.

I just came across this verse, it has to do with knowing the thoughts of man and God. So just to add it to the posts from the last page. 1st. Cor 2:11-For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
Anyhow the subject of the passage was the apostles speaking by wisdom from the Holy Spirit. I thought it applied nicely here.

I heard that these guys covered "Zero" at their show. Has anyone heard or seen this? Give details!!!

They also did an acoustic recording of Heart Shaped Box by Nirvana. I got that one. :P

we actually alreay have a thread (http://www.panheads.org/boards/showthread.php?t=755&page=3&pp=15&highlight=Evanescence) about them already.

thanks skilltroks. :) she's right, which is why i merged the threads into one.

I heard a song last night on the rock station. It had a woman singing, so I assume it was Amy Lee. It sounded alot like her. And a guy sang some parts ( no im not talking about bring me to life). But I can't remember how it goes.. It was awesome though.. I still like Evanescence.

IT was Seether featuring amy lee. I knew it was her. Its called Broken . It rocks .

Yeah i just listened to that song. They have some gr8 harmony.

-_-

I am not the biggest fan of theirs but I still kind of like their music. My favorite song of theirs is Fallen

I am not the biggest fan of theirs but I still kind of like their music. My favorite song of theirs is Fallen

Isn't that the album name? My sister likes Evanescence a lot. They are her favorite band. Amy Lee is pretty much her role model.
I like the band okay. I mean, Amy Lee has a beautiful voice. She is one of the best female vocalists I have ever heard and I think her clothes are pretty cool. I like their songs enough, but I'm not exactly a big fan. My sister talks about them so much that Evanescence almost seems like an overused subject to me. Sometimes their songs are too depressing when I'm in the mood for something poppy and catchy.

Yeah, I know somebody whos little sistre listens to them. I really don't like them because they used to be a christian band then they thought making money and being famous was more important than making music for the Lord and spreading the word

I love their music but it was a huge disapointment when they sold out. I bought the magazine that had their whole statement rejecting christianity. Had to show it to some of my friends. That sucked, though they are extremely gifted. My favorite song of theres is prob Imaginary from Fallen or Lies from Origin. Um, I need to get Origin, looks like they re-released it so that you can get it for under $200.

Really guys ,im gonna say something postive about them, thats a first, I find meaning in there song "Bring Me To Life", plus, if Paul Macoy is in it, it kinda has to be a Christian song. I mean, htey used to be Christian, so that song could be, but I really don't like them other than that.

Evanescence, hahahahahaha what a loser band.

Evanescence, hahahahahaha what a loser band.

Ill, I think I almost agree ;D

My favorite song of theres is prob Imaginary from Fallen or Lies from Origin. Um, I need to get Origin, looks like they re-released it so that you can get it for under $200.

My fav song of theirs has to be Missing. It isn't on the origional release of Origin so I was glad to hear they put it on the new copy because it is really an amazing song. I have the origional version of Origin and bought the new cd in mp3 format but I would like to buy a cd copy if I can find it. If you know a website other than ebay selling it, let me know. :)

CJ

i really like evanescence. i love amy lee's voice and i lov etheir musci. I do agree that it can be a bit dpressing after a while, but i really like their music.

Evanescence, hahahahahaha what a loser band.
okay, ya, other than Bring Me to Life, I don't like them, so ill agree with him, sence he said something "YAAA"

I like Evanessence okay. They're definitely not my favorite band. What is annoying is local radio stations playing "Bring Me to Life" and "My Immortal" constantly. Me to the radio stations: "the songs rocked the first couple of times, but don't you think playing them every other song is getting kinda old?"

Evanescence... MAN THEY'RE ANNOYING!!! The lady has a nice voice... but they need more people in the band... just M/O,

Man, I can't STAND Evanescence! The lead singer's voice is so incredibly annoying. The BG music and such is really kewl though. Why'd they have to waste it by letting that chick sing? x_X

A freind of mine said Amy(lead singer)looked like she was retarted on the cover of Fallen

A freind of mine said Amy(lead singer)looked like she was retarted on the cover of Fallen

LOL! ^^;; Now that you mention it, she does kinda.

Amy Lee is mental midget

"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Matt 7:12 NASB)

this was copy/pasted directly from the Laws of the Land (http://www.panheads.org/boards/showthread.php?t=241) in the Announcements (& obviously was taken from the Bible). does making fun of someone fall under that? would you be all "peaches & cream" if someone called you a "mental midget?" i doubt you be happy about it. please be considerate towards others, even if they will never read your post. that's not the important part. just the fact that you wrote it is enough.

I wanted this to be put in here as well. This topic, on all the Xian forums I go to, has been the one that seemingly takes the most flaming... I think Unshakable hit it right on and I think it should start being made into a rule. If you don't like the topic, don't post there...

look, if you don't like an artist, does that mean you have to tell the world, or even a small group of people on a message board who happen to like talking about that artist? no. just because there is a thread, does not mean you have to post in it. for example, i don't really care for Britney Spears (& as a sidenote, even if you don't like the person, it's courteous to them & those who like that person or their music to spell the name correctly, especially after you've been told how. manners people). but just because i don't like Britney's music, doesn't mean i have to talk trash about her in a thread that is dedicated to her. sometimes the best thing you can say (or type) is nothing at all. too bad we (me included) don't always do the best thing.

Side Note Edit: I myself have been guilty of flaming topics, and I was wrong in doing so. I also feel, after being on some of these other forums, it's not being very Christ like to come into a topic and start trouble with people who want to talk about things they like... think about it.

CJ

I think they suck...not only because they went anti-christian but they are not that good.
What really makes me PO-ed is that they said they were christians and it was a christian band, but once they got popular, they went antijesus and they make fun of his death...and they swear SO MUCH...
if fame can do that to someone, i hope im never famous, to many christian bands are selling out....

Evanescence was never a Christian band. Even the song "Lies" on the album "Origin" sounds like it could be a Christian song, but they never were. Also, only Ben Moody said he was a Christian. Lead singer, Amy Lee is not a Christian and never claimed to be. They have never come off to me as anti-Jesus and I have never ever heard them make fun of his death.

But not making fun doesn't mean there a Christian band, and I wouldn't call Pillar a "Christian" band, I say there lyrics have Christian meaning in them, but like I said ealier, I thought that "Bring Me To Life" sounded like lyrics similar to what a Christian artist would write.

Lead singer, Amy Lee is not a Christian and never claimed to be.
actually I saw an interview once and she specifically said, "I am a Christian."

i really like their album, "fallen" but i was disappointed to hear they're not Christian anymore. i'm pretty sure they were when they wrote that album but then they got popular and denounced Christ and said how they were never Christian and now they cuss a whole bunch and all that. it's one thing to just be a secular band, it's another to be Christian and no longer be Christian. i doubt i'll be buying their next album. kinda sad cause it's hard to find good bands w/ girl singers. seems like a lotta them are guys. maybe cause most female artists seem to sing more pop than rock. anyways, that's what i have to say :-D

tsk tsk tsk amy. :'( :'( :'(

It's like a circle. You get done explaining something and then the next completely ignorant person comes in proclaiming they know what's going on and it starts all over agian. I'm not even going to bother this time. Read my former posts.

CJ

completely ignorant person comes in proclaiming they know what's going on
What else would you expect around here?

I'm giving my opinion once, and that's it- people can do what they want with it.

I like her voice. I think she has the capability of writing powerful songs. I don't like the style or the sound. As far as their stance is about not wanting to be in the Christian Music Industry- the way CCM is nowadays, who can really blame them? I'm just as dissapointed as anyone about what they said and the way they removed themselves from the Christian market, but still...I just can't be angry at them.
But I do still hope that they open themselves up to God. I think there's a good chance that they will.

To any of the evanecence fans out there, especially those who know some of their rarer songs, I just performed at my university for the end of the semester dance show, a solo to the song "Feilds of innocence". Well actually I had to cut it up and shorten it because I didn't want my solo to last more than 2 minutes. My performance wasn't the gratest, but wasn't too bad either. At least the beautiful music covered for that. My dance was about searching for a lost dream.
The thing about Amy's voice, the way she sings, and the lyrics that sound so convincing, is that it is always a great inspiration for dance.

Hope they are in God's loving hands!

i like evanesence note: get there cd

have you heard the song amy lee has with seether... BROKEN.. a very bad song, but sticky, i spend the whole day singing it... i cant take it out from my head

I like the song, has some good meaning and it was very well done. :)

The music vid was really dumb tho

CJ

I saw the vid... i liked, actually i have been listening the song and the video, and it is really good, now i like it

I have a quckie question did Evanescence sing/do "That's what dreams are made of" on The Lizzie McGuire Movie?

no, that's Hillary Duff...

evanesence rocks

this thread is probably nearing its demise but i have to put my two cents in. if you guys are coo coo for evanescence, check out Lacuna Coil. they are an Italian band that started this whole genre. 1998 was their first release. they are touring with POD this summer. give 'em a shot!

jdev

no, that's Hillary Duff...i was lookibng on line for lyrics to that song.. and somehow evanescence came up.

Yeah, Amy Lee ALWAYS comes up, no matter what you're doing (I look at the fan bases on LAUNCHcast for several different groups, and there it is -- Evanescence.)

lacuna was ok.. i saw them and pod and blindside and they were kew.. may 28th... lol,,, hahahhaa

this thread is probably nearing its demise but i have to put my two cents in. if you guys are coo coo for evanescence, check out Lacuna Coil. they are an Italian band that started this whole genre. 1998 was their first release. they are touring with POD this summer. give 'em a shot!

jdev
Yeah, I don't know why people are so obsessed with such a... man, Amy Lee...

But to get to my point, I'll try to find them on LAUNCHcast, but do they have a website? (Christian or non-Christian?)

OOH! I'd better start writing these down... Christian or not? If in-between, that's fine by me!

this thread is probably nearing its demise but i have to put my two cents in. if you guys are coo coo for evanescence, check out Lacuna Coil. they are an Italian band that started this whole genre. 1998 was their first release. they are touring with POD this summer. give 'em a shot!

jdev

A band in the same genre as Evanescence/Lacuna Coil would be Nightwish (www.nightwish.com). Tarja Turunen's voice is incredible. :) They're similar to these bands, but I feel they have a better musical style that is more mature. They're been around since 1996; and they're labeled as gothic metal. :o

I have mixed feelings on Evanescence. I love Amy Lee's voice, but their music isn't anything special to me. *shrugs*

... do they have religious standings? Or no?

Maybe it'd help if you clicked that link there. But no, I have no idea of their religious standings or affiliations with such. I haven't heard anything Christian, Buddhist, Satanic, Wiccan, etc. about them.

good. neutral (like Trapt) is better than against, right? unlike Amy Lee...

As for Amy Lee, I like her voice. If she is christian/not/etc I wouldn't be upset with it for any reason. I know where they stand. I like bands' music that I can relate to. If the band member turned out to be satanic, would I drop the band? no. Definitely not.

But for the sake of staying on topic:

Does anyone know if Evanescence is coming out with another cd? With Ben Moody gone, this probably delayed them a bit... I wonder how their music will differ?

Evenescence does in fact have another cd coming out soon. Ben was talking about the new tracks and how Evanescence is starting to move into a different direction. He didn't get into too much detail about it but he did wish them the best. I think it will be interesting to hear the new stuff, but I'm kinda wary about the whole thing. Guess we have to wait and see.

Ben has been doing a lot of side work along with his own music. He's been working with a lot of bands like Avril lately and is working on his solo cd which should be pretty decent from what I've heard so far.

CJ

Yeah, I'd be glad to hear his solo CD. (BTW... wary, not weary... my lil sis does the same thing, lol)

Whaaaa? I don't know what you are talking about! *innocent smile*

CJ

hm? I said nothing. ::]

Yeah, I don't know why people are so obsessed with such a... man, Amy Lee...

But to get to my point, I'll try to find them on LAUNCHcast, but do they have a website? (Christian or non-Christian?)
In reference to Lacuna Coil: Christian or non, they are a good band. Angst driven (gee theres a new lyrical concept) like any other neo gothic nu metal sound. Shes hot, AND Italian! and yes they are on launch.

;) jdev

OOO-K. But anyways, I always loved her music before, but I can't just listen to a band I know I don't like... after what she did, I think I can't listen to it without cringing. That's why I prefer neutral music!!!

well i know shes dating, or was dating the lead singer from seether, but anyways, she has a voice likeu wouldnt beleive and the band rocks. im sure the musica may shift slightly depending on the new guy or girl they get. I think it would be awesome too have a female beside Amy Lee

Yes, that would (perhaps, depends on who) her sound a bit.

Ben was talking about the new tracks and how Evanescence is starting to move into a different direction.


That's interesting. The thing that I think is going to hinder Evanescence is that Ben was one of the 'originals.' Not saying they can't be good, but there was more of a connection I suppose with Ben/Amy.

not only was ben an "original"... he started it. he's the one that discovered Amy at a CHRISTIAN youth camp. He also wrote a majority of the songs. (and that connection u mentioned prolly came from the fact that they were engaged for a while before the band hit it big) I still think that Amy Lee's voice is amazing and its prolly one of the best i've heard. she's gorgeous, too. but since all this crud, i've lost all respect for her. if anyone saw the grammys-- he wasnt in the band at that time... but Amy didnt even mention Ben in her thanks when they won for best new artist. i was stoked when they won, but as she walked off, my attitude towards them was completely changed. and yeah they do cuss alot now... i mean even before all this, i saw them in concert last april... like as in a year ago... and she totally surprised me when her greeting to us was nothing but cussing.

Amen! You said it best, Katie! I was waiting for you to post...

lol the only reason i bother is cuz i used to be as obsessed with them as i am now with skillet and pillar.

Well, there IS a difference between love and obsession, lol. But I would have posted all that myself, but you show such emotion in your posts like I never could, because I am not attatched to Amy Lee. I just liked her music.

i was never attached..... im just an actress. haha i like passion.... wait i guess that would show more my drama queen tendancies.... lol. w/e

lol, I guess, I just meant I never really ADORED her music, I just thought it was really good. Not noteworthily good, but good nonetheless. Am I keepin' it on track with the topic?

lol. kinda but i admire your attempts

I'm staying on-topic... but just barely... because ...


... but what she did was the worst thing I could have imagined.

i do agree. it was a bad moral decision even for someone who has publicly denounced Christianity

yep. Her judgement I am inclined not to lean on... or near... or within a 20 mile radius of, lol... seriously.

meh i don't really have much of a clue what you're talking about, but i guess i could put my 2 cents in...i dunno i really really like evanescence, i always have and it didn't really matter to me that they said that they weren't christian, just wondering, but when did they say they were? i'm not saying they didn't, but i just never knew that they did. oh well. besides i listen to bands A LOT worse than evanescence.

... point proven, lol. I listen to none worse than Evanescence. It's mentally damaging, and reminds me of my wicked past when I loved all sorts of things... and the fact is, I listen to bands that aren't Christian, but never once did they stand AGAINST Christianity... and never did they betray their own band members

well so do i... and its not just the fact that they denounced christianity. its also how she's treated ben moody, the former guitarist and founder of the band. he's definately a christian and she kicked him out of the band and has tried to erase his existence. this isnt saying that their music sucks... cuz it doesnt... we're just bashing Amy Lee and her judgement. lol.

(that was a reply to cinnamonxspider, not disciple)

Yes... the only Judgement I trust is the Divine Judgement, lol, but that's not what I mean. She judged Ben and everything he stood for, and thus, gave him the boot. Don't know how the founder can get booted from hisown band, but they difinitely parted ways, lol.

hold up...ben moody was a christian? he's the one i heard saying "THE F WORD" (ooh big scary word) all over the place, but mind you, i'm never really down with interviews or whatev. i just listen to the music. what i'm sayin is, if ben moody was a christian, he freakin sucked at it.

WHOA. Down fido, lol. He's a Christian, conceited thee or no. I hardly think he cursed. I'll take HIS word for it, lol. You shouldn't be down with cursing... I'm not. Interviews are inportant because they show you who they REALLY are. If you don't like that, I'll put my motto on this thread, and I'll remind you that I posted here to post my opinion as well, and that I never once insulted anyone who likes Amy:

"To each their own opinion."

Because it is not I who judges, it is the Judge, I say that you're entitled your opinion. My opinion, believing what Ben Moody himself says, is that he's Christian. I doubt he cursed, again, my opinion.

My opinion is that cursing in music isn't a good thing, which is why secular music is not my favorite. You should be "down" with interviews, lol, I love it when people say that word. It shows real emotions. Interviews tell you who people are; being afraid to see one means you know what's coming. But even if they lie in the interview, it still shows you who they are.

Don't think I'm ranting, 'cause I'm not. I'm actually a bit gigglish today, lol.

wow thank you for your sermon oh holy mr. disciple. i will refrain from "cursing" and try and "get down with interviews"

wow... I didn't expect you to "learn" from it, lol. I was really just tryin' to tell you I had a calm nature about it, and I was lending my opinion... it really is OK for me to do that... lol... but I digress.

yeah sure you're entitled to your opinion, but does anyone really care is the question?

Probably not, lol. Actually, no one really does. I am being serious. But I am allowed to give it, so I do :).

congratulations.

Thank you, lol, even though I know you're being facetious :P

*sigh* it continues...
its also how she's treated ben moody, the former guitarist and founder of the band. he's definately a christian and she kicked him out of the band and has tried to erase his existence. this isnt saying that their music sucks... cuz it doesnt... we're just bashing Amy Lee and her judgement. lol.
Umm... you are in dire need of a clue. Luckily, I always carry a spare. Ben left the band on his own free will. It wasn't Amy trying to get rid of him. They were on tour over in Europe and one day they just woke up and, "Umm... Where is Ben?" After some long thought, Ben decided to just pick up and leave. He didn't like the direction the band was going musically, so he left. For a while, there was some bitterness, but Ben wishes Amy the best.

Yes, Ben and Amy are both Xians. Just because they spill a few cuss words doesn't make them not. We've all done it. We've all cussed before. Just they have a spotlight on them and whenever they do, they are attacked by hardcore Xians who love to throw stones. People need to look in the mirror.

CJ

We've all cussed before. Just they have a spotlight on them and whenever they do, they are attacked by hardcore Xians who love to throw stones. People need to look in the mirror.

CJ

Thank you for saying that CJ.

thanks CJ. i think thats the best post i've read in this thread (i promise, i'm not being sarcastic either).

that was a goof post, even ive cussed, its human nature, jsut DONT use Gods name in vein, thats a no no.

that was a goof post, even ive cussed, its human nature, jsut DONT use Gods name in vein, thats a no no.

Even if someone does use God's name in vain, it can be a messup. Everyone makes mistakes; even big ones.

Yup... true dat. I wish that weren't true, but hey, without mistakes, how would we ever rise up out of the ashes?

hmm... evanescence is pretty kewl. everybbodys fool has a great message. and the music video fits perfectly. i also think amy lee is hot*blushes*

Well I must say they arent the best rolemodels atm ...

Taken from a newsletter my local rock station sent me ....


"Amy Lee's Flash of Embarrassment
Evanescence frontwoman Amy Lee was left flustered during a telephone interview with a journalist, when her bandmates stormed in and dropped their trousers in front of her. The singer was in the middle of a phone call with a Los Angeles Times reporter recently, when her bandmates and Seether frontman boyfriend Shaun Morgan wandered in and exposed themselves in a bid to break her concentration. She says, "It's like being in a college dorm, actually. Every time we have a last show in a city, something happens." "


"We've all cussed before. Just they have a spotlight on them and whenever they do, they are attacked by hardcore Xians who love to throw stones. People need to look in the mirror."

To whom much is given, much is required.

I have cussed. Even recently. I'll admit. But protecting your witness should go above almost everything else.

I do like the music. I don't like the image.

umm the title kinda explains itself-does ne one like Evanescence?
i think they rawk!

not me, tho there are plenty here that do... they have been discussed at length...

yeah i like eveneccence but i don listen to them anymore. did you know that they use to be with a christian lable. iono if that is true or not but one of my friends told me about it.
GOD BLESS
bye

yeah i like eveneccence but i don listen to them anymore. did you know that they use to be with a christian lable. iono if that is true or not but one of my friends told me about it.
GOD BLESS
bye

yea it's true i think

I love their music, but don't like that they're backing down from the Christian scene more and more. Oh well...we don't need anymore wavy bands that say their Christian but then once they get big, they back down...blah.

i agree but i still love them and think they rawk!

Oh Lord, lets not get into this topic again...

CJ

i LOVE evenescance- they rock so hard!!!

i used to think they were THE band. other than skillet. till i did a lot of reasearch on them... and i found out that they are highly non-christian, as they said in an interview, so since i wont listen to anything but christain music....i had to drop them...

Oh dear. Don't we have a locked thread on Evanescence already?

I think Evanescence is extremely talented. I like the -sound- of their music, but all of their lyrics seem to have consistantly depressing themes. I don't listen to them, but I might if they'd lighten up a bit.

just my thoughts...

Oh dear. Don't we have a locked thread on Evanescence already?
actually, it was never locked, just nearly so. and for all you who are wondering, you can check out the previous posts in this thread (i merged the new one with a really old one). but please be warned, this is a pretty heated topic (as you will see if you read back to previous pages) and if it hits you that you really need to respond to one of those other posts, make sure both that it's not one that sparked the near locking of the thread and that you're response to it won't do the same.

remember, play nice. :)

remember, play nice. :)

*Points finget at Mike* INSTIGATOR!!!!! j/k

CJ

remember, play nice.

Aw, that's no fun! :P

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they have a new album? Something called Anywhere But Home?

^^Yeah I saw that at the store. I think its a dvd or something...i'm not sure if they have new music on it or not.
I like Evanescence. I like their style of music and stuff and I love Amy Lee's voice.

Yah, that's their live dvd. It has an unreleased song called Missing on it which has been one of my fav songs for a couple years now.

CJ

Haven't heard yet? (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041211/ap_en_mu/wal_mart_evanescence_10)
Does anyone from ph.org have the cd? And if you do, what do you think?

"While Wal-Mart sets high standards, it would not be possible to eliminate every image, word or topic that an individual might find objectionable," Whitcomb told the newspaper.
They did a pretty good job on Limp Bizkit's CDs... how ironic, seeing how they'd have to be listening pretty hard to hear the language in some of their songs. ::]

Well, Wal Mart, surprisingly is the number one seller of Cd's in the world...

Bullcrap! I was just at wal-mart :P. They had lots of bands with a swear here or there ::].

yeah, that whole bussiness with evanesence and wal-mart is just stupid, why would they do it for this cd?

yeah, that whole bussiness with evanesence and wal-mart is just stupid, why would they do it for this cd?
Because it all started with someone's kid. Isn't that how all problems start nowadays? (I mean, the Pledge suit went down like that, supposedly...)

but why don't they do it with other cd's? i just can't understand it.

but why don't they do it with other cd's? i just can't understand it.
They are suing Wal-Mart, not Evanescence. ::] This just happened to be the CD that they heard, so it was mentioned.

this country is sue happy.

thats the thing, they do it with all of the other cd's. This one was not edited, of its explicit content, and should be taken off the sales. Walmart promises, to keep it out, and they didn't.

this country is sue happy.


So true.....and btw that was our local walmart where the cd was purchased....not that it means anything to you guys but i thought i would just throw that in :P

not the country, moreso the vulturous trial lawyers.

not the country, moreso the vulturous trial lawyers.
No, our society..It seems to be getting stupidier and stupidier. [no offense.] on the account of Evanescence.. I wonder what they are thinking.

but yeah, they should have had some kind of warning, but to sue for it is just stupid.

thats the reason, why they are suing. There was no label, it was false and explicit advertisement.

If a cd has the F-Bomb on it, it needs the E sticker. Evanescence didn't have that sticker on their cd thanks to some less than smart person working on their label and ended up putting it on the shelves. As usual, someone complained and now theres a lawsuit and blah blah blah...

CJ

and rightly so. I wouldn't buy that crock of an album anyways as it is. COnsidering it has the F-bomb, makes that band twice as lame.

and rightly so. I wouldn't buy that crock of an album anyways as it is. COnsidering it has the F-bomb, makes that band twice as lame.
There happen to many Evanescence fans here, so as much you like to bash please try and refrain ::]. Go start a thread in mars hill or something if you want to discuss usage of the F-word.

But anyways, I still say this is all a buncha bullcrap. Like I said, I was just at wal-mart the other day looking at cd's and saw many I know to have a swear word or two or more on them and they were just sittin there purty and ready to be bought.

You know suings are getting crazier and more and more common? It's the mood of the people resulting from our corrupt judicial system. Some years ago some idiots started suing over stupid crap and retarded [shouldn't be] judges gave them the cases and the precedents started building, and since we're in the system of common law precedents just build and build and build and the cases just get more and more common and more and more justitified.

hmm. funny how an Evanescence thread can turn into a rant about the American legal process and the abundance of lawsuits. :-\

i agree with CJ that it was Wind Up's fault for not putting the Parental Advisory sticker on there. it is optional, but people tend to think of it as mandatory. it's stupid that they sued, yes. but it's how things are changed nowadays. if they want the stickers to be mandatory, then they have to go through the courts. the fastest and best way to do that (and get publicity) is to sue.

i don't think it was a horrible thing that pulls American society into the sewer because of this lawsuit. it's more legitimate than dozens of others you hear about every week.

I guess it depends on how they used bad language in their songs. I don't think that just because they use a certain word that they should recieve a warning label. Sure, there are some groups that drop the more F-bombs than a B-29, but if it is something that pops up once or twice in a single song on an album, I don't think it's nessisary for it to have that label put on the album.

I don't know the situation, but it seem that too many times people get a little too upset when they hear certain words in songs that they listen to. I'm not saying that swearing shouldn't go unchecked, but we don't need to throw a fit when they don't put a warning label on any CD that has any badwords starting with the letters A through Z. If you want to have a warning, why not have a rated system. from 1 to 10, 1 being minimal use of mild expletives to 10 being Heavy F-bombers with extremely Explicit Lyrics.

I know that there are people who will disagree with what I said, but I don't think it's nessisary to be slapping the "WARNING: EXPLICIT LANGUAGE" sticker on every album that contains any cursing.

If you want to have a warning, why not have a rated system. from 1 to 10 that wil just make CDs rated 1 look like softies for little kids and make the CDs that want to look like adult stuff do whatever it takes to get rated as 10 --- look at the movie industry for examples.

I agree, but there are some that still flock to a CD because it has an "explicit lyrics" label on it. I'm not saying that every CD should have a content label on it, but if there needs to be a warning, why not tell us how bad it is rather then a generic "explicit lyrics" sticker.

that would be lame to the third degree. Yeah slap on ratings on some albums, but dont on other albums.

a cuss word is a cuss word is a cuss word. It doesn't change how many times you use it, it is still sin. If it has one cuss word, it deserves the explicit content tag, if it has 80 it still deserves the tag.

that wil just make CDs rated 1 look like softies for little kids and make the CDs that want to look like adult stuff do whatever it takes to get rated as 10 --- look at the movie industry for examples.
Well then they're losers who need God. Not any different tha now. I'll just pass over janga's posts as I've grown accustomed to.

are u in agreement with it?

So what is worse, cuss words or someone who insults people and what they enjoy? That's a bit of a double standard.

CJ

CJ gets 234729387 points.

And 2373477234 more!

a cuss word is a cuss word is a cuss word. It doesn't change how many times you use it, it is still sin. If it has one cuss word, it deserves the explicit content tag, if it has 80 it still deserves the tag.

I know your trying to flame, but here's a thought...

If movies were rated that way, 98% of all movies would have to be rated R, even some of the Disney cartoons. it's not only the cussing, it's the violence and the sexual content too, after all, Violence is Violence is Violence... I think there should be a rated system so that you can tell if the album has some mild cussing, or a lot of cussing with explicit lyrics (explicit doesn't just mean using cuss words) rather then a sticker that basically says "this album has cussing on it."

cussing sexual content

u guys shouldn't be talking about this. Forbidden

I would seriousely consider changing your signature, janga...

CJ

why do they even feel the need to put the f-word in their music? do they feel better after they say it or something? what are they trying to prove?

To most people anymore, it's just another word with a lot of uses and meanings. Not always sexual or vulgar.

CJ

After searching thu all the lyrics to the album not one song has a cuss word in it. [maybe I didnt search hard enuf I dont know.] Probably what the parents of this girl didnt like was the fact that Evanescence is [well to me] is promoting 'the world sucks' kinda of attitude. If you would like to disprove me, go right ahead. btw you can find the lyrics right here (http://www.evanescence.com/home.html) I feel like laughing is it ok to do so?

To most people anymore, it's just another word with a lot of uses and meanings. Not always sexual or vulgar.
but it doesn't have any other uses or meanings. :P

After searching thu all the lyrics to the album not one song has a cuss word in it.

They did a cover of a Korn song on the live CD that had the F Bomb in it. That's what we are talking about.

CJ

but it doesn't have any other uses or meanings. :P

Sure it does. It is also used as a general-purpose expletive, as in "go away!" or "none of your business!" or "what a stupid person", or to emphasise, "this is very good" or "this is very bad", – it can even be used within words via tmesis, as in "un-believable" ("incredibly unbelievable")

I'm not trying to change your mind on it. It's just how I grew up so the word has usually no true meaning of anything bad to me.

CJ

but the general meaning still remains.

That's a personal conviction. :P You need to learn the history of the word and it's origional meaning besides our slang term for it if you wanna get technical about it. It came from the german word "fliechen" which means "To Strike". Nothing vulgar about it. :\

Anyway, this is getting off topic and I'm sure the mods would appriciate a change of subject. :>

CJ

They just suck period as a band. I can't stand that nu-metal crap. I don't care what they belive they just suck.

,says Dustin.

that's your opinion, you are entitled to it, just like i'm entitled to the opinion that i don't agree with your opinion. ;)

i like the some of the new metal bands. like linkin park, and some of evanescence's stuff.

i'm just saying they suck its an opinion. I'm just not a fan of the genre music. and over saturated noise gated, compressed, distortion on the guitar where all the soul is lost. once again all opinion thus sayeth dustin

i love the raw distortion those bands use. i wish i could get the tone on my amp.

You know I really hate how some people(no one so far in here) that think Christian music has to be serious and say Jesus or God in very song. Not that it's a bad thing but you can get your point across without saying Jesus. And I think anyone who makes music and loves Jesus can make Christian music no matter what type or genre it is. Like Skillet is very different from Delirious? and Demon Hunter but they all love Jesus and make music to glorify God and they are different but still Christian bands. :)

the distortion is far from raw if you wanna raw sound get a tube anything with a 12" in it and put a rat or jekyll yde inf ront of it and your're there. ProCo Rats are pretty cool.

hmmm...yea, their music is boring ;)

i like evanescance. i like their sound and i think amy lee is very talented on the piano and her vocals are great too. in my opinion, it sounds to me like a lot of their songs were inspired by Christianity but i believe that they have forsaken God in their persuit of fame. I still like their music a lot, just they are a secular band.

I think they suck...not only because they went anti-christian but they are not that good.
What really makes me PO-ed is that they said they were christians and it was a christian band, but once they got popular, they went antijesus and they make fun of his death...and they swear SO MUCH...
if fame can do that to someone, i hope im never famous, to many christian bands are selling out....
it's too bad they aren't christians anymore...but they don't suck....she's got an amazing voice

someone fill me in as why Ben Moody left..

i'm not too sure. i know CJ (TerraSin) would know, but he might be boycotting this thread because of the tensions that always seem to spark out of it. he's got a personal connection to the band so it's a bit touchy for him. if he sees this, he'll for sure respond, but if he doesn't, you could try PMing him.

There were a lot of reasons Ben left. He and Amy have always had this love/hate relationship that was pretty self-destructive. They worked well together, but at the same time they didn't. Compiled with the emotional attatchments they had in the past, it just kinda built up over time.

One night over in Europe, he decided that he didn't like the way the band was going and he picked up and left without telling anyone except their manager, I think. It was all pretty sudden and there was some bad blood for a while. We were all kinda shocked. Heh, details are starting to get a bit fuzzy. It's been a while. :\

CJ

i heard that one member of evanescence is in the band soul embraced................does anyone know if that's true or not?

what do y'all think of this? www.notachristianband.com

I think it is an unofficial website for Evanescence.

"the answer is simple; Evanescence is Not a Christian Band, although in their personal lives they are all Christians."

That about says it right there. :)

CJ

If you search on that website there are some pics of amy and ben, and ben is wearing a tshirt of DEMON HUNTER a Christian band

^umk doesn't mean that makes someone christian. Just because they listen to christian music .Alot of ppl i knew listen to christian bands and werent christians themselves.

i hate the term, "christian band"

um.... well their are christian bands rather you hate it or not. And i see nothing wrong with that.

hey terrasin, i was wondering how you know them. it seems that you know them pretty personally so i was just wondering.

They all can sing really well. Don't know how many people are in the band. Plus, the lyrics are touching.

^umk doesn't mean that makes someone christian. Just because they listen to christian music .Alot of ppl i knew listen to christian bands and werent christians themselves.

A lot of people tend to not realize they're listening to a Christian band, especially when they're not Christians. Just thought I'd add that minor fact :P

i have a secular friend who listens to alot of christian music

I listen to A LOT of Christian music but I'm not Christian...mainly because of my parents...

Aw man, i just got hooked up with their CD Fallen. THESE PEOPLE ROCK!! i love their music. and the guitars, ooh don't get me started. anyone else like their music?

Yeah Wake Me Up, the one with 12 stones is good.

They did a song with 12 stones?

Yeah, they did. I used to be a huge fan of them, but I got tired of them.

i love them~~~ wow there aweosme...words cannot describe...lol...and so is 12 stones!!!!!!! =)

I thought we had another Evanescence thread?
*hopes it got deleted*

Fallen was mostly made up of older songs that were just produced better. It was a good cd, but I still liked a lot of their older stuff from the unreleased cds and Origin. I was really hapy to see they released Missing on the live DVD. That is one of my favorite songs.

I don't give much hope to the new cd. Without Ben writing the music... well, it will be interesting to hear what it sounds like.

CJ

yeah, I don't expect to see much more life out of Evanescence . . .

they kinda disappeared over here in the uk, theyr nothin special anymore

well, maybe they'll make a big comeback.

Thatd be cool if they did a song with Skillet or Pillar. Yeah I know, random coment sorry.

Highly doubtful. They don't really want anything to do with the Christian Music Industry...

CJ

Yeah true.

I saw that one music video that was live, and it was horrid, in my opinion . . . so, I don't know . . . 2 hit wonder? :D

hehe i have to agree there!
I never really liked any of their songs, apart from Bring Me To Life and that was it
But I hate the song now

i like Tourniquet, Haunted, My Last Breath, Taking Over Me, Everybody's Fool, Bring Me to Life, and Going Under. especially since i can play almost all of them on guitar. that always makes them more fun. lol

I almost never listen to their "newer" songs anymore...just lots of instrumentals and demos...and their cover of "Thoughtless" is constantly on.

i love listening to the heavy guitar parts that they have. in their music book, they have like three different guitar parts labeled guitar 1, Guitar 2, and Guitar 3. each part is different. it's kinda wierd

I think they suck...not only because they went anti-christian but they are not that good.
What really makes me PO-ed is that they said they were christians and it was a christian band, but once they got popular, they went antijesus and they make fun of his death...and they swear SO MUCH...
if fame can do that to someone, i hope im never famous, to many christian bands are selling out....
yeah that really sucks, i guess that they werent very strong christians... i mean why even take God's name in vein like that?

when do they swear?? in fallen i haven't heard any swear words.

Skillet is still , though ;D
I haven't heard swearing on their album, but when you hear interviews with them they all swear a lot.

well interviews yeah. but what weird is on their CD under thanks from the band, one of the guitar members say "Jesus, without i'd be nothing" i'm just quoting. it's not exact. but anyways, it is a shame.

yeah that really sucks, i guess that they werent very strong christians... i mean why even take God's name in vein like that?
Yes, because we all know you all are perfect little angels who never do anything wrong. *rolls eyes*

CJ

hmmm the sort of died out. i mean the onece was big everyone was like yeah these guys rock to now you dont hear much about them.

bands, at least those who aren't like Switchfoot, constantly touring, or U2, living legends, tend to fade a bit between that time when their last album is getting old and their new album comes out.

i love evanescence..amy lee has an amazing voice..i really wish they were still christians

first off, that implies that you can lose your salvation, which is up for debate and has been for centuries.

second, nobody every said they'd betrayed Christ, just that they've left the Christian music scene behind, and rather rudely/abruptly at that.

thirdly, their relationship with God isn't so much our concern. unless we are personal friends with them and know their hearts, not what they show on stage, there is no way we can know where they stand.

there, i think that about covers it. :)

first off, that implies that you can lose your salvation, which is up for debate and has been for centuries.

second, nobody every said they'd betrayed Christ, just that they've left the Christian music scene behind, and rather rudely/abruptly at that.

thirdly, their relationship with God isn't so much our concern. unless we are personal friends with them and know their hearts, not what they show on stage, there is no way we can know where they stand.

there, i think that about covers it. :)
umm...ok....

I absolutly love Amy Lee's voice. OMG, if i knew a girl who could sing as good as her (or even close) i'd have my band in no-time. lol. Has anyone else gotten their music book and played the guitar parts?

I think Evanescence sounds way too moany. So many people i know love them, and i dont see why.

really? what do u mean by "moany"?

Hi, i have a question that i can't find an answer to.

Is Evanescence a "Christian" band?

The answer to your question including alot of opinion and such can be found here.

http://panheads.org/boards/showthread.php?t=1022&highlight=evanescence