aliensk8er86
09-30-2003, 04:37 AM
What do you guys think about it? When I find the site I'll post it.

chaotic-land
09-30-2003, 10:37 AM
don't even know what ur talking about man... could be just me tho

skelfy
09-30-2003, 11:48 AM
What is SI? ???

chaotic-land
09-30-2003, 12:21 PM
AHAA! it's not just me! *smiles creepishly cause i don't feel so alone or insane any more*

freak_for_god22
10-01-2003, 03:55 AM
where is the article?

laeveolis
10-01-2003, 06:01 AM
Self-...infliction?
I'd say self-mutilation, but obviously, mutilation doesn't begin with "I"...
Lesse if i can google up anything.

Ok. SI = Self-injury. Cutting is, obviously, the most common form of it, although other things - burning, impact-caused stuff (ie, punching a brick wall as hard as possible), and interference with healing (ie, refusing to let a cut scab over, or some such) - do occur. Often happens along with substance abuse, eating disorders, or mental disorders like obsessive/compulsive. Usually done for the same basic reasons as attempted suicide, but the feelings with S-I are less ... intense, i guess you could say? Emotional pain, obviously, and trying to transform that pain into something more easily dealt with (a physical injury), also self-hatred, self-punishment, and feeling distant or disconnected with one's body. Apperently self-healing, too, because of the care they are able to give to themselves afterwards, with the self-injury not being as important as the self-care.

More general info http://www.thehelpline.net/selfinjury.html there, but it's all sumarized above.

Learn something new every day. :)

aliensk8er86
10-01-2003, 07:47 AM
http://www.psyke.org/and http://www.psyke.org/faqs/

aliensk8er86
10-01-2003, 07:48 AM
What is SI? ???

self injury

freak_for_god22
10-01-2003, 02:29 PM
what do i think? i think that those people are hurting and i can relate to them and all. So i think that those people need to be loved and cared for... so pray for those kind of people cuz when i was there people prayed for me and loved me... So w/o them praying for me and w/o God i wouldnt be where i am today!

aliensk8er86
10-02-2003, 06:40 AM
:-[ *hides in the corner*

freak_for_god22
10-03-2003, 11:36 AM
its the truth. BUt God helped me out!

thalia
10-04-2003, 01:01 AM
It makes me sad to know that there are people out there who are so depressed and so hurt that they would resort to hurting themselves to ease emotional pain. What they really need to take away their pain is the love of Christ. God loves us all and He would never want us to purposely hurt ourselves. He created us (that includes our bodies!) and wants us to follow Him. Just imagine if you created something that you loved so much, then it somehow ruined itself. Wouldn't you be sad? That goes with sin of any kind, not just self injury. Pray that God will come into the lives of those through a friend or a pastor or a family member. Pray that God will show them that He loves them and doesn't want them hurting themselves.

freak_for_god22
10-04-2003, 02:16 AM
See i was a christian and i was hurting and when ur hurting not to be mean but serving God, is very very very hard... its sordof like u dont want to do anything with God.. Ur too hurt and satan puts all of these feelings inside of u..... and it makes u wanna run,.. and then when u do wake up and realize it u wanna run more cuz u feel like a failure...... So i guess when u see a hurting person best advice is to listen to them and let them know u love them and care about them... when ur hurting U need someone physical....... i know God is the one u really Need ..u know what im saying........ ;D

bothan4777
10-06-2003, 04:54 AM
yes... bad is bad is bad, God does not wish any one to suffer through pain, so why should we needlessly suffer through it...

i've struggled with this issue and sure it's great an shiz but really, WHY!?

ask yourself that, if it's for the glory of God (which it IS NOT!) then go 4 it...

also cutting yourself is demonic and that is biblical...
MARK 5:5

10-06-2003, 05:50 AM
Yes. I have to agree with Kyle ^

I struggled with depression for quite some time in the past. I noticed that cutting only puts off suicide....it doesn't really resolve anything. Sure, it may momentarily help you to release pain, or help you see something heal, but there are other means in which you could go by. Besides, you are left with the scars afterwards. What a lovely reminder. :-

inscrutable
10-06-2003, 08:28 AM
It makes me sad to know that there are people out there who are so depressed and so hurt that they would resort to hurting themselves to ease emotional pain. What they really need to take away their pain is the love of Christ. God loves us all and He would never want us to purposely hurt ourselves. He created us (that includes our bodies!) and wants us to follow Him. Just imagine if you created something that you loved so much, then it somehow ruined itself. Wouldn't you be sad? That goes with sin of any kind, not just self injury. Pray that God will come into the lives of those through a friend or a pastor or a family member. Pray that God will show them that He loves them and doesn't want them hurting themselves.

Hmmm, I see what you're saying and I totally agree. However, I am not a depressed person but sometimes I feel like cutting myself for unknown reasons. People who cut are not always depressed. I'm not, but I am temped to do it a lot.
Some people may also just want attention...

aliensk8er86
10-06-2003, 09:14 AM
Yes. I have to agree with Kyle ^

I struggled with depression for quite some time in the past. I noticed that cutting only puts off suicide....it doesn't really resolve anything. Sure, it may momentarily help you to release pain, or help you see something heal, but there are other means in which you could go by. Besides, you are left with the scars afterwards. What a lovely reminder. :-

Will I see the scars as a good thing, like how I got through it. I guess you will never fully understand until you have lived in the hell I live in. The last time I tried not too I punched a piece of brick off the outside wall.

10-06-2003, 12:11 PM
^i've done that. I've been through quite a hell of my own actually. One I would never wish to tell of. I've broken fingers..on purpose. I cut myself today accidentally...and just let it bleed out. I thought a lot about this thread and what it means to cut one's self. Very interesting topic.

bothan4777
10-06-2003, 01:29 PM
blood itself is very interesting... some refer to it as being your soul, as being your very being and if you were to take that and run with it, making yourself bleed on purpose is you spilling your soul out... just something to point out, as i really dont have a point here, yet.

freak_for_god22
10-06-2003, 02:21 PM
once u start cutting ur addicted... i know this,... ive done it for almost 3 1/2 years.. i dont regret doing it at alll. ive learned alot from it and my walk with God is now stronger cuz of it.. the scars can be good and bad.. Goood as in where God took me out.. bad cuz their there.... but Cutting is very addicting.. i struggle with it still... :'( havent done it in a while.. thank God...

10-07-2003, 08:15 AM
once u start cutting ur addicted...

I would have to disagree. I started cutting, and I don't have a problem with it. It's not something that I desire, or want. In fact, when i do feel the urge to cut, it is out of hatred and I chose to deal with it in that manner. Being led by personal conviction, i feel cutting is wrong, and don't do it anymore.

aliensk8er86
10-07-2003, 09:17 AM
^i've done that. I've been through quite a hell of my own actually. One I would never wish to tell of. I've broken fingers..on purpose. I cut myself today accidentally...and just let it bleed out. I thought a lot about this thread and what it means to cut one's self. Very interesting topic.

I got really mad at what my friend did and I punched it because I knew that if I didn't do something then I would hurt her or cut more and I didn't want to. The worst that I did was cut my finger and while I was on the phone I just sat there and watched the blood drip from my hand. I don't want to start again because I know it leads to death, my friend almost died from it but sometimes it just happens :-

10-07-2003, 09:32 AM
hey guys,

yeah i just came over from the rk boards, kat told me about these, anways yes i too am a fellow cutter but have been free of it for 9 FREAKING DAYS!! yeah its been soo hard to get through, last night was hell, anyways yeah idkwhat else to say about myself..

freak_for_god22
10-07-2003, 03:33 PM
i guess i should have made myself more clear.... cutting can be addictive to many people. just like cigs or alocohol.... but for me it was and still can be addicting.... ill write more later...

aliensk8er86
10-08-2003, 07:56 AM
hey guys,

yeah i just came over from the rk boards, kat told me about these, anways yes i too am a fellow cutter but have been free of it for 9 FREAKING DAYS!! yeah its been soo hard to get through, last night was hell, anyways yeah idkwhat else to say about myself..

Emily! ;D :(

rk80sfreak
10-08-2003, 11:23 AM
hey guys,

yeah i just came over from the rk boards, kat told me about these, anways yes i too am a fellow cutter but have been free of it for 9 FREAKING DAYS!! yeah its been soo hard to get through, last night was hell, anyways yeah idkwhat else to say about myself..

Emily! ;D :(


hey kat how r ya

middlearth
10-09-2003, 04:12 AM
I wonder why psychologically it feels good to be in physical pain when you are in emotional pain. I really does feel good to hurt yourself. What causes me to want to hurt myself? It is strange the feeling of satisfaction after you have torn at your skin with your nails or slammed your hands in drawers. I haven't done any of these things in a long time; a combination of my walk with God growing immensely and my will to control myself. But even as a child I would slam my head on the wall when I felt bad inside. Not as a childish tantrum but because it felt good to be in pain. The whole psychology of it boggles me as I said before.

aliensk8er86
10-09-2003, 04:30 AM
hey guys,

yeah i just came over from the rk boards, kat told me about these, anways yes i too am a fellow cutter but have been free of it for 9 FREAKING DAYS!! yeah its been soo hard to get through, last night was hell, anyways yeah idkwhat else to say about myself..

Emily! ;D :(


hey kat how r ya

Okay, and you? ;)

rk80sfreak
10-09-2003, 02:10 PM
hey guys,

yeah i just came over from the rk boards, kat told me about these, anways yes i too am a fellow cutter but have been free of it for 9 FREAKING DAYS!! yeah its been soo hard to get through, last night was hell, anyways yeah idkwhat else to say about myself..

Emily! ;D :(


hey kat how r ya

Okay, and you? ;)


ehh not to great

freak_for_god22
10-09-2003, 03:33 PM
lets get back to the topic... if u know of a friend (best friend) and he/she was doin it what advice would u give them?

aliensk8er86
10-10-2003, 04:41 AM
hey guys,

yeah i just came over from the rk boards, kat told me about these, anways yes i too am a fellow cutter but have been free of it for 9 FREAKING DAYS!! yeah its been soo hard to get through, last night was hell, anyways yeah idkwhat else to say about myself..

Emily! ;D :(


hey kat how r ya

Okay, and you? ;)


ehh not to great

:- why? what happened? you didn't cut again did you? :'(

aliensk8er86
10-10-2003, 04:41 AM
lets get back to the topic... if u know of a friend (best friend) and he/she was doin it what advice would u give them?

um... I would be there for them

rk80sfreak
10-10-2003, 05:27 AM
hey guys,

yeah i just came over from the rk boards, kat told me about these, anways yes i too am a fellow cutter but have been free of it for 9 FREAKING DAYS!! yeah its been soo hard to get through, last night was hell, anyways yeah idkwhat else to say about myself..

Emily! ;D :(


hey kat how r ya

Okay, and you? ;)


ehh not to great

:- why? what happened? you didn't cut again did you? :'(


no of course not.. i'm on freaking day 11 i'm already i n the double digets

aliensk8er86
10-10-2003, 09:43 AM
hey guys,

yeah i just came over from the rk boards, kat told me about these, anways yes i too am a fellow cutter but have been free of it for 9 FREAKING DAYS!! yeah its been soo hard to get through, last night was hell, anyways yeah idkwhat else to say about myself..

Emily! ;D :(


hey kat how r ya

Okay, and you? ;)


ehh not to great

:- why? what happened? you didn't cut again did you? :'(


no of course not.. i'm on freaking day 11 i'm already i n the double digets

:D :-

freak_for_god22
10-10-2003, 09:48 AM
can we go back to the topic.. i asked a ???

lets get back to the topic... if u know of a friend (best friend) and he/she was doin it what advice would u give them?

10-10-2003, 10:06 AM
I wonder why psychologically it feels good to be in physical pain when you are in emotional pain. I really does feel good to hurt yourself. What causes me to want to hurt myself? It is strange the feeling of satisfaction after you have torn at your skin with your nails or slammed your hands in drawers. I haven't done any of these things in a long time; a combination of my walk with God growing immensely and my will to control myself. But even as a child I would slam my head on the wall when I felt bad inside. Not as a childish tantrum but because it felt good to be in pain. The whole psychology of it boggles me as I said before.


I think the reason behind it is because you are letting out the pain that has been bottled up inside. The physical pain doesnt hurt nearly as much as the emotional pain, and when the emotional pain is eased, it feels better.

freak_for_god22
10-10-2003, 10:10 AM
when u cut the emotional pain does really go away it might go away for a sec.. but after uve done it felt guilt.. and i was worried and all. so really its not worth doin it ... but at the time it does seem worth it...

10-11-2003, 08:27 AM
I agree that it isn't worth it. In the end, you're still left to deal with the pain anyhow. That's why now, instead of cutting, I give my problems to God and lean on him or strength when I grow weary.

rk80sfreak
10-11-2003, 02:48 PM
can we go back to the topic.. i asked a ???

lets get back to the topic... if u know of a friend (best friend) and he/she was doin it what advice would u give them?


well it depends if she wants help or not

freak_for_god22
10-11-2003, 03:17 PM
Yeah true so if they did what would u say?

middlearth
10-12-2003, 08:30 AM
It all depends on who the person is. If they are a non-believer you might try to explain that there is a God out there who loves them and disires to be their comfort rather than let them embrace the pain. And that they don't have to do what they are doing. If they are a Christian then remind them of God's love and tell them of your own experiences and how you leaned on God when it got hard instead of SI.

inscrutable
10-12-2003, 08:31 AM
Yeah true so if they did what would u say?

Hmm. I'm sorry but I wouldn't know what to say in such a situation. I would let them know that you are there to support them and that you are praying for them. I would also encourage them to seek help and let them know that you are there to help them too.
Ok, so this isn't exactly cutting but I wanted to ask about scarification. (sp?) Cuz like, scarification is way different from cutting cuz like cutting one usually does it for reasons of like letting out pain and what not but scarification is more like an art, ya know? I mean, I think scars are pretty, especially if they're in such a design but I'm thinking that it's wrong to go "decorate the temple" by scaring. But then again, I'm totally cool with tattoos, so wouldn't that fall under that same okness? What's everyone's thoughts?

freak_for_god22
10-13-2003, 01:54 PM
Yeah.... guys please pray for me cuz right now im struggling really bad... i havent yet since maybe late july... Please pray for me... thanks.....

inscrutable
10-14-2003, 10:18 AM
::praying::

freak_for_god22
10-15-2003, 07:10 AM
Thanks! Doin Beettter.. Alot Betterrr

inscrutable
10-15-2003, 07:42 AM
Ok, so this isn't exactly cutting but I wanted to ask about scarification. (sp?) Cuz like, scarification is way different from cutting cuz like cutting one usually does it for reasons of like letting out pain and what not but scarification is more like an art, ya know? I mean, I think scars are pretty, especially if they're in such a design but I'm thinking that it's wrong to go "decorate the temple" by scaring. But then again, I'm totally cool with tattoos, so wouldn't that fall under that same okness? What's everyone's thoughts?

Thoughts. Please. Confuzzled! Ah! ???

unshakeable15
10-15-2003, 02:07 PM
i personally don't put scarification & tattoos in the same category. a tattoo is a professionally done work of art (yes, it is art) that decorates your body. no matter what design a scar is in, it still seems to me to be a scar. a piece of dead skin tissue over an old wound. that whole imagery behind it makes it less than art to me.

personally, i only agree with some tattoos. but a scar is a scar. there could be a cool story behind it (like the time MorningViolet almost died on a lawn mower ;) ), but it's not art.

inscrutable
10-16-2003, 10:13 AM
Aw suckage...I think it's so pretty...

smitty
10-18-2003, 03:28 PM
well, first off, heylo all. I'm a newb. One of my friends from another site showed me this topic so I figured I'd check it out.

anyway...I too have had my problems with cutting. Its not a pretty thing either, like what was said earlier with the scars. the scars destroy your body, but what about the scars it leaves on the inside? and just of the ones that do/have done it. It leaves scars on the inside of everyone. it goes from say me....too my friends, to their friends friends and then their friends and then, back to you, because you more than likely didn't ever want to hurt your friends, and once you find out that you did, you feel bad...and want to hurt yourself even more. its like a circle though, it never ends until you stop. Its been 7 months since my last time. there's a few reasons why I quit.....and none, deal with God, to be honest


:warning: a little gruesome, I'll try to keep PG to PG13 or so

1: the last time I did it, I should've died or passed out that night....but the blood quit running within 5 minutes...and thats usually impossible on this type of cut(if you want more details, but prolly not, you can email me, message me on AIM at AcidSmitty or ICQ, # 82682948 and I also have MSN)

2: I made a promise to my friends. I do not make promises to my friends that I cannot keep. Past couple of weeks had been tough, but God pulled me through.... though if I had made that promise to myself....I wouldn't have gone 7 months and planning on a whole lot more, no matter what kind of hell I face

I know God is behind all this though....kinda reminds me of the story of Joseph

what should've been done for bad, turned out for good, and I praise God for that

And if any of you all wanna talk, dont be afraid to message me. I know all to well what its like to have no one there, I know all to well to have no shoulders to cry on. (forms of contacts are above)

If you feel alone, tell satan to quit attacking you, tell him you're no longer gonna fall to his level. Christ is by your side, all the time....I'm still learning that, but I know its true

well, peace out and God Bless

aliensk8er86
10-19-2003, 09:18 AM
If you feel alone, tell satan to quit attacking you, tell him you're no longer gonna fall to his level. Christ is by your side, all the time....I'm still learning that, but I know its true

Exactly. Rebuking the demons in the name of Jesus. They shudder at his name and their ears burn at the sound of worship. God is there is strengthen you through EVERYTHING. If you have faith that he'll provide, he will.

I try but what I'm going through is not helping but I'll try.

smitty
10-19-2003, 10:21 AM
I try but what I'm going through is not helping but I'll try.


like I said....if you want to talk, I'll be there for you. And the blade is not the answer. no matter how big your struggles are, no matter how deep your pain. I'll tell you some of mine just so you know, give you an idea. yours might be more, I dont know, but I hope, this helps:

my mom and grandma are both going through cancer. I'm 18, I haven't lost one person close to me yet...though the time is coming short, I can feel it. Within the past 2 weeks i've turned many many friends against me...and I decided it was better for me to go back to being a loner. I dont like it at all, but for now, its better. I need to get mylife back on track, before I go back and put myself in those situations again

God is your strength. He's how I made it through the past 2 weeks. He's protected me throughout my entire life, now that I think about it.If it wasn't for him, I prolly would've offed myself back in 5th grade. I would've missed so much.

everytime that blade pierces your skin, you lose more than you'll ever gain back.

I saw Toby Mac and Kirk Franklin in concert last night, Kirk did a lil preacher...my favorite line was, this was after the alter call:

Kirk: turn around, that is your past. Turn back around, this is your future. You know why the review mirror in the cars are small? Just to take a glance back, and thats why the windshield is soo big, too see where you are going.

I ask you, look at where you've been. Now look at where youre going? Is your future dimmer than that of your past? If so, please, come back, you're going the wrong way

even though, i dont know ya, I love ya, I feel ya


message me or email if you ever feel the need too.

peace out and God Bless

aliensk8er86
10-23-2003, 06:55 AM
thanx smitty :)

rk80sfreak
10-27-2003, 04:22 PM
Yeah true so if they did what would u say?


well alot of ppl r different that way cuse i know wsome ppl that want to stop nd would like to go see counselor bu then i know other ppl who don't trust aanyone and a counselor wowuldn't do any good.. i'd say always love them and b willing to talk, thats what i would want the most, and really be aware of how they are doing dy by day.

bothan4777
10-28-2003, 12:49 PM
as well, just ask garth, she'll tell y'all that cutting is a disgusting practice.

freak_for_god22
10-28-2003, 03:23 PM
i dont think its a disquisting pract... i think that people who do it are hurting and thats the way they cope with things.. yes its a bad way to cope with things...

10-28-2003, 05:39 PM
I agree that it is a way to let out pain. That's why I did it. For that reason, and also out of hatred for myself. However, now, being led out of conviction, I don't do it anymore. I've learned to respect myself as a person, and ive learned that cutting is only temporary. It puts off the thought of suicide for just a little while longer. If in fact, i were to skip the whole cutting part and go straight to the Father, things would end up better. I have to honor God's temple, and refrain from cutting myself. I am still tempted, but view it as sickening now, because this life no longer belongs to me. It belongs to God. I have no right to cut myself. Depression is not from God. Suicidal thoughts are not from God, thus cutting does not glorify God.

freak_for_god22
10-28-2003, 08:33 PM
Yeah u are very true about evertythign u said....

inscrutable
11-02-2003, 12:50 PM
My friend had a couple of Japanese words scarred on her back recently. She sees it as an art form, like tatooing. I must admit, that yes, I think scars are pretty, but I don't want to tell my non-Christian friends, because I don't think God will be seen through such a statement, but I want to be real with them. I worry about how to react when she shows us her scarification stuff and all. :-

kittygirl
11-02-2003, 04:29 PM
This is kind of ironic because I used to cut myself, and once thought about committing suicide through a knife.
I was thinking crazy thoughts too, and didn't really care about what I was doing or who or what I was hurting.
I was going through some hard times then too, and I made a new friend the day before I was going to stab myself, and he has been helping me, even though he doesn't know that he does, not about what I tried to do.
It's not the best thing for you, your mind or your body.

dan
11-11-2003, 09:42 AM
man, this is definately a major issue. When you cut yourself, you're trying to rid your pain yourself, heh, which doesn't really work. It just covers the pain somewhat. The Bible says in 1 peter 5:7 (NLT) "Give all your worries and cares to God, for he cares about what happens to you." Because we, as believers, have a personal relationship with God, we can bring all our cares and worries to Him, instead of trying to handle it on our own, such as cutting ourselves.

freak_for_god22
11-25-2003, 11:36 PM
Thats very true dan everything u said... also u need to have faith and believe and trust in God.. And also U Urself Needs to say u dont have the desire to do it anymore.....

smitty
11-27-2003, 11:25 AM
yeah, I agree, no desire to do it. Once you have that thought and desire its so much easier to go off and do it. its an emotional struggle as well as a spiritual struggle. I just pray your emotions are stronger than what they were before. You can quit, ask Him to help you. If a lot of the crap that I'm going through this month, happened last year...I would've done did it by now...but all I can do is smile. Its worth it at the end

freak_for_god22
11-28-2003, 09:01 AM
True its worth to not do it and wait for Gods help...