I was wondering what is everyone's opinion on Wicca or any New Age religion to be exact. If any of you guys reconize this name then you know I struggle with this day in and day out. I need help in this area, and I know it is a long battle in getting out, I am finding that out. I hope that I will get out of this So please tell me your opinions on this subject. Thanks.

“I struggle with this day in and day out”

Hey bro, have you gone through any deliverance ministry, like to specifically break any connections and renounce the involvement you had in that? If not, I’m sure that would help.
Turn your focus, to the person of the Lord so that you may know Him as your Loving Father and to desire His will above your own. Ask the Lord to help you feel secure in His Loving authority over your life, and to remove your desire for having that control.
I pray that you will overcome.

*heh heh* [oober sticky topic here]

well well well, the wicca and or new age ummm religon is, in short: not from God. In long: i'm not the one to say, seeing as how i'm rather uneducated in the pure details of such and since the topic you're bringing up is rather broad, i cant specifially research and bring a helpful conclusion to you. now if you're talking about astro projections or witchcraft or even something as simple as meditaion, its extremely hard to say, so if you'd please clarify, i'd be much apreciated and could help you better..

I believe that the Lord loves us all and wants us all to follow Him. The way that Wicca has been explained to me by Wiccans, is that it is a worship of nature, of the earth (broadly). God wants us to worship Him, not His creations. Yes, we are to be amazed by His works, but we only worship Him. I believe that if you pray and truly seek to know the Lord, He will help you through your tough times. Even the strongest Christians face certain struggles of their own. Just know that God loves you and desires for a personal relationship with you. Seek out other Christians, church workers, who will help you. Have people pray for you and pray that God will show you the one true way to Him: through Jesus Christ, His son.

Just remember that God knows everything, everything you are facing. He is all powerfull, He has complete power over all of His creation. He is ever present. He is with you always.
You will go thru some tough trials but God will take care of you. There may be times you question that but just remember God is faithfull. He is more faithfull than anything or anyone.

OK I will explain what I mean by "New Age Religions" it is a whole brand of religions that are saying that they are practicing "Pre-Christian Paganism". So if you know anything about Paganism in the OT than you basically summed up the "New Age Movement". One reason I stuggle with it so much id for two reasons, 1. The Power, I know you get power from worshiping God, but this power is in your own control. 2. Acceptaince, the whole time before I started with Wicca I was never really accepted. I was the person who was in the corner by himself. I went to a Christian day school, and never really got accepted, but I started Wicca I was suddenly accepted. I am not trying to get any one in this. I am praying that through this I am not acting like an catalitze to Wicca. Please pray for me also as I battle this. I cannot do this alone. I need your constent support. God Bless

Hunter

My personal view on this subject is that Wicca is a good thing. I personally have been a Wiccan for about 3 years, and I find no fault in it at all.

Yes, YOU might not find any fault in it, but God does. He loves you so much, His creation, and He wants you to follow Him. The Bible clearly states in 1 Samuel that witchcraft is a sin. Yes, Wicca may seem appealing because of acceptance. But Christ wasn't accepted, either. The rulers of the land feared Him and wanted Him dead! And they did just that, they killed Him! But He rose three days later! He died so that we, as Christians, can share eternity with Him. I know it is hard when you feel lost, alone, or left-out. I felt that very same way throughout middle school and much of high school. Many of my friends who had been strong Christians turned to Wicca because they couldn't face the struggle any longer. But I kept my faith, though I doubted sometimes, and now I am a strong Christian and I don't have the same struggles I once faced. Christianity is not the "easy" way out, as other things may be. It is a struggle, and until a Christian is completely right with God, then it will be an even more difficult struggle. But I don't mean to discourage anyone who is struggling as a Christian. I only mean to say this: once we commit our lives to Christ (that means everything!), He will give us peace and assurance through the storm! It is worth the fight! I would much rather climb the steep road to victory than sit by the wayside in defeat. God loves everyone, Christian and non-Christian alike. But He still asks that we follow Him. I am sure of my eternity. I ask that question of you.

I wll pray for so you can beat the struggle.

before I got saved, I was wiccan, too. and from your description of 'new age' as you define it sounds exactly like my life before I got saved. so I can hopefully give some insight into this. I realized after some thought (after my salvation) that everything involved in wicca is directly from satan. proof #1: inconsistency. when i 'practiced' wicca, one day i would believe in the gods of earth, wind, water, and fire. the next i would believe in what i called the 'christian god,' but i thought he was sadistic so i liked satan. sometimes i was an atheist. it was inconsistent just in myself, and it sounds like the same for you. proof #2: power. you said yourself that there's power in wicca. that's true and i've witnessed it. consider this: even within wicca, there are inconsistencies in beliefs about what gods there are (the gods who would be the ones giving powers) how can all these different power sources be real? because they are all the same power source: satan. furthermore, there is also power in Christianity and prayer to God. no wiccan can explain why if their gods are the real ones, why we who pray to a different God and who denounce and abolish their 'real' gods receive power. it makes no sense if wiccan gods are the truth. but it makes perfect sense if our God is the one true God: we believe in the devil, who has power to do things in this world and thus works 'magic' when people pray to wiccan gods. why would satan answer prayers not said to him? because all he wants is to stop as many as he can from entering heaven.
once i realized all this, that wicca is purely from satan, i realized that it was fake and i didn't want to do it any more. it helped me to remember that any power i would get from practicing wicca was really from satan and i was just praying to him.

I don't agree with the last post at all. I support you brokenupperhand in your Wiccan ways. GO FOR IT! I know this is a Christian MB. I was a Christian before I became a Wiccan, and I am having the time of my life since I've become a Wiccan. I love the fact that there are really no moral codes, unlike Christianity where you've got the 10 Commandments. Only thing you really are forbidden to do is use you magickal powers to hurt or harm people. As demonstrated in our Rede. "An' harm ye none, do as thou wilt." and the Three Fold law, "Three good and three bad."

i will admit from the begining of my post that i am biased towards Christianity. so, i know that anything i say Wicca, will be taken with a grain (or a cup) of salt. but i still need to say it.

it is true that the Bible is full of laws. but it's even more true that Jesus freed us from those laws. from your post, it appears to me that what turned you off of Christianity was all the rules. Christ was here to set us free from the law, not to further enslave us. i know you don't believe that, otherwise you would still follow God.

i understand that you've been dissed by Christians/Christianity, & i can understand why you've gone over to wicca. but, this being a Christian board & brokenupperhand having come here for support in his turning from wicca, i don't appreciate you trying to pull him back. he has made a decision to turn away from what you call truth & to seek out what is the Truth above all.

the reason i say that he is seeking after the Truth above is because wicca is really a kind of "religion in a box". all you get are guidelines to follow & you go from there; you it said yourself (not in so many words). how can something be truth that is different from one person to the next? i always thot truth meant it is always true. what you are describing is an opinion, a point of view, something that changes from person-to-person. what we Christians follow is not strict in the laws, but it is also already laid out for us. we don't have to do any of the work. it's all been done. THAT is what true Christianity is: God doing all the work, we get the benefits of His labors.

It is foolish to want lawlessness! God sent his law to convict us, to show us that we alone are not good enough to get into his heaven! He sent his son, Jesus, not so that we can freed from the law, but that we can be made holy, through his attoning sacrafice on the cross, so that we can recieve his amazing grace! To me, it seems like you couldn't handle the convictions of the spirit, so you denied him and searched for a lawless occultic religeon, where you can sin all you want as long as you don't "harm" someone.

Brokenupperhand, It sucks that Christians haven't accepted you the way God wants them to, like the way he has accepted them(no one can really accept you the way God does, but they should be showwing that love/acceptance). as an evangelist and friend of mine has said, "You know the Gangster saying'Don't hate the playas, hate the game,' well it's the opposite with Christianity, don't hate the game (Christianity), hate the playas (Christians have wrongly offended you)." Basically, Don't be hate Christianity because of Christians' actions, hypocrocy, and other issues (although our actions should be for God's Glory and Love), because they are still only human. Learn to love God, because he is the one that Christianity is about.

I don't see why, ne one would want to go into wicca. OK I know the whole power and acceptance thing is there. But about the power thing. There is more power in the Name of Jesus than there is in ne spell that can be conjured up, I mean please.

The One creator God is above all created things. He has no ending, why fight the one that really loves us.

God knows the choices we are going to make, but to make the choices, is still up to us

We're not 'free' from the law per se. We're free from its bondage of sin and death.
We are no longer 'under law' but that doesn't mean we don't have to follow them. I know none of u meant that we could disobey them but I'm just saying.

Most Christians who haven't struggled with a particular thing (in this case Wicca) I doubt are really gonna be able to understand it. I haven't had any contact with Wicca before but I understand that its hard to beat something.
Sin is sin no matter what sin it is. It's ALL addictive, ALL pleasurable and ALL destroying.

Alot of Christians forget this. They go "oh Wicca's withcraft its evil we mustn't be around anyone involved in it whether they're a Christian or not"

My response to this - Get a life u filthy hypocrite, ppl trapped in it need your help, prayer and encouragement not your condemnation!

If I've ever shown condemnation to some1 trapped in any form of sin I repent of it now. I ask God's forgiveness now for any mistreatment I've shown to another Christian because of their struggles.

Ok I know this isn't the place for that but hey... sue me. Lol

If that's directed at me, I'm GONNA SLAP YOU SILLY! ;D

I don't think it can be directed at me...?

There is 1 reason why ppl sstruggle with sin: SELF

I think rather chop at the root, than going after the branches. Sometimes, branches need to be chopped off, I agree. But our goal should be to fullfill the call

"It is not me who is living, but Christ in me"

This is more a promise. That Jesus Christ has become our life.

Was what directed at who? My post? No wasn't directed at ne1. Just at standard Christian ways. I don't like standard ways much. They're normally pretty messed up

Just kiddin.

*Slaps Xon round head with a big stick*

Heeey heaaaaaeey, that hurts. The mods are gonna get you...

What's that on the stick? AAArrrgghh, it's squirrel!

okay: you stated earlier that you were drawn towards the newage religon because of the control of the power you have...


when you are in tune with the Spirit, you have TONS of power, and power MUCH MUCH stronger than anything a false god could give you. and this power you have control over... it's not our religon or our God that's weak, it's your relationship with Him that is and it's your lack of faith that's puting a cap on your capabilities.

i pray for you that you'll know the truth stronger and that you also can stand up under the Evil one.

Hello. Okay, I read some of the posts on this topic and I get what you're getting at. If you know what I mean. :)

I just wanted to add I also used to practice a bit of "magic" and [let's just call Wicca & New Age what it is] witchcraft. I was pretty into it. At the age of 11 or 12 I was reading encantations, reading cards & palms... etc...

I was on a power trip and I liked it... You see most of the attraction to witchcraft comes from the power you feel when you're performing spells and seeing things happen. I don't have to tell you. I'm sure you know first hand. Something you may not realize is that though it seems you are in control you aren't, and the power isn't yours once you give it up to false gods.

For me that realization came just in time... you see Satan isn't satisfied until he's got all of you. It's not just about your soul, it's also about your life. He wants you to live through hell on earth and then die and spend forever in hell too. I began feeling so powerful and ended up almost losing my mind, really losing my mind. I would imagine situations that weren't real and began to have difficulty distinguishing between the two. Thanks to God, I regained my sanity and so much more. God has changed my life in a very real way. Since I gave my life to God five years ago, I feel so full of life and I rejoice in the moments I share with Him and in how He uses me to reach others.

Think about it. What's the difference between praying to God and praying to Satan? You are still handing over all you have to somebody and placing faith in them; the difference lies in the fact that God actually gives you only what will benifit you, while Satan indulges you (for a short while) so he can destroy your life and own your soul. Our spirit thirsts for God and if you think about it even our flesh cries out for Him... in our fleshly knowledge we reason to get the bigger bang for our buck, right?

;D Well, I can assure you that God is the better deal.


P.S. - Wicca and New Age may have been in practice before "Christianity" since Christ came to the earth later, but last time I checked God's people started with Adam & Eve (the first man & woman) so let's see ... Was that before the pagans began their rebellious ways... hmmm .... yeah.

Ironically enough they also have ceremonies that are developed around the ways in which Jewish/Christians services are preformed... it's basically a Jewish or Christian service with atrocities added to it as an insult to our God. (As in they drink real blood ... etc ... this is usually seen only by those in higher positions within the group. They can't even come up with their own way to worship... In the words of John Cooper "You say that God is dead, but you're rippin' me off."

Do any of you people know at real power is? What it is like to be in control of that power? I don't think so. Otherwise you wouldn't see the need to critize it at all. I will leave the choice up to brokenupperhand.

Blessed Be

"GET AWAY FROM ME SATAN!!!" WICCA LEAVE ME ALONE!! STOP INFLUENCING ME IN A WAY I DON'T WANT TO GO!!! LEAVE NOW, AND NEVER RETURN!!! YOU ARE UNWANTED HERE!!! NOW LEAVE!!!

This thread took an unexpected turn when Wicca joined the conversation, but my hope is now that we can get it back on track. I think I made a mistake when I created this thread. Pray for me

I think I made a mistake when I created this thread. Pray for me


even tho the conversation has taken a turn for the worse, i would not say that it was a mistake to start this thread. you wanted encouragement & advice & ideas on a topic. you got them. granted, you got them from both sides, but what's so awesome is that you can now count how many people have stood up for you & for God. :) go back & count.

& don't even trip. i'm certain many (if not all) of the Christians who've read this thread are praying for ya. ;)

There is a temptation of power to any form of witchcraft, including Wicca. But God is ALL-POWERFUL!!! I cannot use God, but I am more than willing to be under his command and be a tool of his will than to use any form of magic to get my will done.

Broken..., It is obvious what path you have choosen (or else you would have gone elsewhere for answers), and that is going towards God. Leave the wicca, the magic, the new-age junk, and anything else that has been an issue before behind you. Let God be your goal, run towards him and run away from that evil. But I will let you know this, the path towards God is rough and narrow, so it isn't going to be easy. Just perserver, ask for prayer, and ask God for strenght and determination.

"Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." 1 Cor. 1:3

Posted by: Wicca Posted on: Today at 07:52:54pm
Do any of you people know at real power is? What it is like to be in control of that power? I don't think so. Otherwise you wouldn't see the need to critize it at all. I will leave the choice up to brokenupperhand.

First: You are never in control of that power,they only obey till they have your soul. Will you be happy: No, Why? Cause you weren't designed to practice witchcraft. What will happen: You will grow old prematurely.

WHAT? Yes, those who practice witchcraft grows old prematurely. Simply because we weren't designed to practice witchcraft and second because the demons don't look after the body of the person, cause they couldn't care less.

Will there be judgement for those who practice witchcraft: YES
Even if they don't believe in God? YES, cause reality stays reality, even if you believe differently.
Is there hope: YES. Jesus Christ
Why: He died for all sin and rose again back to life.

I completely agree with Xon, and although I konw its been said thousands of times, you have to remeber Wicca and new-age "religions" are cults, something which the Bible specifically prohibits, because God knows the disaterous toll it can take on our lives. And, as the saying goes, "Father knows best" I admit, Wicca is very attractive, since a humans insticnt is to lust for power, but in reality Wicca has none to offer. Only through the power of Jesus of Christ can we find what we need and want.

Do any of you people know at real power is?

Yes. I do. That power is the Holy Spirit and it lives inside of me. FAR greater than any other power in existence. If only christians knew the power within them....if only they had faith. You cannot tell me that I do not know what true power is. It is YOU my friend that do not know what true power is. You are led to believe that you are powerful, but in the end, it will get the best of you, and you will be stuck in bondage. You are either for God or against him. I sure would not want to be in the position of being against God.

Do any of you people know at real power is? What it is like to be in control of that power? I don't think so. Otherwise you wouldn't see the need to critize it at all. I will leave the choice up to brokenupperhand.

Blessed Be


Do you remember Hansel and Grettle? How the witch lured them into danger with her yummy gingerbread house? Well, lets take that story. Picture the devil as the witch and the gingerbread house as wicca. Is it attractive? It sure is. Does it taste good? Of course. But is what happens afterwards--the witch taking you and locking you in a cage to devour you later--really worth that piece of candy? Of course not. This sounds like your situation, wicca. The bible is God's word to us. And in the bible it says that satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. It also says that he's the great deciever. So he can take something as harmful as witchcraft and New Age-ism and make it seem oh so attractive. The power you have is nothing compared to the power of an all knowing, all powerful, all present God. God is unshakeable, he knows your every thought, he merely spoke and the oceans came into existence. You can't get much more powerful than that. But what really blows me away is that he has the power to love me, and you, and everyone else who's ever rejected him and scarred his name. That's right. I can't say that I could love someone who hated me. But despite the fact that the world has rebelled against him, he still loves you. Wicca, you may be having the time of your life, but sin is pleasurable only for a season. The devil is going to collect his due sooner or later. It's probably best to get out of that and into God's love as quick as possible. Get ahold of a bible and Read the book of John. See how much God really loves you. Come back if you have any questions.
Brokenupperhand, I'm really proud of you. The bible says that those who seek God will find him, and that if you have the faith the size of a mustard seed you'll be able to move mountians. I pray that your faith is increased so that you know with all your heart that God is real, and there's no power greater than the power of Him who loves you.

yip.

Ok I am sorry, I have been stumbling for a long time with Wicca before I came to here. I am in need of your prayers. That is all I ask for is that you pray for me.

Anthony

hey, i'm really sorry ur struggling with this, my aunt is wiccan and it hurts to have someone that close to u being led astray like that, i'll definetly be praying for you

hey wicca, i know real power because it rules my life, i live beside it everyday, i dwell in it and it dwells in me, the power is God, and God is the most powerful thing i've found, or that i'll ever find, that's what i call true power

Go, alorian! :) I'll pray for your aunt. Anthony, I'm praying for you as well.

when i was in high school, my best friend at the time was thinking about giving wicca a try. she asked me to try it with her. i didn't know what to believe at the time (i was raised mormon, but my mom had started taking the family to a baptist church, which i didn't like), so i went along with her. at first, i though it was really awesome. i mean, i had these powers to use. . . and i could really do stuff with them! but after a while i started feeling empty again. :-
all i have to say about wicca is that, yeah, it's all fun and stuff and you feel all big and powerful and everything when you start, but it quickly goes downhill. Praise God that He released me from it!! ;D for those of you who struggle with this form of evil, i pray that you will be able to find a complete release from it soon!!

Satan has power and he can use it to decieve people into believing that they have power. When you start believing that the power is your own, you worship yourself and not God.

Brokenupperhand, I pray that the Holy Spirit will come into your life and fill you with a power of Jesus Christ and that you would feel love and acceptance from other Christians and from your loving Savior. I'm praying for you.

Anthony (brokenupperhand dude), i am praying for you right now. I know you need delieverance from it, and it's going to come.

To Wicca and everyone else who practices it, you're missing out alot. The Bible says that Satan makes a counterfeit of what God has for us. The joy that you're feeling and everything else is not the real thing. If you want power, become a Christian and get filled with the Holy Spirit. With the Holy Spirit, you have the power to heal the sick and lame, make the blind see, deaf hear, raise the dead (everything Jesus did and more), all in the name of Jesus. Why waste your time dabbling in wicca and witchcraft and everything else? You talk about power? You haven't seen nothing. God is the real power. I'm going to tell you what the apostle Peter told the people in Acts 2 (MESSAGE), "Change your life. Turn to God and be baptised, each of you, in the name of Jesus Christ, so your sins are forgiven. Recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit...Get out while you can; get out of this sick and stupid culture!"

And once again, Anthony, that's what you must do too. Allow the power of God to change you.

God bless,
~Dan

Amen. That was a really good post Dan ;D

I think it can be still ok make friends with one.

I think it can be still ok make friends with one.


true, how else are we supposed to share them God's love except by being their friend? but you need to be careful not to get dragged down with them. the Bible tells us not to be unequally yolked. a strong ox yolked with a weak ox will injure (or kill) them both. most people talk about being married when they talk about equally yolked, but it also fits with friendships (just a little more loosely). just be on guard.

I think it can be still ok make friends with one.


true, how else are we supposed to share them God's love except by being their friend? but you need to be careful not to get dragged down with them. the Bible tells us not to be unequally yolked. a strong ox yolked with a weak ox will injure (or kill) them both. most people talk about being married when they talk about equally yolked, but it also fits with friendships (just a little more loosely). just be on guard.
Ok I know I will still be a Christian ;D.

Hello All,

I am no longer tempted my this religion. I have found that I can no longer be friends with my former-friends whom are Wiccans still. all they did was pull me back down. It has been a long-hard road, and I think I am at the end of it. Now that I look back on that stuff, I realise that it was all satanic no matter how much anyone says it isn't. I will not go back to that stuff. It ruined my life. My parents hated me for it, my christian friends almost gave up on me, I never really got confortable in it either. I have found that I have more comfort in the LORD than I have anywhere else. Thank you for all your prayers and support with this.

Anthony

YOU STUPID IDIOT!!! HOW COULD YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON THE GODDESS!?! I MEAN SHE BLESSED YOU SO WELL, AND NOW YOU GIVE UP?!? YOU ARE STUPID! I HOPE THE GODDESS CURSES YOU FOR THIS UNWISE DECISION IN YOUR LIFE!! I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU WILL TURN BACK TO THE GODDESS.

Blesses Be

YOU STUPID IDIOT!!! HOW COULD YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON THE GODDESS!?! I MEAN SHE BLESSED YOU SO WELL, AND NOW YOU GIVE UP?!? YOU ARE STUPID! I HOPE THE GODDESS CURSES YOU FOR THIS UNWISE DECISION IN YOUR LIFE!! I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU WILL TURN BACK TO THE GODDESS.

Blesses Be
Hi. Hello. Uhm... back off. Thanks.




You're doing the right thing, Anthony. Don't let anyone make you believe otherwise. We're all praying for you.

Why would he want to go back when you yell (typing in all caps is the equivilant to yelling online) "You are a stupid Idiot and I hope you get cursed"? He has found security in a God he can trust, a God that Loves him. in fact, he loves him to the point of coming down as man and dying to pay for his sins so that he can be with him in heaven!

Anthony, It's great to know about your success, in Christ's strength, against this false god(dess). Continue to Fight the good fight of the faith! (1 Tim. 6:12 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&passage=1+Tim.+6%3A12&versi on=NIV)) Never let your guard down against satan, he knows he has already lost and cannot take you out of the LORD's grasp. Satan's only option left is to make sure that you will not be used, so continue to fight on the side of the LORD and you will truely be blessed with unfailing prizes.

YOU STUPID IDIOT!!! HOW COULD YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON THE GODDESS!?! I MEAN SHE BLESSED YOU SO WELL, AND NOW YOU GIVE UP?!? YOU ARE STUPID! I HOPE THE GODDESS CURSES YOU FOR THIS UNWISE DECISION IN YOUR LIFE!! I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU WILL TURN BACK TO THE GODDESS.

Blesses Be


I rebuke you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Your false "goddess" has no power here.

Anthony has proven he's willing to be strong...willing to turn away from the temptation of Wicca and find his true strength, his "power" if you will, by giving his life over to God.

Stay strong Anthony. Put on your armor. Keep the sword of the spirit close at hand and deeply rooted in your heart. God is our refuge in our times of trouble. An unfailing defender worthy of our complete trust.


Abba, Daddy, Father - You rock my face off.

Just as was said much earlier in this thread when satan (in this case a false goddess) feels you turning to God then he will turn his back on you. That is something that God will never do. He opens his arms up and loves you with a Godly love that is too great for us to truely comprehend. And a power that is above all others. Were praying for you Anthony. God Bless.

YOU STUPID IDIOT!!! HOW COULD YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON THE GODDESS!?! I MEAN SHE BLESSED YOU SO WELL, AND NOW YOU GIVE UP?!? YOU ARE STUPID! I HOPE THE GODDESS CURSES YOU FOR THIS UNWISE DECISION IN YOUR LIFE!! I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU WILL TURN BACK TO THE GODDESS.

Blesses Be


Hmmm let me think now.... Which is going to have the better effect on someone, showing someone love and a Christ-like attitude and a genuine desire for their best interests. A God who loves us totally and unconditionally and will be faithful toward us despite ANYTHING we do

or

Insults, threats and curses.... a 'goddess' who curses ppl for turning away


Need I say more? I think not..

Well I know there's some Wiccan connections with The Christmas tree.

1st century Pagan druids left gifts under pine trees to the nature spirits. Then they sacrificed a turkey and celebrated and exchanged gifts amongst themselves.


HANG ON!!! Tht's almost EXACTLY like our Christmas today!!!!


coincidence? I think not... Merely the result of trying to Christianize an anti-Christian event...

Well I have seen that movie The Craft before and I think it show's how Pagens can be bad at times.

Hello All,

I am no longer tempted my this religion. I have found that I can no longer be friends with my former-friends whom are Wiccans still. all they did was pull me back down. It has been a long-hard road, and I think I am at the end of it. Now that I look back on that stuff, I realise that it was all satanic no matter how much anyone says it isn't. I will not go back to that stuff. It ruined my life. My parents hated me for it, my christian friends almost gave up on me, I never really got confortable in it either. I have found that I have more comfort in the LORD than I have anywhere else. Thank you for all your prayers and support with this.

Anthony

:D I'm so happy for you! Praise God!

Anthony, i know this has already been said by the others here, but you have done the best thing you could ever do. :) i praise God for what He's done (& continues to do) in your life. you (& all of us) are breathing, walking miracles. :D He is so good to all of us.

Thank you Father for what you've done in the life of our brother Anthony. you've set him free from satan's grasp & helped him to conquer his weaknesses. satan no longer has those strongholds in his life & that is the most incredibly thing. all praise & honor belong to You. o/

Thank you all for praying for me and everything. I must make a confession though. The person that posts under Wicca is actually one of my former friends who as you may tell is a Wiccan. I went out with her in October. It was then that she got this URL for the boards. I went on the site while over at her house, and that is how she got here. I personally wish she wouldn't of ever got on the boards. So I say again Breanne leave me alone and please stop posting on here. You will never get me back, and I will never be a Wiccan again so leave me alone. Stop following me between classes and everything. I don't like you anymore, now please leave me alone to grow in my faith in Christ.

I'm glad to hear u broke out of it. Don't worry about Wicca, you can't control her actions if she comes on, she comes on. Not much can be done about it.

The person that posts under Wicca is actually one of my former friends who as you may tell is a Wiccan.

I wud never have guessed? lol

A friend of mine has begun studying Wicca. We live in the same state and attend the same online schooling program, thats how I know her. I've gotten in debates/disscussions that last for several hours. I will finally prove a point to her but she will evade acknowledging it and run off on some other subject concerning Wicca. I have shown her countless times how Wicca CANNOT work, but she is refusing to listen to me. I suppose all I'm really asking for is prayer, but I thought I would post here in case anyone had some advice. I would really appreciate it.

Man, that stuff is seriously such a stronghold. People just can't let go of it because Satan makes them think that they will actually be blessed by it, but when you mention God's blessings, which are much greater and MUCH more evident, they hiss and snarl (figuritively speaking). Praise God for His grace.

they hiss and snarl (figuritively speaking).

I've heard of ppl doing that ^ for real!

Yeah, totally. I've got a lot of missionary friends that have seen this. :afro:

okies dokie my friends, *sigh* once again my sister is getting into wicca.

okies dokie my friends, *sigh* once again my sister is getting into wicca.
I'll pray for her. I'll post my story...

YOU STUPID IDIOT!!! HOW COULD YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON THE GODDESS!?! I MEAN SHE BLESSED YOU SO WELL, AND NOW YOU GIVE UP?!? YOU ARE STUPID! I HOPE THE GODDESS CURSES YOU FOR THIS UNWISE DECISION IN YOUR LIFE!! I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU WILL TURN BACK TO THE GODDESS.

Blesses Be
Yeah, I know she's your friend, Anthony... no wiccan in their right mind would come here, lol.

That's a stupid thing for her to do. Comparison:

"I hope you can return to Christ and find forgiveness in Him. I will pray for you."

OR

"CURSE YOU AND ALL THAT YOU STAND FOR!!!!! I HOPE THE GODDESS CURSES YOUR SOUL!!!!"

I know that's not exact wordin, but yeah. You get the point.

Wow, these guys are starting to scare me. They claim to be searching for inner peace... and half of them snap at you when you mention Hell. Some "inner peace." That's just another word for "satisfaction," of the worldly type. They don't beleive in Heaven, Hell, a God, or anything, really. I'm just curious if anyone has ever encountered them (or even one), and how you guys think I should deal with them. Quoting Scripture hasn't worked, and I'm suddenly out of ideas. Maybe this is a way of God telling me to leave them alone... but when something clicks, I'll know.

one thing i've learned is not to go up to people with the intention of shoving the bible down their throats. a lot of times quoting scriptures is a quick turn off. they either don't understand it or just want nothing to do with it (they don't care).

the best way is to be sensitive to the Spirit of God. If He opens a door/opportunity for you to be-friend/talk to a wiccan then do so and He will put the words in your mouth to speak. otherwise, let them see a difference in you.

they are searching for peace. so let them see the Prince of Peace in you and your lifestyle.

Quoting Scripture is a definitely turn-off for Wiccans. Being all-over "preachy" (I know I'm making a generalization) really doesn't help either. Stick to what Tracy said.

i thought there was already a thread about this, but i guess i was wrong...

I can sympathize, my aunt's turned to Wicca, and my second cousin, dad's cousin, that is, is sort of into it to, it really sucks, and i've tried to talk scripture with them, but for the most part won't listen. I agree^, just wait for God to open up some sort of oppurtunity, and let your actions show the peace you receive from your King.

First off, thanks all.

It's not so much that I approached them. One of my former friends was completely out of it, and so I told him that I thought what he was doing was wrong. So, he used my own principles against me. "You're a Christian, you're not supposed to judge." He told me he was becoming Wiccan, and the first thing that clicked was "There's still time." I tried to reason with him, quoting Scripture and telling him what happens after death. "There is no Hell, there is no Devil," was his response. I realize now that I was too quick, thinking I could change him, when I should have prayed right then and there what God wanted me to say. I've been preparing for this, my first confrontation on my beliefs, and I failed. Yes, this was the first time anyone criticized my faith. It's weird how it feels, but hopefully I will trust God enough to lead me through this.

At least they sound like true wiccans for a change instead of the whole highschool fad fake wiccans who are like "OMGooses, i r cast level 12 lightning bewlt on u! Ph33r me i r ev1l!" that really erks me. :\

CJ

The college I go to has its own pagan club. I joined at the beginning of the semester so I could learn more about their beliefs. I find that wiccans (as well as just about everybody) do not like to have their belief directly questioned. I think the best thing for you to do is to continue to live in Christ's footsteps. Throughout the years I have noticed that the greatest witnessing tool is simply living a Godly life, which will make others notice the peace and love that you feel. They will then come to you. I agree with the others in that ramming the bible usually only pushes people farther away. Live for God and He will bring them to you.

CJ that sounds more like an AD&D player than a Wiccan, lol.

I've never encountered a Wiccan before, so I don't know how much I can help, but something I find helpful when speaking to people isn't telling them the truth directly as that usually creates a nasty reaction.
You don't drop a lobster into boiling water, it'll jump out. You put him in cool water then slowly raise the temperature.

What I'm saying is, don't jump right in. Ask them about their beliefs, what they know of it, and make them think about it, and try to help them think it all through. You may find they haven't actually thought it all the way to completion.

Wiccans have their own beliefs. They feel we are free to decide, from what I have heard. It's not really humanism , but its also about nature. Around here they are called devil worshippers, however and they live out in the country. Some things that they do are wrong, but we all are sometimes. I was just thinking about them in class yesterday. Some actually are not that liberal, either. Like with any other religion you have your radicals or the more serious ones. They make their own moral choices, but I've always been interested in how they may raise their children. They must have some code of right and wrong, right? I asked one woman about it who was a pagan , and she said she felt that she liked it because she felt christianity did not involve women enough or something. I can't say I agree with that, but I think it is easier for someone to remain pagan and wiccan if that is how they have grown up. These people have children around my age, too. Well, the guys are , but the girls/women are a little younger I think.

here (http://panheads.org/boards/showthread.php?t=136&highlight=wicca) My sister almost turned into one. Her bf and her wanted me to play Dungeon and Dragons. I really wasnt sure if she know what it stood for. And it's basically in short, a cult.read this.. (http://www.econcrisis.homestead.com/The_REAL_History_of_Satanism.html)

I think the best thing for you to do is to continue to live in Christ's footsteps. Throughout the years I have noticed that the greatest witnessing tool is simply living a Godly life, which will make others notice the peace and love that you feel. They will then come to you. I agree with the others in that ramming the bible usually only pushes people farther away. Live for God and He will bring them to you.

This is so true. Actually, it's because of people who I noticed were genuinely trying to live a Godly life that I became interested in Christianity. (I was Wiccan before I became a Christian.)
And Skynes, you're right when you said that they haven't thought it completely through. I didn't know enough to back up my beliefs when I was wiccan, so when I started looking into what Christianity really was, I realized that some of my beliefs were very flimsy. They didn't hold up.

They must have some code of right and wrong, right?

Wiccans follow one rule when deciding what's right and wrong. "A'in it harm none, do what thou wilt." In normal English, if it's not going to hurt anybody, do whatever you want. A wiccan can't manipulate, dominate, or control someone else, because it can be damaging to the other person.

I am so glad I came on this board. I need some help, because there are SO many Wiccans in our school. I am a freshman this year, and I had never witnessed before until I realized that I was the only Christian in one of my classes.
Yesterday, a boy was trying to explain to me that he is a "Christian Wiccan". I tried to explain to him that it is contradictory to the Bible. He argued "Well, Jesus used these powers, so why shouldn't we?".

Well, why shouldn't they? And do they really have powers? I need to be able to answer these questions.

He told me he knows a lot about Christianity, then I realized how Satan uses this boy's own stupidity. I'm not trying to be rude....but if he knows so much about Christianity, then how could he possibly think he was going to hell just because he committed ONE sin? ( he told me that he won't be a Christian because he already knows he's going to hell because he stole some thing ).

So, I explained the basic principles of Christianity through scripture. ( memorization. it REALLY helps.)

Romans 3:22 "This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and are justified freely by his grace through the redemtion of sins that came by Jesus."

I wanted him to know that God forgives him, and he doesn't have to go to hell if he accepts Jesus as his Savior. Of course, the conversation ended with "Well, you can be a Christian and I'll be a Christian - Wiccan. What ever you want to do". ugh.......

I hope I atleast planted the seed. Now we need God to water it.

here (http://panheads.org/boards/showthread.php?t=136&highlight=wicca) My sister almost turned into one. Her bf and her wanted me to play Dungeon and Dragons. I really wasnt sure if she know what it stood for. And it's basically in short, a cult.read this.. (http://www.econcrisis.homestead.com/The_REAL_History_of_Satanism.html)

I use to like playing D&D. I still do on the occasion that my friends come home and we get bored. The game itself is nothing more than a meer harmless game. There is no true magic involved, it's just an RPG game like Warhammer or Hero Quest. However, there are some blatant idiots out there who think it's really cool to kill each other like the episode that happened in the mid 90s with those 3 kids which really gave the game it's bad reputation. All in all though, I don't feel there is anything wrong with RPG games in and of itself.

CJ

They must have some code of right and wrong, right?

I think it's called the Wiccan Rede. One of them mentioned it to me once...

Pyscho_for_God, I think you and I can relate the most. I'm pretty much in the same position. I'd never even known of Wiccans until very recently, what with I turned to this board when it didn't go the way -I- wanted. I hope God had some purpose in this... and like you said, I hope I've planted the seed.

Wiccan's DO have real powers. It's not junk, the powers they have are very real. Their source however, isn't nature, but demonic in origin.

A Wiccan can do healings and stuff too. It's not limited to Christianity.

"Well, Jesus used these powers, so why shouldn't we?".
We, in part, should be able to do what Jesus did. The difference is where the power comes from. It SHOULD come from God, nothing else.

Well, I think the Bible warns against sorcery, and I see why. I really can see that. Sometimes people try to make things go their way, and it does but then they can lose their soul too. Or, that is what the Bible says.

one thing i've learned is not to go up to people with the intention of shoving the bible down their throats. a lot of times quoting scriptures is a quick turn off.

very very true. that is almost 100% of the time a good way to make people hate you and god lol. i think a good aproach would be to just tell them about god and your faith and dont force them into A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G. let them make there own decisions at first. thats one of the great things a christian is known for. we dont push people or force people into god we dont constantly say "hey thats wrong" or "come on god doesn't want you to do that" we leave people to make there own decisions. if we have a bible study or conference or worship night dont dont force people into it because otherwise it would be wrong, we jsut invite. we just share the info and that way they start to think on there own. i think i went into a little more detail then needed, but meh you get the picture.lol;)

One thing I do feel is important to add, which Red_Gal reminded me of.

The sorcerors in the Bible knew God. They knew He existed and did know He was true, yet chased after idols anyway. That was why their punishement was so severe, they knew the Truth yet ignored it, they were NOT deceived, they knew better.
Most wiccans today have been deceived, they simply don't know any better.

I was just going to say that Wiccans say they don't beleive in violence, but yet I have heard of instances of violence happening where they live around my area here. Well, I know that they believe in doing their own thing, without being bothered. I just didn't think they beleived in violence towards others.

Well, I think violence is wrong, and even in one's own family or whatever. It is definitely wrong.

Hey ya'll...I've been a Catholic all my life...But I have had some serious issues with the occult...It tends to entangle me in its grasp...The most recent attack: My parents agreed to send me to a private christian school for my last year of school after being homeschooled all my life. Half-way thru the first quarter we get 2 new students to our christian school. Problem is they are wiccan. I have always shunned the 'religion' it actually creeps me out.But I 'befriended' on of the girls. I need help defending myself and my religion from her... Anyone? Please help me. My own faith is very shaken right now...

You could try to witness to her. And let her know that you tolerate religious differences and that you will back off if she wants. You should tell her that you want respect too in return. There are many people who remain best friends, regardless of their religious differences.

a really good way is just be their friend. don't be a friend with intent to push God on them. just be a friend. occasionally God will come up, but don't push for it. people can tell when you're being a friend versus a Christianfriend. they don't trust the Christianfriend.

I'm not 'allowed' to be friends with her...I spend most of the day with her...I dont really mind her so much...she isnt the one that talks 'religion' with me..Its her sister. Her sister is 'bi' more lesbian than bi. Plus she constantly tries to tell me how hypocritical my religion is.
We recently got into a fight becasue I didnt give her a christmas present but I gave all my other friends christmas presents...My reply was that they didnt celebrate christmas plus I only gave presents to my better friends...all 2 of them...Was I totally wrong for that?
And how close is theyre 'yule' celbration to our christmas anyway?

Know what..I'm gonna start a new thread about one of the issues she pushes on me cause I always had a hard time explaining it.

sounds like my cousin last year...

hmmm, Christmas w/ my wiccan aunt will prove to be fun

one thing that keeps coming to my mind while reading this...

if you're going to witness to someone involved with Wicca/New Age/Satanism in any sense, you need to know your place in Jesus Christ. you need to have a solid relationship with Him, a deep knowledge of scripture, and a knowing that the Blood of Jesus is more powerful than any demonic force. it would also be good to have the gift of discernment, so you can sense what's happening in the spiritual realm.

Satan is the father of lies. his trick is deception. so he knows quite well how to deceive people. he'll deceive people to get involved with Wicca practices and use arguments and logical concepts to try and drag Christians down who don't know who they are, who Jesus is, and who don't have that relationship with Him.

if you have a friend who's involved with Wiccan things, pray for the blinders to be removed from their eyes. pray that God would open their eyes to see the truth. and just love them. don't even tell them about Jesus (unless you feel led to by the Holy Spirit, of course). pray for them at home and love them when you see them in person. allow the Holy Spirit to do a work in them.

^ can't say much else. exactly.

Spirituality comes from within, and she's is probably comfortable with her religion. Although many say that wicca is not a religion. The military is not recognizing it either. So, just respect her beliefs too, and alot of people don't . But you can respect hers.

a really good way is just be their friend. don't be a friend with intent to push God on them. just be a friend. occasionally God will come up, but don't push for it. people can tell when you're being a friend versus a Christianfriend. they don't trust the Christianfriend.

The thing is: the Wiccans I know hate me because I am a Christian. Not because I'm me, but for that sole reason. It's hard, but not impossible to become their friends. As long you love your enemies, they'll see something different about you, about us.

However, being their friend doesn't involve you necessarily "respecting" (I can't think of another word) their beliefs. Me, I wouldn't be able to stand there and watch people pray to Satan (I know, Satanists, not Wiccans, but I'm just saying) without going off, physically or verbally. That's something I need to tone down a bit, eh? (The funny thing is, I never would have realized this if I hadn't posted here. :o )

I dunno...its hard because I look at her sometimes and I know she's prayin to whoever to curse someone...I cant respect revenge...or anything based on revenge...They get really mad at me because one of them is a lesbian and when I found out a basicly avoided talking to her after that...I always get into a fight with them over those two issues...Not that I try to...I just have a habit of arguing alot...Plus...weird things have been happening in my house simce I met them...I dont know if its a coincidence or if its them or if I'm being tested in some way...

Plus...weird things have been happening in my house simce I met them...I dont know if its a coincidence or if its them or if I'm being tested in some way...

Don't let them have any power over you...if you start ascribing 'weird things' that happen to their 'witchcraft' then you are giving them power, the power of fear over you and maybe even others...I honestly don't believe that Wiccans have any real power, power THEY believe they have...I guess I just know too many benign Wiccans...

Weird things happening can be coincidental or maybe it isn't. I don't know about that. You can have feelings that are intuitive. You know, you can sense things and have weird feelings about something, a place , or whatever, and it is real. Isn't Wicca a nature based religion? Just not sure.

I honestly don't believe that Wiccans have any real power, power THEY believe they have...I guess I just know too many benign Wiccans...

Well, they don't have any real power. But Satan still has his say in how things go around here. Not that he could ever stand up to God, but I think that Satan gives these people powers even if they don't attribute them to him. I mean, if Satan has enough power over the human race to make them fight us (Christians), I'm not the least bit suprised when something happens that they claim to have been a part of in some demonic way. Satan has a grip on anyone who isn't standing by the Lord's side, whether they know it or not. We're that frail and weak alone, and if the world realized that, then everyone would know God. But the world can't realize that, because we were all born into sin, into darkness. Unless God calls our weak, evil lives, we will never break free from the prison known as sin.

i dont if anyone has posted these verses on here yet.. but i found these today..

2 Corinthians 6:14-16
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?
15 and what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

with verses like these, i really dont see how a christian can innocently take part in wicca and take part in God.

What exactly do Wiccans believe? I always thought of it as witches but is that true?

They may have powers. not sure

Although many say that wicca is not a religion. The military is not recognizing it either.

Then why do the military allow Wiccan Chaplains?

i think you might be talking about different militaries.

They may have powers. not sure

yes, they do, but they come from satan, and this is to lure more people into it.

correct. satan has power but it is weak compared to God. there is power in the blood of the Lamb. we as christians must not forget that. through Jesus Christ, we have the victory and we are overcomers.

Then why do the military allow Wiccan Chaplains?
At least they don't condone Satanism... though I am sure they allow it.


The evils of the power... it is alluring. I felt it once (many times) and it was powerful. I pray for anyone tempted by it...

Then why do the military allow Wiccan Chaplains?

Chaplain? What is it?

And I've known lots of Christians who do not understand anyone. Being Christian should include respect for others.

Just because they feel so perfect.

A Chaplain is bit like a Minister. Except their job isn't to run a church, but to deal with the spiritual wellbeing of a group of ppl, maybe a bunch of students of a particular denomination in a University, there's Chaplains for different religions at Military etc.

At least they don't condone Satanism... though I am sure they allow it.


The evils of the power... it is alluring. I felt it once (many times) and it was powerful. I pray for anyone tempted by it...
Yes, it is, but we can overcome it.

wicca is nothing more than a occult cover up in sheep's clothing. It seems harmless enough but it isn't. I'll be praying for ya to get out of it, its just no good.

And I've known lots of Christians who do not understand anyone. Being Christian should include respect for others.

Yes, it should. How can we EVER hope to reach others for Christ if we cannot first respect them as human beings?! It's hard sometimes as humans to understand that God does NOT love us "more" because we are Christians...We can love and respect people without condoning their sin. We do it for Christians every day (and don't even pretend that Christians do not sin).

Wiccan are male and female. Just saying that the term witch is nongendered.

I don't know why they have haunted events. They have one around here every year. One year they had it and folks nearby got very scared. Makes me wonder what happened. It was some incident years ago.

I'm just not sure what happened, but I asked someone about it and they said that maybe some ritual happened. But there's been no more incidents since then.

I was just wondering if anyone here believes in witches. This may not be a good topic, but just tell me if you don't feel it is. Just curious.

yes, but their powers come from entities not their own so more demon possessed than anything.

Wicca/New Age (http://www.panheads.org/boards/showthread.php?t=136)

Here's the thread we already have for this.

I agree with aliengurl.
Witches are real as are their powers. Their powers are demonic in origin though, even though most of them may not even realise it.

There are quack witches though. Not all of them are for real.

Some say that pagans are against harming others, but are Wiccans? I'm just not an expert on this either. Well, there seems to be different groups and kinds to it all, also. Some seem like they just want to be left alone, and I mean that is only their right. I don't think people should be so scared of them, and many around here are! They are scared to go by their houses at night. I just don't understand that.

The different kinds do exist and I sometimes think I am one

If you've accepted Christ as your Saviour, then you're not one.

there are different types of them, too. And some have never even heard of Jesus or God, maybe. Strange thing happened last night, scared myself!

what kind of strange things?

OH. I shouldn't have said that, I was sort of sick didn't feel well either is all I meant. Sorry. Nothing happened....

yes, witches are real.

we cannot overcome satanism in and of ourselves. but through the blood of the Lamb.

and you think you are a wiccan? what causes you to think so? i read in previous pages how there are a lot of wiccans where you live...so maybe they're influencing you? i dunno..

yes, witches are real.

we cannot overcome satanism in and of ourselves. but through the blood of the Lamb.

and you think you are a wiccan? what causes you to think so? i read in previous pages how there are a lot of wiccans where you live...so maybe they're influencing you? i dunno..
Yes, there are many here. I've never seen the the place in this town, because I can't find it. There's some that have went, but it's out in the woods and it's too easy to get lost.

And I've known lots of Christians who do not understand anyone. Being Christian should include respect for others.

K. I agree, however some people take saying that their lifestyle is not what God wants for them as not showing them respect. They don't seem to understand that it is the ultimate respect. That the person telling them that is only telling them that cause they want the best for them.

And just on a sidenote, I don't know which military you guys were talking about but if you were talking about the U.S. military then Skynes was right. The U.S. military has recognized wicca as a legitimate religion. The only restraint they put on it is that wiccans are not allowed to do their rituals in the nude, which I understand is how they do most of their rituals, but I don't know.

Peace

@Reeper- Same here , there are different militaries. And, yes, wiccans have rituals and all. There again we all have instincts, you know i mean natural ones. It's human nature, but you can't always act on things. (If you know what I mean). There again, I mean it makes sense to keep it that way sometimes. And are somethings any better here, no.

Yes, there are many here. I've never seen the the place in this town, because I can't find it. There's some that have went, but it's out in the woods and it's too easy to get lost.


i wouldn't advise you going out to find them...

There again we all have instincts, you know i mean natural ones. It's human nature, but you can't always act on things. (If you know what I mean). There again, I mean it makes sense to keep it that way sometimes. And are somethings any better here, no.

i don't understand what you are trying to say...that their rituals are classified as "human instinct"?

*Off Topic*

Many sit within the church. Tis called knowing one's enemy, satanists could recite bible passages backwards. Mm.

*recluses back into corner*

x :-X

I dont get your point.

he's saying that just because someone goes to church, doesn't mean they are a Christian. that there are wiccans who go to church just so they can understand the Bible and Christians more easily so they can better counteract them.

don't know how much i take that as fact (i'm sure there are some in the church, but i wouldn't say "many").

Okay, somewhere around here we had a thread on witchcraft. I can't find it now that I want to read it, so I'm sure the mods are going to love me starting this again if it has gone it's merry way.

I have just been shocked lately at how much witchcraft is in cartoons. I really want to do something about it. Any suggestions?

Don't let your kids watch it, or any other kids you happen to be around or babysit. :P Kids base a lot of their beliefs and stuff off of the adults who are around them.

Gosh my friends mom does witchcraft and its really wierd. I was at his house and i told his mom I had a stuffy nose and I wanted to go home (lame huh?) lol that nose was killing me. So instead she goes up to her room and i watch her make this odd "potion" with all these different types of oils and stuff. She then pored them into a bag and shook it up and made me sniff it. It smelled awfull, I think it was eucaliptus (sp?).

I am concerned for children whose parents may not be aware of what they are letting their children watch. I think the networks that are showing this stuff need to be made aware how some parents feel about this.

It seems that even as low as the elementary school kids are doing things that are witchcraft, it's the cool thing to do here.

A neighbor who is 14 came down to talk to me about something she wants to get into but her mom won't let her. I thought if I showed her in scripture where we are suppose to stay away from witchcraft she would understand how serious it is. She thinks it's okay to play around with it with her friends because she thinks it's not real.

I e-mailed Focus on the Family last night about it. I wonder if some kind of boycott could be started against networks promoting witchcraft.

If you guys feel led to pray with me about this, that would be great.

Boycotting never seems to really work. It just brings awareness about the particular things being boycotted, and adds to the possible additional interest to it (some kids will become more interested with it because those in authoriy forbid it). A lot of artwork in the 20th century wouldn't have become popular if it didn't have its people against its promotion.

Gosh my friends mom does witchcraft and its really wierd. I was at his house and i told his mom I had a stuffy nose and I wanted to go home (lame huh?) lol that nose was killing me. So instead she goes up to her room and i watch her make this odd "potion" with all these different types of oils and stuff. She then pored them into a bag and shook it up and made me sniff it. It smelled awfull, I think it was eucaliptus (sp?).

How's that witchcraft? So she knows her herbs and oils... doesn't mean she's a witch...

...Witchcraft has been entertwined into society. Things that look innocent when they aren't, kids cartoons are a very good example. I guess the only thing we can do is enlighten and teach children that things like this should seen for what they really are, and not what they seem.

That's a good point, Riz. I am just angry that Satan is using cartoons to get to children. I need to spend time in prayer to see what God wants me to do.

Imagine my shock when my eight year old tells me at dinner she's getting good at meditating, but not as good as Raven, because she can't float up, yet. *Mouth drops open...food falls out...* Not a pretty sight.

I think children should be made aware of what witchcraft is at an early age, and made to be known that it's wrong, just like stealing, or hurting people. The real problem is, that nobody will really care that much what some Christians have to say about what's being shown on Television, they'll laugh, call you old fashioned, and continue playing the same old stuff. It's just not "cool" to be a Christian anymore.

Boycotting never seems to really work. It just brings awareness about the particular things being boycotted, and adds to the possible additional interest to it (some kids will become more interested with it because those in authoriy forbid it). A lot of artwork in the 20th century wouldn't have become popular if it didn't have its people against its promotion.

That is a really good point. When many kids are told something is wrong their interest in it is intensified. I think the most effective thing you can do is not endorse it yourself, but dont expect others to applaud you for trying to take a stand. It is really hard to make a difference when something you dont agree with, like witchcraft, penetrates society. I dont think that you will be noticed on a national level, but maybe within your own circle, and sometimes that is the most effective way.

I think that people sometimes exaggerate witchcraft....they get scared. Some people I know into it or whatever well they're into paganism/witchcraft. I'm not saying its right... but it's a little exaggerated.

Good ol' America... they take out smoking of cigarettes and cigars in cartoons a few years ago, but allow witchcraft, beating up (cartoon killing I guess, meant to be funny)... Most just ignore it and just think of it as part of the show, but there's always plenty that take it seriously.

It's not that it isn't wrong, it's not really realistic to be scared of it is all or the people

Hey. In africa, witchcraft is a whole other ball game. I've heard some funny and crazy stuff from credible witnesses. We have like witch doctors and all that. our one elder have been face to face with a real zombie used by witch doctors. They were on a outreach. And the person was dead! and walking around. They rebuked the thing and yeah... It went away to make the story short.

So please don't say it's harmless. Maybe the affects may differ, but it is a real thing. In africa, ppl's lives are destroyed by it because they do not know Jesus. Oppose it by praying. Only God is powerful enough to face witchcraft. In Him, we can stand.

I believe that before we do anything we should pray and intercede, especially on levels where we cannot see the whole picture and where the Spirit of God operates.

There nothing to be afraid of if we live in obedience to God, and resist the devil.

Jam 4:7 NKJV Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

I agree. I am not afraid, because I know Who the true Victor is...but at the same time, I know it's real and NOT to be toyed with.

You must be VERY shrewed in dealing with it. The experiences I've had with fighting against it are definently the most intense of anything I've had to deal with in the Spirit.

I watched a beloved pastor almost completely loose her mind trying to expose and fight witchcraft. She would read books, etc. on witchcraft to try to help people caught up in it. She got messed up pretty badly. She has gone through deliverance and is almost back to normal.

(found the original thread and understand why you couldn't find it. it was under "Wicca/New Age". just merged the two into one.)

anyway, i am quite disgusted with satan's attempts to bring us down.. he can't even create his own; only mimic.
and it isn't considered "cool" to be a christian anymore. i'm working on changin' people's minds about that. ;)

it isn't considered "cool" to be a christian anymore.

when was it cool to be a christian?

Good point

very good point.
only when it was just adam, eve, God and the angels.. until one of those angels fell...

I should remove "anymore" from my previous statement.

i think so...