its happening Tuesday!!!! blindside's new cd "About A Burning Fire" hits stores!!!!! this is an awesome awesome cd!! and the lyrics are especially great, if you don't believe me, check it out at www.shoutweb.com where you can listen to the whole thing!! so if you're a blindside freak or are just looking for a new great christian band, go get yourself a copy of About A Burning Fire. I think this is the guys best album yet and trust me, you won't be dissappointed! :grin: :grin:

i does officially release on Tuesday but it was 'leaked" to the internet

heh, yeah, sorry, if i could read i would've understood what you were saying the first time around...(i read tuesday as 'today' like 5 times, cuz i'm slow like that ::) )

Whoohoo!!!! Their new cd comes out tomorrow!!! I'm definently gonna get it. I know it's gonna be great. And even so, I just wanna help support the band. I'm so glad that these guys, as well as all the other bands, are Christian bands. They help draw in and reach sinners that no one else could've reached. 8)

Sorry to dissapoint you guys... but that is not the best album from Blindside... silence was way much better... they are not as heavy as the used to be.

It don't matter, I find the song "about a burning fire" rough and tough, its allot louder than all the rest of the songs on Silence.

It don't matter, I find the song "about a burning fire" rough and tough, its allot louder than all the rest of the songs on Silence.

That is the louder song of the album... the rest of the songs are not that loud... it is a cool album... but it is not something u would expect from a band like blindside... maybe from Skillet, o Pillar, but not Blindside

Oh my gosh you are not gonna believe this (yes you will cuz you know I wouldn't lie bout it). I just saw a comercial on FoxNews advertising Blindside playing at Cornerstone and the release of thier new CD.... AWESOME

To tell u the truth, im not buying it because Christian says the D word in one of the songs.

To tell u the truth, im not buying it because Christian says the D word in one of the songs.


Really!!!???? tell me da song please!!!

The track is "Hooray It's L.A." and the phrase in question is "It's a D***ed cold night"....

THANKS! but i can write/read the english very welll but my pronuntiation suck, besides i cant understand the english too good, so could you be more specific, like the min.sec where the phrase is located, thanks!

really, I just know because of the Blindside forums and ive been told again, I haven't bought it, i mean, thats why im not buying it, sry.

Got it! the song is Hooray It's L.A. and he says is a D*** cold night time: 2:30

u have the CD, or no? and thx, I wasn't sure, so now i probally won't buy it for sure.

I dont have the CD it will take about 2 or 3 months till i got it, remember i live in Guatemala so those thing take time to come here, i donwnloaded it with ZPOC. but it rocks i am almost sure i will buy it.

I know this is from the older days, but I love a quote from Nerve off the self-titled album: "Everyone seems to believe in god, but no one believes in You, but I do, I'm not ashamed..."

That is a great quote. I actually had it written on my door for a while.

do you know somewhere i could get the self titled one?

YOU HAVE 3 WAYS TO GET IT... BUY IT!!!!!!! if you dont know where to buy it... you can buy it here... www.blindsideonline.com www.amazon.com or www.ebay.com

And in the last case you dont have money to buy it, download it from a P2P program, or from my site i have their whole discography there ;D any time! and for free http://home.galileo.edu/~sgamarro/Musica/Blindside/

woo-hoo, i got their album yesterday, and it ROCKS!!! I hadn't listened to it entirely cuz i was busy, but i am going to now! I LOVE BLINDSIDE!!! ;) :p

Yeah, they got Billy Corgan to play through a whole song.
Man I don't care if they say the "D" word in one of their songs, I still think that they're a better witness than most other "Christian" bands on the secular market. They still preach the gospel in their songs, maybe they just need to be broken, and maybe you should lift up your brothers in prayer. I will now that I know this info.

I absolutely do care if they use the d word. It totally compromises thier witness. I'm saying this not only as a christian but as a parent. I have to say I haven't heard the song yet and I tried to think of how that word could be used in a correct manor without being profane and so far I haven't come up with one. I hope that the song proves me wrong.

no, he says it when he shouldn't have, its like"It's a da**ed cold night", why is that nesisary, you all can buy it, but its the same way I feel about POD, but POD hasn't gotten to the point of saying a cuss word in one of there songs, so, right now, im not gonna buy it, plus, I don't think my mom would let me, bands like that, turn me off conpletely, I can't stand it, I anit buyin it. If they've gotten that depret, then forget it, im not buyin into it, its the worlds thought, not mine, and I see and hear too much of it on TV already, thats why I don't care if bands like Pillar, 38th Parallel, and Kutless preach, becasue I need it, the world can listen to stuff like linkin Park(im not sayin there bad), but it turns me off, and it gets boaring to listen to a song like that for me.

i heard, the whole album. yeah, it could be a little interrupting that they use that word in one of their songs, but oh well. I think their "silence" album is a little better, but their message in this album still gets across in the same way, at least to me it does. I think their cool, and they still ROCK!

YOU HAVE 3 WAYS TO GET IT... BUY IT!!!!!!! if you dont know where to buy it... you can buy it here... www.blindsideonline.com www.amazon.com or www.ebay.com

And in the last case you dont have money to buy it, download it from a P2P program, or from my site i have their whole discography there any time! and for free http://home.galileo.edu/~sgamarro/Musica/Blindside/

wow. lots of excitement there. I'll buy it, I promise, just remember to breathe! ;)

HAHAHA yeah! i know... BLINDSIDE ROCK MY SOCK OFF!!! LOL but i also have skillet Pillar and some other... donwload anything you want.. just let me know that you are donwloading it, i dont mind if it is a panhead downloading my music.

http://home.galileo.edu/~sgamarro/Musica/

Did anyone get it??? It's good (maybe it doesnt beat Silence... yet!).......... Check out www.blindsideonline.com....... I know you can listen to the whole CD somewhere on the net..... anyways! If you can, check it out... They're gonna be on tour with POD soon, so.... YEAH! ;)

i dont' have it yet, and i'm the one who was all hyped about it too..hopefully i'll get it when i go home for spring break

blindside says the d word?????? are you serious!??!?!?!?!?! cuz that ticks me off if they do

Awesomeness!! I'll have to check it out (I'll have to drive 45 minutes out to Lifeway to see if they even have it!)! ;D

BUT CHRISTIAN uses the word in its "original" meaning.... FORSAKEN not like as a cuss

from what my friend says, He's saying the night is damned as in its biblical meaning as if it's a forsaken, Godless night type thing. i don't think he's using it as a curseword because i know blindside would never curse in their music. we have to look at the context. and also burned_inside, i thought you were a lil out of line about blindside and pod. Just because they are making waves in the secular market does not make them any less "Christian" than bands like Pillar, Disciple, etc. And just because a band doesn't always scream, "Jesus saves!" in thier music doesn't make them any less christian than those that do. However, if you pay attention to the meaning of Blindside's and POD's lyrics, you will realize that the message is indeed, Jesus Saves.

ya ya ya, of course, I don't even remeber me saying that but what ever. Ya, I like both, I wouldn't have bought Blindside's Silence CD if I didn't like them, but there boards have made me allittle low about them, even though the boards have nothing to do with them, but Blindside is coo, and I have nothing against them, I endup saying stuff late at night i don't mean to say, so thats why I said that , lol, I was proably sayin that, or what I meant to say now is that P.O.D is more for people that don't like to be preached to, and its more for trying to reach out to the non Christians and not just us, but I like preachy music, which is why its not the greatest to say something agaist God or Jesus, or it won't be a good convo, lol.But Blindside rules, and if I would have known thats what they meant by it, then I wouldn't have been so negitive aobut them.

okay i see, yeah i totally understand about blindside's boards, in fact, i used to post on them all the time and i get so fed up that i came here. THOSE BOARD SUCK!!!!!!

from what my friend says, He's saying the night is damned as in its biblical meaning as if it's a forsaken, Godless night type thing. i don't think he's using it as a curseword because i know blindside would never curse in their music. we have to look at the context. and also burned_inside, i thought you were a lil out of line about blindside and pod. Just because they are making waves in the secular market does not make them any less "Christian" than bands like Pillar, Disciple, etc. And just because a band doesn't always scream, "Jesus saves!" in thier music doesn't make them any less christian than those that do. However, if you pay attention to the meaning of Blindside's and POD's lyrics, you will realize that the message is indeed, Jesus Saves.

That's exactly what he's saying. It's about L.A. and how there is a contradiction in that place. So many people are like, "It's so nice down there!" but there are so many people that are totally persuing sin. The verse is all, "It's a darn cold night," but then the chorus says, "Horray it's a beautiful day, L.A." So I totally think that what skilletchickforeva said really applies.


P.S. Billy Corgan plays on this song! ROCK!

I still disagree with the use of the d word even if it's used in context (tho in my opinion its a bit of a stretch). There are so many other words that could be used. It was completely unessasary. If you have to go into detail as to why you used the word and it's context, then maybe it was a bad idea to use the word in the first place. Also when considering contextual use we must consider cultural use. In our culture it is a bad word. I know I wouldn't want to hear my kids singing that phrase. I would chalk it up to the "poor choice of words" catagory. Which yes I have fallen to on occasion (I can see the 4 fingers pointing back at me)...

i see what you're saying and perhaps it wasn't the best thing. this is why we need to remember that Blindside(just like you and me) are all human and we do make mistakes. I just hope some ppl such as www.corruptchristianmusic.com don't see that and get on their case about it. well they prolly will anyways, that website is just sick. if ppl can't accept the fact that ppl in Christian music make mistakes then they have planks sticking out of their eyes. I'm sorry, i'm kinda ranting like this but i was on that stupid website last night anyways cuz i wanted to see what they said about Evanescence. instead of really blaming the band, they blamed the christian bookstores for selling the cd to begin w/! oh well, i need to calm down. I'm just tired of hearing that a certain christian band is corrupt because the members happen to make some mistakes. everybody makes mistakes, no matter how Christian we are. Paul even did.

ya know I have to say this in adendum to my last post. The decision wasn't just the band but it also lies with thier producers and label. So just pondering the thought: a secular label and producer aren't going to care if the d word is used. I wonder how much thought was put in to the lyrick by all concerned parties? Does that ultamately make the band more culpable?

And hey aren't they from Sweden or something? I wonder what the signifigance of the d word is there culturaly. Is it commonly used in a phrase in that context or is it still culturaly a bad word....

I still disagree with the use of the d word even if it's used in context (tho in my opinion its a bit of a stretch). There are so many other words that could be used. It was completely unessasary. If you have to go into detail as to why you used the word and it's context, then maybe it was a bad idea to use the word in the first place. Also when considering contextual use we must consider cultural use. In our culture it is a bad word. I know I wouldn't want to hear my kids singing that phrase. I would chalk it up to the "poor choice of words" catagory. Which yes I have fallen to on occasion (I can see the 4 fingers pointing back at me)...

Yeah, but we have to go into the context of the bible all the time too because certain areas may appear controversial, but they really aren't. That whole song is about the way that the big city life style of LA has overshadowed the creation of God. It says it right there in the song. They probably even forshadowed people criticizing them for the use of the word, but they didn't have any personal conviction about it.

ya know I have to say this in adendum to my last post. The decision wasn't just the band but it also lies with thier producers and label. So just pondering the thought: a secular label and producer aren't going to care if the d word is used. I wonder how much thought was put in to the lyrick by all concerned parties? Does that ultamately make the band more culpable?

And hey aren't they from Sweden or something? I wonder what the signifigance of the d word is there culturaly. Is it commonly used in a phrase in that context or is it still culturaly a bad word....

Exactly! It's like when we say "bloody". We don't think anything of it, but in England, it's a really bad word. (I guess)

Ooohhh, i'm so excited to get their new album, i bought it offline soo i am just waiting for it to come in the mail...its taking forEVER!! but i love their silence album, pitiful rocks ;D

yes yes, the whole cd rocks...my friend gets to go out to eat with them and POD, NO FAIR!!
my fav song from that album is Eye Of The Storm, AABF, Hooray, Its LA

yes yes, the whole cd rocks...my friend gets to go out to eat with them and POD, NO FAIR!!


WHAT?!?! :o :o :o

wow.

DUDE YOUR FRIEND IS SOO STINKIN LUCKY!! i'd kill to be able to do that!! did they buy the special advance tickets?

I'm probably getting that cd tommorow or something, soo...;D

no, he works at a radio station www.zfmnow.com and he knows the guys from POD and i think Blinside, but he is just gonna go out to eat with them..his name is Dakota, i think its before that concert that they have with Hazen St. and Lucuna Coil

that is just freakin sweet!!! ;D ;D ;D

That it is! *burns with jealousy* ::] ;)

*sings* I thought about burning fire...

Silence = 2x better. I thought he said damp to be honest.

Oh yeah, I like eye of the storm, All of us, AABF , and thats about it... i bought it, and was kinda disappointed. However. Where do people get off with all this "cuss" word stuff. To me, its bull crap. S*** means the exact same thing as CRAP! so if you said crap, .. you might as well have said s... I think its just stupid, just " shooting a bird" sticking your middle finger up is not a sin, its your message behind it.

though that may be true, most people find s*** to be worse for some reason, and if you live in TN, they say it, and it don't mean the same thing as s*** to them, so its all in differents, I guess.

However. Where do people get off with all this "cuss" word stuff. To me, its bull crap. S*** means the exact same thing as CRAP! so if you said crap, .. you might as well have said s...

Well, 'poop' means s*** too, so does that mean that when you say 'poop' you might as well have said s***? Absolutely not. The same applies to 'crap'.

I see where you are coming from though, saying that substitute words really isn't much better than saying the original word. I agree. But I think the way you stated it was a bit confusing. It seemed like you were saying that you might as well use s*** if you are willing to use crap...

Do you guys know what legalism is?

Crap = S*** .. it means the exact freakin thing. And damn is a abreviation for damnation , a biblical word. So "damned" basicilly means.. the person/object/place has a damnation on it

but it is culturaly a swear word. give it this test. Would I say that word in it's so called "biblical meaning" in my bible study group? Would my pastor use that word in his sermon? I would say the answer is no for 2 reasons. 1. cultural profanity 2. who am I to declare damnation upon anything

If you want to look at the roots of a word the c word came from the inventor of the toilet John Crapper. Does that mean I should run around blabbing that word? No. And when I do (and yes I do occasionally), I feel really convicted about saying it. In fact thier are plenty of words that aren't profanity but are just plain not nice and I shouldn't use them.

Regardless of what it means, I really dont think they needed that in there. To me it just seems like theyre trying to sound tough or hard core or something by saying damn.

He only says it twice compared to the 4 times he says Dark. My pastor uses "damnation" or " damned" , and i hate seen TV pastors use it aswell

As a follow up to ^ , If God saw that word fit enough for James I's court to use in their translation, it should be ok to use in a sermon. What would we say in its place? They are redeemed to hell?

ok here's the difference. if you are directly saying something like "unbelievers will suffer eternal damnation" or "they will be damned for thier unbelief". no prob. but if you say "d it" or "d you" or "that d dog" which is the same usage as "it's a d cold night" that is using it in a culturaly profane way. When used as an adverb about something or someone it's bad.


I should have put this in my last post to explain what I meant.

^right on, skilletosis.

This thread is bleeding legalism. God's grace allows for such things. Even so, the context is still in referance to damnation, refering to the abuse of God's earth by southern Californians, covering up His existance. Seriously, I'm not trying to make excuses either. Read their interviews.

Here, this is what I see of taht word, like many have said, It means damnation, but, like also has been said, our sin is damned, but to me, we have no right to damn anything, only God, like our sin. And saying that is an abuse of the word, just like freakin or friggin, is a susbtute of the F word. But, damn is a more powerful word, and like I said, only God should say is. Would anyone agree with me on anything I said, or am I just babbiling on, and not making any sence, and then people get mad at me.

oh I totally agree with you, it's not my place to place damnation on anything. Legalism smeagleism, whether they say it is in context the way it was used is not. bad choice of words. Like I said maybe where they are from it's no big deal. And if that's the case then the label bears responsibility. Any christian label in the US would have said "you know here that is a bad thing to say, we shouldn't use that. There's plenty of other ways to say it". It's possible that the label took advantage of the situation. Personally I think they just didn't care. But really does my opinion matter....lololol hey if I can't laugh at myself I would be a pretty dull person...

Here, this is what I see of taht word, like many have said, It means damnation, but, like also has been said, our sin is damned, but to me, we have no right to damn anything, only God, like our sin. And saying that is an abuse of the word, just like freakin or friggin, is a susbtute of the F word. But, damn is a more powerful word, and like I said, only God should say is. Would anyone agree with me on anything I said, or am I just babbiling on, and not making any sence, and then people get mad at me.

It's still legalism. Have grace in the issue, but present your disappointment.

nothin I said ment I said the word, the most word I might say is crap, but thats it, and I don't plan on going further. I was giving a deffinition of why its wrong, and so it hell, allot of people miss use htat to. I wasn't saying anything against what you said, I just added more.

Yeah, it just sounded like you were saying, "Because Blindside says damn in their song, they are no londer a part of Christian culture, and thereby are not Christian." And even if you don't by the album because they say the "d" word is like me coming to this forum and saying, "I'm not coming back to this thread ever again because you say damn, hell, and God too much," or even, "at all."
Or say for instance I came to this thread, and I was an immature Christian, and I said the "d" word or even more extreme curse words pretty frequently, should you condemn me? No, why would you want your brother to continue to stumble, instead you would treat me with love and gentleness, kindly exhorting me in love, and rebuking that behavior, because the Bible says to tame the tongue.
In the same way, instead of ostricizing Blindside as brothers, state your opinion even on their message boards, get a big enough following of people sharing your same concern. If there are enough of the fans that are as concerned as you are, the band will have to listen. It's there fan base! CD sales could drop! They're not even that big in the first place!
But I, personally think that they are not in sin. I believe that Blindside is a band that follows their convictions, and have stated that to me in their interviews, and I think that they have looked at this issue, and were not convicted by the Spirit, and continued to add this lyric into the song.

I didn't say it meaning anything about Blindside, It was the definition I was giving of the word. And no offence, but there boards, they don't care, trust me, I was there for about a month or 2, and they, even Chrsitians cuss themselfs there too, so why would they, thats why I left there boards, because i don't find id healthful in my Christian life to read the word over and over again.

Well dude, sounds like they need some exhortation themselves. We should go in there together sometime. It burdens me to see people stumble.

This one kind of sucked, so we can forget about this one. (refering to the thread.

I bought the new cd about a month ago, I like it.
(Can't say my mom does though, I don't get why, but it's fine with me)

blindside use to rock back in the day what happen. :)

Can anyone help me find the CD R.I.P. by Blindside, my son would like it and I can not seem to find it anywhere. Thanks for your help!
cinbau1@excite.com

burned_inside have you actually seen the thread on the blindside boards about this topic? maybe if i give it to you and you can read it, you will actually withold your judgement about the ppl on there. I actually post regularly on the boards, and true, they're not perfect but they're a heck of alot better than they used to be. here's the link anyway http://forums.blindsideonline.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=650104&f=250107&m=5381011

for your information, i feel more comfortable on those boards because ppl aren't so quick to judge others. I felt that the atmosphere on here was too judgemental, so thats why i left for the most part. and dont' try to tell me i'm less of a christian than you are.

Pfft, anyone who has a problem with Blindside is just pissed cause they are better than a band that got their name from kitchenware.

I LOVE KITCHENWARE!!! I love doing my dishes, especially when I clean skillets! I love Skillet! I love doing work! Kitchenware rocks!!!

i dont see the problem. the king james bible says damn and ass. but its not vulgar because its being used in the correct context. christian said damn in the correct context in the song so its completely ok. somone earlier asked if we see our pastor saying damn during a sermon.. well i do, and infact ive seen it. its nothing wrong though because its used in the correct context. and now to say a sentence with words sometimes used as curse words but infact im using them in the correct context...

Bob was damned to hell. I rode into the mountains on an ass. we need to buy a ***** inorder to start our dog breeding business.

If you were using it in the correct context, why the asterisks? I agree w/you btw.

recently Will has added a filter that changes some words to asterisks. that's why.

ok, carry on.

Oh, I could have told ya that just now - I couldn't put Ashi-taka in correctly, which is without the hyphen.


OK, carry on.

my sister hang out with then in their hotel room when she was at cstone.

recently Will has added a filter that changes some words to asterisks. that's why.

ok, carry on.

That's cool.

who else likes BlindSide?

[Edit:]Why do I bother? The threads always get merged ::] lol.

Oh, yeah, and I've heard 'em before, I think. If I have I thought that they rocked.

I got their cd not to long ago.. my second fav. band now.

I got their cd not to long ago.. my second fav. band now.

mine too. skillet is the best, and always will be the best, though.

Interesting fact:my 24 year old aunt is going to walk down the isle(when she gets married in laman's terms)to Shekina, and I think she said she wanted me to sing it, even the high parts...(*nervous*);)

I wasn't really impressed with their latest cd. I heard their older cd was better, and from what I've heard, it was.

I happen to like there new stuff. I guess, that's becasue that's all I heard. haha.

shekina is my new favorite song by blindside! they are an awesome band by the way, i love their sound.

Rocks!!!!!

i just love pitiful! that song rocks!

Eye of the Storm to me is most catchy.

but you just gotta love pitiful. lol

oooo... and now sleepwalking...

but you just gotta love pitiful. lol
yeah, true. I forgot how the song goes to tell you the truth.

another great one is "all of us". love that one too.

you go to mtv.com and view some behind the scenes stuff.

you can see all thier vids on launch. they are really awesome though, 2nd favorite band now. does anyone know if they are planning on touring soon? i know they are working on a dvd... but i wanna see them!

Check out their website or itickets.com. [I think they are touring Europe. Altho I haven't checked lately.]

no there website says nothing, they have a link to a german blindside site, and it says they are working on a dvd and NOT touring, but thats the last posted news and that was a few months ago.

The only date itickets has is Alive Fest 2005 in Ohio.

The band turns ten this year. [please don't die!]

hopefully they won't...

i can't wait till they re-release their first two CDs (with bonus tracks, might i add) and 'Ten Years Running Blind' comes out. I'm so getting that!

yeah im really pumped for those^^ and thier new album...

I am sooo excited for all this new stuff coming out.