Ok lemme start this off by saying I HATE SLIPKNOT!!! Just so you dont get any false impressions.

Ok, a bunch of people i know (definitely not "friends") said today that the members of Slipknot were christian, but we all know that their lyrics and costumes dont show that. I find it hard to believe this. Does anybody else know?

I think we shouldn't 'slam' this guys. Slipnot is a band making music. And only God can judge a person/people if they are Christian or not. :)

I can say this, don't slam Slipknot because I do listen to them, and I do like their music from a musician's standing. Although I do like their music and learn from it, they are not Christian and many of their lyrics prove it.

Yeah... why is it that I hate--er, strongly dislike ;) a band like Slipknot, and yet love bands like Project 86, East West, and Disciple? Well, the lyrics are the main reason. I don't listen to much secular music, and if I like a secular song it -usually- doesn't have any stand-out negative content.

My advice is to completely stay away from secular music. My brother used to listen to Eminem. He was curious to know what the deal was behind some of his lyrics... and he started looking at some inapropriate web pages, if you know what I mean. It's things like this that make me dislike listening to secular music so much, and the same reason I can't stand watching MTV, or even Disney without seeing an underwear commercial.

Pertaining to the thread (lol :P ), Slipknot is not a group of Christians, although that's not very hard to figure out. A friend of mine told me that Metallica didn't have any "bad" lyrics... but his definition of "bad" wasn't the same as mine. Just the same, maybe to this guy who claims Slipknot is a Christian band, Slipknot is a "postitive" band. However, most of us know better and won't be THAT easily entrapped by those lies.

It is the place of nobody here to determine whether or not anyone is a Christian. None of us know them or their hearts.

Ok lemme start this off by saying I HATE SLIPKNOT!!! Just so you dont get any false impressions.

Ok, a bunch of people i know (definitely not "friends") said today that the members of Slipknot were christian, but we all know that their lyrics and costumes dont show that.

Well, if this wasn't the most discriminating thing I've read all day... To blast a band out because of the way they dress? I dress similar for stage sometimes as some of those guys. Guess that makes me a satanist or something.

Some of us here actually happen to like bands like Slipknot. Granted, they are not Xian, but at the same time, you can't just blast them for their costumes. :\ I am growing ever tired of all the bloody flame threads being posted on this board. >:( kthx

CJ

He may be bashing but everyone is ignoring his question here...which is rather annoying. Also, bud, I think I'll just post the lyrics to the Disciple song "Not The Same" -

How can you be of God? When you look, when you dress, when you smell just like the world / Do you see me as being bad, a friend your children shouldn’t have, just one glance and you know what I’m about Bridge - It’s not the length of my hair, it’s not the clothes that I wear (1 Samuel 16:7), but it’s the cross that I bear (Mark 8:34) / cause you know that I am Chorus - In the world not of it (John 15:19) / cause we gotta show the world He loves them / even though we look the same we’re not the same V2 - God where can I look for you? What will it look like, what will it be like when I gaze my eyes on you / Will I find You a hungry man, will I find You in a prison, or will I find You in the office of a church? (Matthew 25:35-36)

It is the place of nobody here to determine whether or not anyone is a Christian. None of us know them or their hearts.

The way they act is a dead give-away.

I understand that the Bible says 'You will know them by their fruits' and stuff like that. But okay, I bet you're not the picture perfect Christian all the freaking time. I'm getting sick of kids pointing their grimy little fingers at other people, just because they're in the spotlight, and accusing them of not being Christian. So maybe, and probably, these guys aren't. BUT THAT IS NOT YOUR PLACE TO JUDGE.

Look at Titus 1.

I read this last night and it opened a whole new window for me.

OMGZZ d00d. Look at Matt 7:1-6. Judge not lest you be judged, pal. Zip it.

one comment, one of their songs, is "if your 555 then im 666". That gives a great reason, where their hearts are, or lackthereof.

If you wish to discuss a band and the possible Christian content of their message (or lack thereof), that is one thing. But if anyone somehow got the impression that it was okay to use these forums as a place to make slanderous comments about a band, fellow board members, or anyone for that matter, allow me to let you know that you are sadly mistaken.

We like to keep things pretty laid back around here, but it's always good to have some basic guidelines just so everyone knows what is expected of them...

- "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Matt 7:12 NASB)

one comment, one of their songs, is "if your 555 then im 666". That gives a great reason, where their hearts are, or lackthereof.

i agree with you. i know that it is not my place to judge them as individuals and where their hearts are, but i can judge what they say. and what they say - in my opinion - isn't at all christian.

Thank you for clearing this up as much as possible, Will.

thank you for reminding all of us Will.

Ya Will thanks for showing that.

To go back to the question of this thread, once again I will say that I listen to Slipknot and personally like their music. To answer the question, I do not personally believe that they are Christians not because of how they dress, but because of many of the messages that they give to audiences and the way that they are much more uplifting of Satan than anything else. If anyone wants to learn more about this band to seriously look into the topic of what they are all about, I reccommend going to their website to learn, but be cautioned. Also kind of on a side note, to my opinion, and stating that I am not in place to judge their hearts, I think that saying that all the members of Slipknot are christians is like saying that Eminem is a christian. Personally I don't think they are, but once agian I'm not at right to judge them, and who knows if they're not, someday they may be.

OMGZZ d00d. Look at Matt 7:1-6. Judge not lest you be judged, pal. Zip it.

There's a difference between judgement and righteous rebuke.

All I see in this thread is judgement.

ok so maybe i shoudlnt have made that comment about the way they dress. im sorry terrasin.

I know im going against what i said earlier but, lots of people are christians, but dont show it in any way shape or form. An example of this would be Trent Reznor, who was and is still a christian, but you cant tell from anything he does.

All I see in this thread is judgement.

Ok, you're just being dumb. There's a difference between judging and stating a simple fact. Howard Stern is not a Christian, Eminem is not a Christian, the members of Slpknot are, as far as we can see, NOT Chrstians. It's not a sin to simply point out who in the media blatantly is and is not for God.

there's nothing wrong with discussing whether the message a band speaks is a christian message. You just have to use some tact and manners. If a duck is a duck than just say it's a duck, but say it nicely. With that in mind it is not judgemental to say that thier message is not that of a christian nature. Those who do listen to secular music wouldn't get so riled up about it if it were discussed politely. I think there is a difference tho when it comes to blowing it and purposefully writing, recording, and distributing a bad message. I've never listened to Slipnot and I don't plan to if they are secular. That's just my own conviction. I wont push it on you, but I also wont act like it doesn't exist either. If I heard a bad lyrick I would point it out, in a respectful manner. And that works both ways. Just because I have a conviction requardless of what it may or may not be I don't deserve a flaming for it just as you don't.

I was in the car, and I had this good thought...Yes, it is: You can probably not tell I am a Christian by the way I act. And I love the nice warm, ecouraging words going on! you know, dumb..nice builder uper word.. *thinks* builder uper?

Hey guys you can only judge a band on their content and lifestlye. If they do not glorify God in their lives and lyrics then they are wrong, it is as simple as that. Do you follow God or do you not. If they do not it would be wise to steer away from these groups, regardless of wether they have good music or not. Now if you are trying to witness to them okay, but most kids listening to music are not trying to witness to anyone. This is what being a christian is about making sure you do not confirm to the woprld. It doesnt say do not confirm to the world, unless they are a good group with good music. My advice Slipknot does not sound right stay away.

Ok, you're just being dumb. There's a difference between judging and stating a simple fact. Howard Stern is not a Christian, Eminem is not a Christian, the members of Slpknot are, as far as we can see, NOT Chrstians. It's not a sin to simply point out who in the media blatantly is and is not for God.


hey - no bashing members on this message board. thankyouverymuch.

and please, let's remember what will said above. this thread shouldn't exsist for the sake of bashing people.

if people are gonna keep attacking members on the board for sharing a different opinion then this thread will more than likely be closed. so please keep that in mind.

An example of this would be Trent Reznor, who was and is still a christian, but you cant tell from anything he does.

....lets not get into that one again.

CJ

My Personal Conviction - Do not listen to Slipknot

Reason - Their message messes with my head and I always feel heavily depressed afterward, no exceptions. This isn't a result of being 'spiritually weak' or being a 'babe in Christ', it's simply how I react to their music and the music of most secular metal artists.

I neither judge them nor condemn them or anyone who likes them. but I must avoid them.

My Personal Conviction - Do not listen to Slipknot

Reason - Their message messes with my head and I always feel heavily depressed afterward, no exceptions. This isn't a result of being 'spiritually weak' or being a 'babe in Christ', it's simply how I react to their music and the music of most secular metal artists.

I neither judge them nor condemn them or anyone who likes them. but I must avoid them.


it is good that you go with your personal convictions.

well, If the members of Slipknot are Christian then where are their fruit?

one quick thing,why do people even listen to slipknot, one kid told me she listends to slipknot because they make her sa about her boyfriend dying... this makes no sense to me...

listening to something because it makes you sad is like shooting yourself because it hurts

Given the thread title, I think it's safe to say that the thread was only created to start a little bashfest.. and it appears that everyone has stated their peace.

How bout we not do that again?