skilletosis
01-21-2005, 11:30 AM
This guy can really make a movie. He has a unique style all his own. The other night I watched The Village. What a cool movie. So now I have The Sixth Sence, Signs, and The Village. These movies all have something in common. For a few days after seeing the movie I'm still thinking about it. Realizing something about the story. Something that was never actually said in the movie but still was a part of it. Like with The Village, the next day I think to myself requarding Noahs parents. What selfish people, they chose to live where they couldn't provide any therapy for thier son who obviously could have benefited from it.
So anyhow what are some of the things you thought about after seeing the different movies by Night (or any other movie just cuz I think that it is interesting)? What's your favorite movie by Night? and any other thoughts....
M. Night Shayamalan has produced some outstanding films: especially Signs and the Sixth Sense. Unbreakable was all right, but not exceptional.
And then came The Village.
It was abysmal. The most disappointing movie of last year. The entire plot was a bore, the twists were lame, and the ending made me roll my eyes. Sorry, but it was a complete mess.
bobbi
01-21-2005, 02:28 PM
I really liked the Village. I thought that it was realistic, unlike most scary movies. I think that most people were upset because it was false advertised. I also loved The Sixth Sense. That was an amazing movie. But Signs I thought was just okay. Not great.
skilletosis
01-21-2005, 02:40 PM
ah bummer riz sorry you didn't care for it but I have to disagree on the plot. Now being a parent of a disabled child the Noah story line realy got me. And then I think-here's this professor who for his own self interest convinces a group of tragedy stricken people who's family members were victems of violent crimes into building a commune that they can safely live in. But in order to make it work they are "forced" to victemize thier own family members. They tried to leave the cruel world and just ended up making a cruel world of thier own.
As far as weaknesses I just didn't get the whole I know your color but I'm not gonna tell you what it is bit was dumb. Sure it showed she had some sort of extra sensory perception due to her blindness but what was his color anyhow. Why didn't they answer that question..
All in all I can say it wasn't as good as Signs and not quite as good as Sixth Sense but definately has it's own merits in the way you are left considering the story. Night seems to make his films for multiple viewings...
amodman
01-21-2005, 02:41 PM
Heh, I liked 'em all. Admittedly, the village slightly less than the others, but I still thought the village rocked. The Village wasn't about 'TRY TO GUESS THE ENDING!' it was about how they came about to the ending...It was a fun story told in an, as usual, great way. Excellent acting, writng, etc. IMO. I loved signs too, and the sixth sense and unbreakable. Though, personally, I thought the sixth sense was about as much a non-surprise ending as the village.
edit: skilletosis, stick a spoiler warning in your last post! Some people haven't seen it and are bad guessers!
skilletosis
01-21-2005, 02:45 PM
oh shoot I wasn't even thinking bout that....ooops
fire-inside
01-21-2005, 02:47 PM
The Village - Haven't yet seen it, but have heard more bad reviews than good.
Signs - Wow, that sucked.
Unbreakable - Wow, that sucked even worse!
The Sixth Sense - Hey guy, this is the only movie of yours I can stand to watch. I thought you were supposed to be revolutionary!
But I did love the Sixth Sense.
skilletosis
01-21-2005, 02:56 PM
and the firey one brings her wrath upon Night.... lolol
unshakeable15
01-21-2005, 02:58 PM
i thought Unbreakable was awesome. i loved the ideas in that movie. what a great story. the twist at the end (seems to be his staple) was good but it wasn't like Sixth Sense in that you needed that to make the movie work. this one is good even without that.
skilletosis
01-21-2005, 03:10 PM
call me simple minded but when I watched Sixth Sense I didn't realize it until the very end cuz I was caught up in the kids story...
skelfy
01-21-2005, 06:04 PM
I thought Signs was pretty dumb. It's the only movie I've seen by M. Night.
weebird20
01-22-2005, 01:06 PM
i really liked Signs......the way all those little things said and done throughout the movie all came together at the end and made sense....kinda like our lives.....things that happen that we might not get or understand at the time will come together at the end and become clear.....sorta like there is no such thing as a coincidence....everything has a reason type of thing......the movie just made me think about how everything we do, say, experience etc. if we trust in God, He will use them for good....we may not see it at the time but one day we will see the big picture and be able to trace how all those little things grew into something big...
sorry if i didnt make much sense guys.....but tis just how i felt the movie got to me....
bobbi
01-22-2005, 01:07 PM
I thought Signs was pretty dumb. It's the only movie I've seen by M. Night.
Finally...someone agrees with me! I didn't think it was DUMB, but it wasn't as good as The Sixth Sense. I was amazed by that movie.
amodman
01-22-2005, 03:37 PM
Completely vice versa for me... (bobbi)
skilletosis
01-22-2005, 06:18 PM
i really liked Signs......the way all those little things said and done throughout the movie all came together at the end and made sense....kinda like our lives.....things that happen that we might not get or understand at the time will come together at the end and become clear.....sorta like there is no such thing as a coincidence....everything has a reason type of thing......the movie just made me think about how everything we do, say, experience etc. if we trust in God, He will use them for good....we may not see it at the time but one day we will see the big picture and be able to trace how all those little things grew into something big...
sorry if i didnt make much sense guys.....but tis just how i felt the movie got to me....
You made complete sence. That's exactly what I thought about it also...
Alien Fox
01-22-2005, 07:52 PM
The Village was intriguing to me how people would seclude themselves to a village based from the early 1800s. I have a feeling the whole "color" thing was to have the audience guess what color he was, and it was obvious that it was the color the "monsters" favored-red (right?)
gothgirl
01-22-2005, 10:16 PM
I really like the camera angles that he uses in his movies and the symbolism of colors. It was really interesting how in the sixth sense when a dead person was about to appear on screen there was always red. I also really like the irony that was used in signs. I didn’t really like unbreakable. The village was awesome. The red symbolized the evil that they were running from and the yellow was for hope. I really liked the overhead shot of Ivy in the wood surrounded by the red berries. Hope admits the evil of the world.
disciple
01-22-2005, 10:22 PM
i really liked Signs......the way all those little things said and done throughout the movie all came together at the end and made sense....kinda like our lives.....things that happen that we might not get or understand at the time will come together at the end and become clear.....sorta like there is no such thing as a coincidence....everything has a reason type of thing......the movie just made me think about how everything we do, say, experience etc. if we trust in God, He will use them for good....we may not see it at the time but one day we will see the big picture and be able to trace how all those little things grew into something big...
sorry if i didnt make much sense guys.....but tis just how i felt the movie got to me....
It made perfect sense. I totally agree.
Signs was an awesome movie for that reason. What is so wrong with it? It was an awesome movie.
I thought Sixth Sense was pretty good... though, definitely not as good as Signs.
Unbreakable was a great movie too, I can't believe people don't like that movie.
The Village, though, was a disappointment. I liked the movie, but it was too misleading. If they hadn't have falsely advertised it, it would have been an even better movie.
skilletosis
01-23-2005, 10:05 AM
I'm not disagreeing with you. I would be interested on what you thought about the advertising. Could you give us an analysis on what the adds conveyed as opposed to what you got from watching the movie... In general I think that far too many movies show way to much of the movie in thier trailers. Especialy comedies, if it's a mediocre comedy it seems as tho all the funny stuff is in the trailer and you shouldn't bother going to see the movie.
rawkyafaceoff
01-23-2005, 10:12 AM
i have seen all of Shyamalan's movies except "Unbreakable". they are the best movies i have ever seen( after LOTR that is)!i keep finding myself thinking about them and what they mean long after i watch it. it's great how Night makes you stop and really think about things.
skilltroks
01-23-2005, 10:19 AM
I've only watch one of his works..that is The Sixth Sense ..it was really good.
amodman
01-23-2005, 01:29 PM
It made perfect sense. I totally agree.
Signs was an awesome movie for that reason. What is so wrong with it? It was an awesome movie.
I thought Sixth Sense was pretty good... though, definitely not as good as Signs.
Unbreakable was a great movie too, I can't believe people don't like that movie.
The Village, though, was a disappointment. I liked the movie, but it was too misleading. If they hadn't have falsely advertised it, it would have been an even better movie.
Or is it, perhaps, you weren't supposed to undrstand the depth of the lie until you'd seen the movie? Did you honestly expect the movie to come off as it appeared? Do any of M. Night's movies?
The only thing that misled me about the Village was that it appeared to be a worthwhile film from the previews.
Alas, it was horrible. Therefore, I was misled.
unshakeable15
01-23-2005, 05:13 PM
Unbreakable was a great movie too, I can't believe people don't like that movie.
i knew there was a reason i liked you. ;)
slickbass023
01-23-2005, 09:22 PM
Every body is dead on. lol. I just watched in a couple nights ago, yeah he is a genious. But I don't think any of his movies really have happy endings. He is just so different it's amazing.
The only thing that misled me about the Village was that it appeared to be a worthwhile film from the previews.
Alas, it was horrible. Therefore, I was misled.
It was a marketing mistake that ruined the movie. it was made to be a horror movie, then again is any horroe movie scary? but I blame the marketers, it was a well written movie, good plot twist...
We'll have to disagree on this one, I'm afraid. When I saw the preview, I likened it to Signs. I wasn't going into the movie expecting a "horror" flick; I also wasn't going into the movie expecting a pile of convoluted and irrational plotting that ended up in a completely unbelieveable and unforgivable twist. The idea that everything was merely a farce to protect the well-being of the people is a huge cop-out, in my opinion. I was thinking there'd be some supernatural construct within the woods; but that was not the case.
yes, but you have to admit you had no idea it was in present time...
That was the twist I didn't foresee, yes.
I didn't expect there to be two twists. Unfortunately, for this arguement, that particular twist was even worse than the first one. So it really didn't improve things.
it did have the worst acting when the guy got stabbed. It's like he forgot that he had gotten stabbed, and then he rememberd what the script said and got embarassed he forgot, so he just plopped over. I was the only one laughing in the theather at that point, but the acting was sooooo bad there...
does anyone find it funny they were all afraid of guys dressed in chicken suits...
disciple
01-25-2005, 06:50 PM
i knew there was a reason i liked you. ;)
haha, proof that i'm not nearly as annoying as some people gather i am. ;)
I was thinking there'd be some supernatural construct within the woods; but that was not the case. Isn't that being misled? 'Cause that's what I thought, too. Had there been something supernatural in the woods, I'd have liked it more.
I wasn't expecting a horror flick. I don't watch those. I was expecting something like Signs, something that resembled it in form.
And Bob, he did realize he'd been stabbed, he just stared at him with disbelief. I didn't mind that. I did, however, mind the nominal midleading. And they weren't chicken suits, they had the heads of warthogs. :P
amodman
01-25-2005, 07:07 PM
Could riz dig into the script anymore? ::] You have to be joking if you actually thought there was going to be something supernatural in the woods. With so much evidence to that stance, in an M. Night movie, that could've never been the end. I do enjoy fantasy more than modern day byull, but I still liked the Village's story.
Wha? Confused. I don't think I DUG into any script here. Recall what I've said here and in the Movie Thread: I guessed the first twist. That it was a farce. Get it? A farce. Which means that there was NOTHING supernatural going on and I had the feeling that that was the case. I had a bad feeling about it. And I was praying the prayer of all prayers that that wouldn't be the case, that the movie would steer in the more supernatural direction: like The Sixth Sense. It didn't. Yes, I know how Shayamalan's movies are constructed; however, I would have thought that something more sinister would have happened later on -- you know, instead of having the stupid village be a secluded hermit village, completely separate and unaware that it is the 21st century.
disciple
01-25-2005, 08:31 PM
(To make sure there won't be a heated argument...) Just take a breath... breeeeeeaaaathe.... ;)
He meant that you were 'getting into' what actually happened in the movie, at least that's what I gathered. I dunno, that was my guess. Oh well.
I think I'd be inclined to say Unbreakable was downright cool. :)
I like a good debate.
I should have the right to "get into" every movie I see, so that I can make a sound decision on whether I like it or not. To be sound in what I feel to be a good movie, I do that. Any intelligent movie-watcher should know what they're seeing and be able to analyze what's there. Nothing is wrong with that.
amodman
01-26-2005, 12:31 PM
I was reffering to the fact that there like 3 or 4 posts of yours in a row I read just ripping into the story! (ripping, as in tearing apart, criticizing in the worst way possible, etc. ::])
Well, I didn't like it, so I don't see why I shouldn't "rip" the story.
skilletosis
01-27-2005, 08:42 AM
however, I would have thought that something more sinister would have happened later on -- you know, instead of having the stupid village be a secluded hermit village, completely separate and unaware that it is the 21st century.
the sinister thing is the fact that they used Noah's death which they caused by the telling of thier stories to him. (He was clearly developmentaly disabled in some way.) They used his death to perpetuate the story they used to scare thier children into believing that there was a group of creatures that could at any time decide to break the so called "treaty" and invade the village and kill them. As if slaughtering animals and leaving them out for the children to find, and randomly using faked invasions wasn't enough of a mind job. They completely victemized the village for thier own selfishness. Which was what they were trying to get a away from... They didn't want to be victemized again...
skelfy
01-28-2005, 01:24 PM
I totally understood the movie. Loved the scenery and the feel of it. I guessed that the 'monsters weren't real' and once Ivy stepped out of the woods and near the truck of the Wildlife Preserve person - I got it.
Not the greatest movie in the world - but I didn't think it was extremely stupid. Oh well. There are worse movies.
yeh, theres always Spice World...
It was good plot development, and it was a clean movie, which is something not seen today...
skilletosis
01-29-2005, 10:12 AM
yeh, theres always Spice World...
It was good plot development, and it was a clean movie, which is something not seen today...
great point bob. it was a very good film. I was just as entertained by Nights films as many others that I've seen in fact alot more so. I could sit and watch these movies with my kids. For example I saw Total Recal years ago when it came out. Since then I've seen it quite a few times on cable but the swearing had been dubed over. So a couple of weeks ago we saw it at walmart for 5.50 and got it. We sat down and watched and for me I was mortified at the language. I apologized to my son and we agreed we wouldn't watch it again... The point is gratuitous swearing is just not needed; if the film is a quality film it will be fully enjoyed. I didn't even think about the no swearing in The Village until now. And I liked the way Mel Gibsons character wasn't comfortable with it and when he did it he sounded lame.. which was the way the scene was ment to be... props to Night on that..
BensMegaFan
01-29-2005, 08:01 PM
well maybe im the only one, but I saw underlying Christian themes in all of the movies (still workin on The Sixth Sense).
In The Village, you could relate it to Christians blocking themselves from the rest of the world. And Signs, well thats pretty simple. God never leaves you even in hard times. I saw a commentary and Night claimed to believe in Jesus. So, I don't know if its me or if he meant it.
Anyone going to go see Lady in the Water? I think it looks rather interesting and knowing Shyamaln, I think it will be. But there advertising it as a horror movie, just like they did with the Village, I hope that it's not the same case with this movie.
disciple
07-05-2006, 06:22 PM
Yeah, if they try to pull another one of those, it would be most concerning. That said, I would have to wait for it to come out on DVD, which will be a long time.
skilletosis
07-05-2006, 10:39 PM
Night's movies are always head trips and the trailers don't tell you much. In fact I don't know what it's really about until I see it. Can't wait, but I always wait till it comes out on dvd.
TheFireBreathes
07-05-2006, 10:53 PM
So yesterday I was reading about this Christian film marketing firm known as Grace Hill Media. Anyways, I looked at some of the films they have done and one of them is Signs. I have also heard elsewhere that this movie is Christian and/or has a Christian theme/message to it. I haven't seen it in a while. But what do you guys think? Did you notice anything Christain about it? (maybe besides Mel Gibson's character was a priest or whatever).
dawn of light
07-06-2006, 05:48 AM
I'll go see Lady in the Water, I'm really looking forward to it. I really like Shyamalan's movies although I was a little disappointed with the ending of the Village.
Yeah Signs did kind of have a Christian theme to it. It was kind of fatalistic though which I don't really agree with. It was kind of saying that eveything happens for a reason (the girl's water issue...) and while I was typing I was just reminded of the verse that say's "God works out everything for the good of those who love Him". Don't remember where it's found though.
skilletosis
07-06-2006, 08:46 AM
I'll go see Lady in the Water, I'm really looking forward to it. I really like Shyamalan's movies although I was a little disappointed with the ending of the Village.
Yeah Signs did kind of have a Christian theme to it. It was kind of fatalistic though which I don't really agree with. It was kind of saying that eveything happens for a reason (the girl's water issue...) and while I was typing I was just reminded of the verse that say's "God works out everything for the good of those who love Him". Don't remember where it's found though.
Absolutely Dawn. Another thing in it, the son has severe asthma which ultimately saves him from inhaling the poison. It was a story about a man who loses his faith over the death of his wife yet God shows him that He is there and yes everything happens for a reason. His faith is restored. Thus the verse "raise them in the way they should go and they will return to it" paraphrased.
I agree that the major theme in Signs has to do with faith, and its loss and restoration. Very vividly dealt with in the scene between Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix in the middle of the night. Such a great movie.
Definitely looking forward to seeing Lady in the Water. Let's hope it's good! The Village really was a very huge blow in which I almost did not recover...
I don't think the Village itself was a bad movie, it was quite interesting. It was just marketed wrong.
Dreaiscoolio
07-07-2006, 07:01 AM
i thought it kinda sucked, like, me and a friend left the movie theatre thinking that our money jst got stolen from us! and it wasnt even that scary! but it was wayyyyyy opposite for Signs, that FREAKED me, my dad, and brother! we couldnt sleep thinking there were aliens outside our house!
TheFireBreathes
07-07-2006, 10:47 AM
Well I think it's different for everyone. M. Night Shyamalan films for me are usually full of suspense that make me jump or cling on to my seat. I have not seen The Village yet but from what I here it wasn't scary. Maybe the purpose of the film wasn't to make you go to bed at night freaked out that something is going to kill you. But rather something that makes you jump or makes you think.
I don't think the Village itself was a bad movie
I still think it is. And it didn't completely have to do with the marketing. And I'm not going to continually explains why I disliked it again. I'm sure this thread has my explanations in detailed form.
Still excited about Lady in the Water. Not long now!
*sigh*
I saw it tonight.
I still don't know how I feel about it. It's ... way too complicated ... way more complicated than it needed to be. It had its funny parts, too. BUT it should have been more serious. A lot of scenes were awkward in that regard.
I'm not sure I liked it.
Not as horrible as The Village, but this movie is far, far, FAR below the brilliance of Signs and The Sixth Sense.
doormonkey
07-23-2006, 03:38 PM
*Random* I heard a rumor that Shyamalan might be directing a Harry Potter movie.
disciple
07-23-2006, 04:09 PM
Was it "from a friend" rumor or "on the Internet" rumor?
DustinRocks
08-01-2006, 10:34 PM
I think M. Night Had films aren't made for the everyday movie watcher but for people who see a differant meaning to life. My gf hated "Lady in The Water" but loved Corssroads with Brittney Spears. Lady In the Water is a beautiful film.
animeraven34
08-02-2006, 07:14 PM
I think M. Night Had films aren't made for the everyday movie watcher but for people who see a differant meaning to life. My gf hated "Lady in The Water" but loved Corssroads with Brittney Spears. Lady In the Water is a beautiful film.
For once, we agree.
I liked Lady in the Water, though in the theater there were two girls sitting behind me the entire movie whispering rather loudly about how they didn't understand the movie and about how much it sucked. So I turned around and told them to leave and then they started talking about the stupid kid sitting in front of them. :-P The movie didn't have Shyamalan's signautre twist ending, but it still kept me intrigued.
disciple
08-08-2006, 10:17 AM
LOL!! Gotta love theaters.
animeraven34
08-08-2006, 10:53 AM
I liked Lady in the Water, though in the theater there were two girls sitting behind me the entire movie whispering rather loudly about how they didn't understand the movie and about how much it sucked. So I turned around and told them to leave and then they started talking about the stupid kid sitting in front of them. :-P The movie didn't have Shyamalan's signautre twist ending, but it still kept me intrigued.
Seems like there are always giggly teenage girls like that when I go to the movies. Doesn't even matter what movie it is. ::]
Shon and I had a wanna be badass sitting behind us. He kept calling us faggots and throwing trash at the people in front of us, trying to start a fight. And yet when I stood up after the movie was over, he didn't have anything to say and quietly left the theater...
I'm of the opinion that no matter what Shyamalan does anymore he's gonna get criticized and blasted for it. If he copies Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, he'd take crap for doing the same thing over and over. He does something different, and he'd take crap for that. Come to think of it, I did read a review of Lady In The Water where the critic did both.
Well, I went in with an open mind, because I did like Signs and the Sixth Sense. So I know that Shyamalan can put out some good stuff...
Still.
Am I the only one on here who didn't really like Lady in the Water?
unshakeable15
08-11-2006, 10:43 AM
You didn't enjoy Unbreakable? That was a great movie!
i would answer your question, but i have yet to see it.
I thought Unbreakable was okay, but it definitely isn't a favourite of mine.
dawn of light
08-22-2006, 08:05 AM
I finally saw Lady in the Water
The story was wonderful but the movie had some cheesy parts that were supposed to be funny, that ruined it for me.
SPOILER:
What was that about the kid being the interpreter and reading the cereal boxes? That was really stupid and ruined the "mood" for me. I think M. Night Shyamalan is brilliant but this time I think he tried to hard to make it funny (maybe to appeal to more people?). I don't remember Signs, the Sixth Sense, or the Village trying to be funny. They're not supposed to funny, he should've just let the story be what it is.
I know I'm being a little negative about this right now, don't get me wrong, I really did like the movie. I was just a little disappointed because I thought that the movie should have focused more on the "bedtime story" part of it and not all the other things.
DarkestRose
06-13-2007, 07:23 PM
Has anyone seen any of his earlier movies, like Wide Awake? It's a drama/comedy instead of a suspense movie. I saw it back when in maybe fifth or sixth grade. It’s about a boy whose grandfather dies and his bereavement over it causes him to go through a spiritual journey of finding God. Throughout the movie various incidents and people from the all boys’ Catholic school that he attends fosters that journey. It’s a sweet movie.
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