Well, I have good news, for once. YAY! ;D :P

I met a wonderful young woman here by the name of Olivia (my 'Livi, the 'Liv) more than half a year ago, and we have been very close friends for as long as we've known each other.

But recently we have fallen in love. It has happened slowly the more we spoke on the phone together. She is a wonderful person.

She lives more than 1,000 miles away from me, all the way down in Florida. She's joining the Navy, leaving for 9-11 weeks of Basic Training in Pensacola, Florida. I hope to go visit her while she's there, or perhaps after she's graduated from it. After her month of paid leave, she leaves for Spain. She said she should have one month's paid leave after a year, but she has to spend a total of about 2 1/2 years there.

Her Mom isn't exactly a wonderful person all-around. Most certainly, she isn't all that unwise. She does have some prejudice against a certain peoples, but I think she might be growing out of that.

After fearing telling her Mom about us, 'Liv finally did today. She wasn't happy. To quote 'Liv, she was "ashamed" that she has started a relationship over the Internet. But she isn't taking away her Internet and cell phone, as we had feared she would do (thanks to prayers, mostly from my best friend). Her reaction is far more favorable, sure, but 'Liv seemed to be quite sad about it. Of course, I understand. We were hoping they'd at least be mostly indifferent, but I know that her Mom is probably hoping our relationship will fail because of the distance and the time we have to spend apart. It wouldn't be the first time she has hoped for her daughter's relationship to fail.

We love each other, very much. Since we've opened up to each other, good things have happened, and she has been sleeping better.

My Dad and Mom seem to have a good impression of 'Liv, and they most certainly support our choices and our relationship. My Dad even remains optimistic enough to have said, "You never know, you could end up in Spain." (You'd have to know him like I do to know what that means. :P) I am conforted by their support. I only wish 'Livi could be receiving the same support from her parents as well.

I'm asking for prayer, from the bottom of my heart all the way to the top. I don't want our relationship to fail, and we're both willing to keep working hard at the relationship.

I didn't come here looking for a lecture, but if you feel so compelled to lecture me yet again, feel free to do so. And sorry in advance for any spelling errors.

I'll be praying for you guys. :)

Yeah, I'll be praying for ya ;)

i think its awesome that you met someone!! i hope everything works out~and i will def. be praying!!!

wow, thats awsome. well, that u found her anyways. not awsome that ur relationship will be difficult. but u can have the confort that if its God's will (which i dont see y it wouldnt be.) theres nothing that can split u apart dispite the distance. & if u stick out the harships u know it will be more than worth it for the rest of eternity. love never dies...ill pray for ya

><sarah><

ill pray for ya....just wanted to give some words of encouragement....this is by rk on they're new cd and it helps me through tough times....when the burden seems to much to bear, remember the end will justify the pain it took to get us there....just look to god and you'll get through....and maybe you'll end up in spain ;D

Umm..Aren't you hispanic? Do you speak Spanish? Because if you did...you could easily go visit her in Spain, well I mean you would still have travel, etc..but the language part would be down nicely! There's always study abroad too, depending on your major of course.

Umm..Aren't you hispanic? Do you speak Spanish? Because if you did...you could easily go visit her in Spain, well I mean you would still have travel, etc..but the language part would be down nicely! There's always study abroad too, depending on your major of course.
Yes, I am. But I speak so little Spanish it's surprising for most people.

Yes, my choices seem to be joining the Navy or studying abroad... of course, my majors would be psychology and writing, so I don't know how that works out.

And, well, I'm not exactly the poster boy for physical activity.

haha, u dont have to be. God will work everything out so that u wont have to torture urself & join the navy. He is good, jsut wait & see wat he'll do. it'll prob surpirse the crap outta you cause...He always does that to me :D

You've got my prayers. I am in a similar situation, so I know how it feels. Just leave it to God; it'll work out.

have you guys ever met in person? phone and internet are different from one on one. just wondering. no, i am not going to lecture. just a little concerned because i've seen this kind of relationship, based out of loneliness, spiral into something disasterous. and i don't want you to go through what the same thing i saw happening to a good friend.

her mom is just concerned, more than likely. it's easy to get attached to someone you interact with a lot. but until you meet in person and hang out with friends and such, i don't feel you really know the person all that well. some people click better online than in person, for example.

i will be praying for His perfect will to be done and that He will lead you and guide you in all truth. that you will hear His voice and listen.

(not saying this as a lecture or to discourage...just some wisdom to consider...)

Don't worry, Tracy, I didn't expect anything less from you. :P

Of course we haven't met in person... we actually were planning on meeting before we started falling in love (I don't feel comfortable using the term "dating" for this very reason) but her Basic Training got in the way.

I appreciate your concern and understand what you're saying. I don't think her Mom is only concerned; 'Liv says that from time to time she can be a very bitter person. Surely, though, both you and I know she'll get a little less bitter about it and perhaps will stop yelling at her about it long enough to show a loving sort of concern.

Yes, that's exactly what we're praying for, believe me. So far, we seem to click better (I kinda just noticed a pun in that, lol) over the phone than online. Even though I do get my words out better online, that's just because my fumbled words are replaced by typos. :P I wouldn't be surprised if we do get along better in person, though.

I do feel comfortable saying that we feel God has guided us together, for a reason we are both asking for Him to reveal. Trust me when I say we're not "jumping the gun" on this. We aren't diving straight into something that we can't get out of.

So far, my plans are to go down and visit her before she leaves for Spain so we can see just how well we "click" before I make any plans that are related to Spain (but I am open to suggestions, because I'd rather have more time to think over the options.) Personally, I think we'll get along rather well, but I am remaining open-minded to every possibility, as I always do. Of course, I am not about to let it get in the way of our closeness (because if I'm always distant due to overcautiousness, there's no way the relationship would survive in any situation.)

Make sense?

I hope it all works out for you AD.

Prayers

J3

Well D I think to myself what would I say if she were my daughter or you were my son. She is getting ready to embark on a chapter in her life where she is going to do an enormous amount of growing up. Learing about commitment, honor, loyalty, duty, discipline, responsibility, etc. I come from a military family and they all pretty much have said the same thing when they got thier first leave and came home for a visit "all my friends are just the same as they were in high school, they're immature, they have no real concept of responsibility". Right now isn't the best time for her to be beginning a relationship not just because she is joining the military, but because she knows she will be gone for a long time. Depending on what she's enlisted to do her training will be very intense. So how this relates to you is whatever you do if you truely are interested in pursueing a relationship you need to put yourself in possition both educationally and careerwise to be able to be a "husband". I'm not going to say "join the military" but it wouldn't be a bad idea when you consider that she is doing "on the job" training, getting career and life experience quickly. Joining the military would get you out of the corn fields and into a career. You'll be able to travel (my bro has been to, NC, Hawaii, Italy, Louisanna, back to Hawaii, Iraq, and back to Hawaii, now his job was training soldiers in field manuevers so it's no surprise he went to Iraq). If you want to be where both you and her are at the same stage in life enlisting may be the best option. Now if you two don't end up together you will still come out on top when it comes to the fact that you will have prepared yourself for life.

I say good luck and God bless, whether or not you two end up together.

Make sense?

yup. :) and i wish you both the best. whether it developes into a good solid friendship or goes beyond that. :)

Thank you, Tracy.

I have seriously considered joining in, but before I do that (and toss away a chance at a good college that's willing to do whatever it takes to let me in) I am planning on going down to meet her so we can see where this relationship is going. Because any good relationship takes work.

Well D I think to myself what would I say if she were my daughter or you were my son. She is getting ready to embark on a chapter in her life where she is going to do an enormous amount of growing up. Learing about commitment, honor, loyalty, duty, discipline, responsibility, etc. I come from a military family and they all pretty much have said the same thing when they got thier first leave and came home for a visit "all my friends are just the same as they were in high school, they're immature, they have no real concept of responsibility". Right now isn't the best time for her to be beginning a relationship not just because she is joining the military, but because she knows she will be gone for a long time. Depending on what she's enlisted to do her training will be very intense. So how this relates to you is whatever you do if you truely are interested in pursueing a relationship you need to put yourself in possition both educationally and careerwise to be able to be a "husband". I'm not going to say "join the military" but it wouldn't be a bad idea when you consider that she is doing "on the job" training, getting career and life experience quickly. Joining the military would get you out of the corn fields and into a career. You'll be able to travel (my bro has been to, NC, Hawaii, Italy, Louisanna, back to Hawaii, Iraq, and back to Hawaii, now his job was training soldiers in field manuevers so it's no surprise he went to Iraq). If you want to be where both you and her are at the same stage in life enlisting may be the best option. Now if you two don't end up together you will still come out on top when it comes to the fact that you will have prepared yourself for life.

"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." :P

'Liv told me once over the phone something about Great Lakes, but today she confirmed that she'll be doing nine weeks basic training in Great Lakes, Illinois, which is only 300 miles from where I live, so I'll be going to see her graduate before she goes down to Pensacola, Florida.

It's just good to know that I'll only have to drive 300 miles to see her graduation, but then I'll be able to visit her in Pensacola when I do get the chance. I can most certainly do 5 1/2 hours of driving.

I'm so glad she clarified that, lol. She never did mention Great Lakes but once, and that was a long while ago over a shoddy connection. :P

"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." :P


Not neccesarily, I come from a military family, but I did not enlist. However I do have a great sense of patriotism and a great respect for military service.

'Liv told me once over the phone something about Great Lakes, but today she confirmed that she'll be doing nine weeks basic training in Great Lakes, Illinois, which is only 300 miles from where I live, so I'll be going to see her graduate before she goes down to Pensacola, Florida.

It's just good to know that I'll only have to drive 300 miles to see her graduation, but then I'll be able to visit her in Pensacola when I do get the chance. I can most certainly do 5 1/2 hours of driving.

Correction: I will plot my own course and NOT head through Chicago. I don't know why Yahoo! would have me drive through the center of Chicago, right past O'Hare to get to the Base. ::] The traffic would be unsightly.

However I do have a great sense of patriotism and a great respect for military service.
Well, I don't have a "great sense of patriotism". I don't really care what country I happen to live in, I just try and live my life. And I don't automatically have great respect for someone just because they're in the military.

it is def. crowded in chicago....my brother was in the navy and we had to go to the same place for his grad. and traffic was crazy....stay out of the city if you can....hope you get there ok....and i hope it goes good.... ;D

it is def. crowded in chicago....my brother was in the navy and we had to go to the same place for his grad. and traffic was crazy....stay out of the city if you can....hope you get there ok....and i hope it goes good.... ;D
Yes. My parents went to Chicago once. They said it was hellishly crowded and it took hours to get a small distance. So I definitely know to take a different route. Beside that, I know to avoid big cities when going on a trip, unless the stop is desperately needed.

Well, I don't have a "great sense of patriotism". I don't really care what country I happen to live in, I just try and live my life. And I don't automatically have great respect for someone just because they're in the military.

I think that is really sad that you feel such apathy towards the United States. I find it ironic that you don't really care what country you live in. I imagine that if you lived in another country, you might care. Whether or not I agree with the war in Iraq, I still respect those who would be willing to die for the United States. At least they have committment and interest.

I think that is really sad that you feel such apathy towards the United States. I find it ironic that you don't really care what country you live in. I imagine that if you lived in another country, you might care. Whether or not I agree with the war in Iraq, I still respect those who would be willing to die for the United States. At least they have committment and interest.
Ok, first off, how is that ironic? Second, there's a difference between apathy and considering something unimportant. So, you'll have to forgive me if I consider serving God more important than serving the government. Third, when did I ever mention the war in Iraq? Finally, I do have "commitment and interest" as you put it; they just happen to be far removed from government/military/civil service. If God called me to go into the military or something, I'd do it and do it gladly. But such as it is, God's called me to other things.

Oh, and just so everyone knows: 1) One of my closest friends has joined the Air Force. He leaves for basic training in October. 2) Several years ago I considered joining the Marines. I wanted to be a sniper, and the Marine Corps. snipers are some of the best in the world.

now back to Disciple and his internet "Love Connection." ;)

seriously, try to keep the debates/discussions/arguments to a minimum in the Garden. :)

now back to Disciple and his internet "Love Connection." ;)
LOL! So cheesy ::] I.... LIKE IT! ;D

Yeah, 'Liv and I have been talking a lot, since she heads on up to Basic Training in five days. After I meet up with her for her graduation, and possibly after me visiting her once in Pensacola, I'm probably going to go to college (unless something unforeseen happens), and if, after our meetings, we decide we want to keep going forward with our relationship, she'll be visiting me stateside once a year, and I'll be [trying to] visit her during the summer, if I can. I'm not entirely sure how long she'll be gone. But, it's not like we aren't used to the long distance thing (as she delicately put it.)

Of course, I am ready to do whatever God wishes for me, and I am also ready to do whatever it takes for 'Liv and for our relationship. We are taking it slowly, however, because neither of us wants to hurt the other... (and, trust me, her pain -- to me -- is worse than any torture that I could endure.) Of course (yes, it's my second most-overused term, below "anyway/s" :P), this probably just sounds inane to some of you.

I do want to say that, though whether or not two people are meant to be together is surely the cause for the rise and fall for every relationship, no relationship survives without work. The stronger the relationship would be, the more work it takes, no matter the type of work (financial, and so on). Of course (there it is again :P), technically speaking, you were never meant to be together if you weren't willing to do the work it would take. But, I digress.

dude, disciple, that's awesome. i'll be praying for u2 whenever i can.

Just here to remind you all she leaves for Basic Training tomorrow.

Am I annoying yet? :P

Very >:( ;) heheh

Wow, *coughcoughchokecough* I didn't realize she left that soon. I'll be praying for her. Wow, for some reason I thought she was leaving next February, wonder why? Hmmm.... oh well, heh, my point is that I'll pray for her while she's in there, that she stays true to God, and no matter what she goes through, that she'll keep her heart, eyes, mind, and soul on God at all times and that He'll give her his strength, peace, and love.

LOL! YESSSS!! :evil: ;)

Thanks, man. I couldn't have asked for better prayers myself. ;) :P ;D

When is her graduation because the great lakes base is an hour from my house, and well, the fastest way to get to the base would be to cut up north and then go straight east. That way you completely avoid chicago and you can come visit me. I wouls also like to go meet her.

When is her graduation because the great lakes base is an hour from my house, and well, the fastest way to get to the base would be to cut up north and then go straight east. That way you completely avoid chicago and you can come visit me. I wouls also like to go meet her.
Darn! You found out my late birthday present. ;)

Yes, I was planning on visiting you sometime while I was over there. I will ask 'Liv if she'd like to hang out with you as well when she sends me her first letter. :) It would be a good lot of fun, I'm sure, as she'd get sick of seeing my ugly face too much after a while. ;)

Her graduation is in the beginning of November. First (or maybe second) week. I'm visiting her for the weekend before and the graduation itself.

(Darn, I was hoping I could keep it a surprise and tell you on your birthday. ;))

And, yes, I was planning on going North through Waterloo and cutting East, like my parents do when they go to visit our family over in Illinois.

No use in creating a new thread. :P

Liv and I broke up a couple weeks ago. She said she couldn't handle the relationship (maybe since we probably won't see each other for more time than we'd both care).

I see this was meant to happen. As a result, I have become wiser, less naïve. Letting her go was the hard part for me, but from here on out it's just my mind eventually easing on.

But, of course, now my future feels all the more blank than ever. I can barely see one day into the future. Of course, it also means I'm back to who I was before that entire miracle of a relationship happened, except a little wiser, a little more silent.

I'm sure it didn't help that when I went to visit her, her mom refused to do anything to assist my staying the weekend. You see, we did not know that the entire Chicago area contained hotels that all refused checks, except one that was full. Skipping over a long adventure that God helped us through, we (my older sister and I) managed to find a hotel room, though it drained my Dad's credit card. I did not enjoy seeing Liv cry because her mom was yelling at her over the phone, telling her that it's not smart to even be going out with me. Way to make your daughter cry again, Super Mom.

Yes, I know, that rude statement probably earns me no brownie points here. But I can't help it that it makes me feel bitter to be hated by someone who's never even talked to me, never even bothered to find out who I really am.

The trip was altogether a good one though, except for the fact that we weren't allowed to be seen even holding hands in public, for fear of her being repremanded (I dunno if I spelled that right, I don't have my dictionary with me) back at the base. But anyways, yeah, that was probably the best weekend of my life.

Yeah, love was never a problem.

Anyways, we're still the good friends we were before, and she's back to her pained, lonely self. I'm doing what I can to help her.

I was a shattered excuse for a living thing the three weeks after she broke up with me, but eventually I got over my love for the pain and brought it before God. He's brought me peace in this matter, and helped me to let go, for the most part. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if we ended up getting together again one day, but that might be the hopeless romantic in me speaking.

I feel like I have fallen from glory. I have. I didn't appreciate what I had before, and now I've lost it. It always happens to me. Since I was born, I've been losing and losing, but I've gotten used to that now. Heck, I lose a lot, I might as well sit back and let what I will lose "get lost". :P

I come before you all a humble, broken shell of a man barely able to hold the weight of his own existence. I hope my presence here will once again help people and save lives. If I cannot save my own life, why not the lives of others? I might as well try while I still have a life to do so.

So, I ask that you pray for Liv, that she can rise up above me like a phoenix and live her life in the glory of God. She has become slightly detached from Him in her pain, but I asked her to once again live for Him, so I pray that those words will take effect.

And don't worry about me, I was doing fine before her and I got together, so I should do just fine without her again. :P

Except for not knowing where I'm headed... that's the only thing that bothers me... usually God opens up to me ahead of time what my future may be as it is, but as it is, I see no future.

No use in creating a new thread. :P

Liv and I broke up a couple weeks ago. She said she couldn't handle the relationship (maybe since we probably won't see each other for more time than we'd both care).

I see this was meant to happen. As a result, I have become wiser, less naïve. Letting her go was the hard part for me, but from here on out it's just my mind eventually easing on.

But, of course, now my future feels all the more blank than ever. I can barely see one day into the future. Of course, it also means I'm back to who I was before that entire miracle of a relationship happened, except a little wiser, a little more silent.

I'm sure it didn't help that when I went to visit her, her mom refused to do anything to assist my staying the weekend. You see, we did not know that the entire Chicago area contained hotels that all refused checks, except one that was full. Skipping over a long adventure that God helped us through, we (my older sister and I) managed to find a hotel room, though it drained my Dad's credit card. I did not enjoy seeing Liv cry because her mom was yelling at her over the phone, telling her that it's not smart to even be going out with me. Way to make your daughter cry again, Super Mom.

Yes, I know, that rude statement probably earns me no brownie points here. But I can't help it that it makes me feel bitter to be hated by someone who's never even talked to me, never even bothered to find out who I really am.

The trip was altogether a good one though, except for the fact that we weren't allowed to be seen even holding hands in public, for fear of her being repremanded (I dunno if I spelled that right, I don't have my dictionary with me) back at the base. But anyways, yeah, that was probably the best weekend of my life.

Yeah, love was never a problem.

Anyways, we're still the good friends we were before, and she's back to her pained, lonely self. I'm doing what I can to help her.

I was a shattered excuse for a living thing the three weeks after she broke up with me, but eventually I got over my love for the pain and brought it before God. He's brought me peace in this matter, and helped me to let go, for the most part. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if we ended up getting together again one day, but that might be the hopeless romantic in me speaking.

I feel like I have fallen from glory. I have. I didn't appreciate what I had before, and now I've lost it. It always happens to me. Since I was born, I've been losing and losing, but I've gotten used to that now. Heck, I lose a lot, I might as well sit back and let what I will lose "get lost". :P

I come before you all a humble, broken shell of a man barely able to hold the weight of his own existence. I hope my presence here will once again help people and save lives. If I cannot save my own life, why not the lives of others? I might as well try while I still have a life to do so.

So, I ask that you pray for Liv, that she can rise up above me like a phoenix and live her life in the glory of God. She has become slightly detached from Him in her pain, but I asked her to once again live for Him, so I pray that those words will take effect.

And don't worry about me, I was doing fine before her and I got together, so I should do just fine without her again. :P

Except for not knowing where I'm headed... that's the only thing that bothers me... usually God opens up to me ahead of time what my future may be as it is, but as it is, I see no future.
well, that sucks! well, ill pray for ya, and hopefully things will get better!

^stop citing the whole post to save room please

I'm sorry A.D. Never being in a relationship I can't say I know how it feels. But I will keep you guys in my thoughts.

Well, it is quite the right moment to sing the song "love stinks" from the wedding singer. ok ok ok, not funny.

Anyways, heart ache is not easy, nor small(sorry for stating the obvious). You're strong for the way you are handeling this. But, at the same time, don't forget about the hopeless romantic inside nor push him to the back. We all need to have a hopless romantic part of us and don't let that part of you harden through this. It is so easy to become cynical in things like this, and although I can't see you gettin hard on the inside, I must mention it because it would kill me to see it happen in you. Don't give up on your hopless romantic as well as your good sense. :)

"Ain't it something to know you're lost??" That is from a Blindside song. Such a great song, really. It doesn't completly apply to your situation seeing as though this is not something that was your fault and not a time where your "pinhole black velvet navigation-skills got lost with the fading light"(another quote from the song). But the point of the song is that the writer has no idea where he's going and it's the best thing that ever happened to him. This is when God can take over even more than He already has.

It's a beautiful thing because when this happens, God does things and/or put us into situations that you would normally abhor. However, once God does it, and you look back..it was just so good and so God. We all think we know what we like and where we want to go, but then God does somthing that seems completly out of whack. It is these moments that shape you the most deeply. So deep, that people may not even notice unless they talk to you extensively. Worry not my freind, as unconfortable as it is, you'll be happy when it's over. (Ha! listen to me...as if I didn't go half nuts with stubbornness when God did this to me the last time).

This just may be the beginning of an awsome era in your life. It is when we are weak, that He can be strong (2 Corinthians 12:9). Meanwile...stay as strong as you can. I'm praying for you.

><sarah><

Yes, knowing all of that (already :P) is comforting for me. :)

i'm really sorry. I'll be praying for you!

No use in creating a new thread. :P

Liv and I broke up a couple weeks ago. She said she couldn't handle the relationship (maybe since we probably won't see each other for more time than we'd both care).

I see this was meant to happen. As a result, I have become wiser, less naïve. Letting her go was the hard part for me, but from here on out it's just my mind eventually easing on.I know how this feels , disciple.

But, of course, now my future feels all the more blank than ever. I can barely see one day into the future. Of course, it also means I'm back to who I was before that entire miracle of a relationship happened, except a little wiser, a little more silent. Once again, we are on the same level.

I'm sure it didn't help that when I went to visit her, her mom refused to do anything to assist my staying the weekend. You see, we did not know that the entire Chicago area contained hotels that all refused checks, except one that was full. Skipping over a long adventure that God helped us through, we (my older sister and I) managed to find a hotel room, though it drained my Dad's credit card. I did not enjoy seeing Liv cry because her mom was yelling at her over the phone, telling her that it's not smart to even be going out with me. Way to make your daughter cry again, Super Mom. I totally think this is a pathetic method of parenting. It is one of the most ravaging things to walk through life without the support of your parents.

Yes, I know, that rude statement probably earns me no brownie points here. But I can't help it that it makes me feel bitter to be hated by someone who's never even talked to me, never even bothered to find out who I really am. I used to be against interracial relationships, but now, I really see the light. While I prefer white girls, I generally don't have anything against an interracial relationship, especially if it is God's will, although I would still advise steering away from it for this very reason. People don't get to know you as a person. They see you as black or white or hispanic or whatever. It is sad she would probably rather her daughter date a bad white person than a really good hispanic person.

The trip was altogether a good one though, except for the fact that we weren't allowed to be seen even holding hands in public, for fear of her being repremanded (I dunno if I spelled that right, I don't have my dictionary with me) back at the base. But anyways, yeah, that was probably the best weekend of my life.

Yeah, love was never a problem.

Anyways, we're still the good friends we were before, and she's back to her pained, lonely self. I'm doing what I can to help her. This is where you should be truly thankful. My past two relationships have ended quite badly. The first one, I broke up with her, and never called her back. The second one, she dumped me, and refuses to be friends or even speak to me. The first one I didn't care too much about, she put me through enough. The second one however, I still wish we could be friends. She was an amazing girl.

I was a shattered excuse for a living thing the three weeks after she broke up with me, but eventually I got over my love for the pain and brought it before God. He's brought me peace in this matter, and helped me to let go, for the most part. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if we ended up getting together again one day, but that might be the hopeless romantic in me speaking. Yet again we are on the same line. I was heartbroken for about 2 weeks after the second girl left me. I still sort of am. I feel incomplete. But I always have, so I'm just back to my old self, checking out new prospects.

I feel like I have fallen from glory. I have. I didn't appreciate what I had before, and now I've lost it. It always happens to me. Since I was born, I've been losing and losing, but I've gotten used to that now. Heck, I lose a lot, I might as well sit back and let what I will lose "get lost". :P I swear we are kindred spirits in a non-gay way.

I come before you all a humble, broken shell of a man barely able to hold the weight of his own existence. I hope my presence here will once again help people and save lives. If I cannot save my own life, why not the lives of others? I might as well try while I still have a life to do so. We differ here, as I really don't think I have much to offer to the community.

So, I ask that you pray for Liv, that she can rise up above me like a phoenix and live her life in the glory of God. She has become slightly detached from Him in her pain, but I asked her to once again live for Him, so I pray that those words will take effect. I will remember both you and her in my prayers.

And don't worry about me, I was doing fine before her and I got together, so I should do just fine without her again. :P

Except for not knowing where I'm headed... that's the only thing that bothers me... usually God opens up to me ahead of time what my future may be as it is, but as it is, I see no future.


There is nothing I can tell you I'm sure you don't even know. God has everything happen for a reason. What I can tell you, is you are not alone. I have experienced alot of the same things you have, and we ( PH.org community) should be able to lean on one another as a Body of Christ.

I saw my second ex girlfriend today at walmart with our mutal friend. The knife in my stomach that I had grown numb to was twisted. I literally began to sweat and feel sick, like I was about to throw up. I guess there are still feelings underneath I thought I didn't have. It was a painful experience. Like I said man, treasure your friendship with that girl. I cannot put in enough words how I wish I was still friends with my ex g/fs

^dude thats totally how i felt when i saw my ex bf(at walmart go figure) you just have to make a choice every day whether your going to let it take control of your day and make you sad or if your gonna give it to God.~~hang in there disciple..."weeping may indure for a night but joy cometh in the morning" joy will come God won't let you down...i will say a prayer for you!...and im glad your posting here again!

I saw my second ex girlfriend today at walmart with our mutal friend. The knife in my stomach that I had grown numb to was twisted. I literally began to sweat and feel sick, like I was about to throw up. I guess there are still feelings underneath I thought I didn't have. It was a painful experience. Like I said man, treasure your friendship with that girl. I cannot put in enough words how I wish I was still friends with my ex g/fs
Ouch.

My heart goes out to her, though. She is going to have the loneliest Christmas there is, especially since she's lost her cell phone service now.

have you guys ever met in person? phone and internet are different from one on one. just wondering. no, i am not going to lecture. just a little concerned because i've seen this kind of relationship, based out of loneliness, spiral into something disasterous. and i don't want you to go through what the same thing i saw happening to a good friend.

her mom is just concerned, more than likely. it's easy to get attached to someone you interact with a lot. but until you meet in person and hang out with friends and such, i don't feel you really know the person all that well. some people click better online than in person, for example.

i will be praying for His perfect will to be done and that He will lead you and guide you in all truth. that you will hear His voice and listen.

(not saying this as a lecture or to discourage...just some wisdom to consider...)
I am glad to read this reassurance. Sorry to everyone else for my side post... but... Seriously. I have almost gotten into those kinds of relationships many many times. And I am feeling a pull for this other girl now.

Glad to remember what I should be thinking.

First off you did the right thing asking for prayers, and I hope you continue to talk to God and he will guide you to make the right choices. I hope you and this special person of yours share and value one another and do not take advantage of that gift. I also pray for you and that you just keep talking to God because he is the one who knows the answers.

I hope you and this special person of yours share and value one another and do not take advantage of that gift.
Did you read the whole thread? Just asking. I may just be tired, but it doesn't sound like you did, 'cause that "special person" is dating someone else right now.

Wow, focus... focusssss...

Wow, focus... focusssss...
I tell myself that exact thing a lot. :D

Focus on peanut butter?

I only do that when I'm eating it. :D

But let's not derail this thread. :P

Sorry. Internet relationships...That's how my cousin met his wife.

ya sorry, I kinda read the first page then decided to post. Come on once a thread gets past one page thats a lot for one person to read.

ya sorry, I kinda read the first page then decided to post. Come on once a thread gets past one page thats a lot for one person to read.
That's no problem, just thought I'd make sure you're up to date. :)