hey i'm a real big metal fan i listen to a little bit of metal out of christian metal but my favrout metal band is extol yeahhhh!!!!

I listen to Metallica, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and AC/DC.

i must admit that i don't listen to a lot of metal, but the metal i listen to is newer metal. i'm a big fan of children of bodom and finntroll. there's a sweet local metal band i love too, but i can't spell their name.

ok, i listen to alot of christian metal like: living sacrifice, extol soul embraced, hatse the day and stuff like that!!! i love extol too!!!

metal rocks... :) secular and christian alike.

I like metal.

thanks for sharing guys i like extol living sacrifice and killswitch engage and i hate gangster rap and pop

i like some metal...extol,metallica,haste the day.....

isn't As I Lay Dying metal??

duh!!!!
but i don't really think as i lay dying is a cgristian band.. i really haven't found any lyrics that talk about jesus or anything related to christianity..

metal is cool, i prefer classic hair metal and thrash and the older style of metal overall better... but i like some nu metal its cool

duh!!!!
but i don't really think as i lay dying is a cgristian band.. i really haven't found any lyrics that talk about jesus or anything related to christianity..

That must mean they're not Christian. If they don't talk about Jesus at all, they certainly can't be Christians even outside of the band.

hehe...

my personal faves are Haste the Day, Zao, and ... something else that I can't remember right now. ::]

That must mean they're not Christian. If they don't talk about Jesus at all, they certainly can't be Christians even outside of the band.
You just gave a strong argument against Switchfoot and Relient K and the like. You may have lost points with those that don't agree with you.

That must mean they're not Christian. If they don't talk about Jesus at all, they certainly can't be Christians even outside of the band.
actually thats a stupid philosophy, they can be a Christian outside of the band...If you are Christian it DOES NOT mean that you have to play Christain music. And you cant just go and say that they cant be Christians. You dont know, and wont know until Christ returns. Until then, just pray to God that they are

actually thats a stupid philosophy, they can be a Christian outside of the band...If you are Christian it DOES NOT mean that you have to play Christain music. And you cant just go and say that they cant be Christians. You dont know, and wont know until Christ returns. Until then, just pray to God that they are
You just gave a strong argument against Switchfoot and Relient K and the like. You may have lost points with those that don't agree with you.

Sarcasm is very awesome. That's what I was trying to use in the most obvious way possible.

Oh my gosh... when will you guys learn to remember that Greg is an extremely sarcastic guy?? He makes sarcastic comments to get a point across and you guys burn him like there's no tommorrow! ANYONE paying attention could easily sense the sarcasm in his post!

Oh my gosh... when will you guys learn to remember that Greg is an extremely sarcastic guy?? He makes sarcastic comments to get a point across and you guys burn him like there's no tommorrow! ANYONE paying attention could easily sense the sarcasm in his post!
haha i whould says omething about greg but im gonna keep my mouth shut. i like haste the day there a good metal band i get to see them saturday.

just cause it aint christain music dont mean u can like it, as long as u dont do some of the stuff they talk about. i like metal, but not any of that old crap. i like stuff like Todays Greatest Pain, and From First To Last. Chevelle and A Perfect Circle are always good too. and u can be a christain but not say anything about it in your band. im a christain but we dont ever say anything about jesus or god in our songs. (cause were not all christain, Karst the drummer dont even believe in anything like that)

just cause it aint christain music dont mean u can like it, as long as u dont do some of the stuff they talk about. i like metal, but not any of that old crap.

Too bad old metal is far superior to what we have today.

i like stuff like Todays Greatest Pain, and From First To Last. Chevelle and A Perfect Circle are always good too. and u can be a christain but not say anything about it in your band. im a christain but we dont ever say anything about jesus or god in our songs. (cause were not all christain, Karst the drummer dont even believe in anything like that)

Maybe before you write songs you should learn how to type correctly?

haha i whould says omething about greg but im gonna keep my mouth shut. i like haste the day there a good metal band i get to see them saturday.

Go ahead and say it. :)

any of you heard of blindside theyre not metal but theyre good

Yeah, we have a thread on them somewhere... *Goes off to look*

Later...
Yup, I got it... 12 pages, too... *Evil laugh* (http://www.panheads.org/boards/showthread.php?t=3130)

I like metal the best out of all music. my friends think I'm crazy and turning goth or something, but, you know what? I'm not, and they can deal with it! HA! i put up with their so-called christian r&b and rap, so they can put up with my demon hunter! well anyways, i like metal, secular and christian, and yeah, i really can't think of some famous bands i really like...so.....that's it!

-Savannah-

You sound like me, Savannah... :D

I like metal the best out of all music. my friends think I'm crazy and turning goth or something, but, you know what? I'm not, and they can deal with it! HA! i put up with their so-called christian r&b and rap, so they can put up with my demon hunter! well anyways, i like metal, secular and christian, and yeah, i really can't think of some famous bands i really like...so.....that's it!

-Savannah-

Metal isn't goth music. Music talking about slitting your wrists, and feelin sad for yourself is.

haha yeah...i don't associate metal with goth at all...and i don't really associate slitting wrists with any "scene"...it's just the kind of thing that happens, it doesn't matter who you are. i don't even really know what type of music in general goths listen to. i guess when i think of metal i think of...children of bodom...which makes me think of...hmm...metalheads?

haha yeah...i don't associate metal with goth at all...and i don't really associate slitting wrists with any "scene"...it's just the kind of thing that happens, it doesn't matter who you are. i don't even really know what type of music in general goths listen to. i guess when i think of metal i think of...children of bodom...which makes me think of...hmm...metalheads?

Hmm, when I think of metal, I think of Metallica, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, essentially the bands that define the genre.

Hey has anyone heard the new album from "Becoming the archtype". It's called terminate damnation and through listening to it the guitar work is very awesome. The sound of the band sounds like 18th century death metal. It's like Bach himself was ressurected and started a christian death metal band. The songs themselves aren't that great but as I said the guitars are awesome! There are also some unexpected instruments like pipe organs, pianos and a harpsichord. Also their Album cover is pretty imagianative. It features some sort of war between good and evil and is amazing to look at. you should check it out.

Hey has anyone heard the new album from "Becoming the archtype". It's called terminate damnation and through listening to it the guitar work is very awesome. The sound of the band sounds like 18th century death metal. It's like Bach himself was ressurected and started a christian death metal band. The songs themselves aren't that great but as I said the guitars are awesome! There are also some unexpected instruments like pipe organs, pianos and a harpsichord. Also their Album cover is pretty imagianative. It features some sort of war between good and evil and is amazing to look at. you should check it out.

If you like Metal like that, try this Italian speed metal band called "Rhapsody".

If you like Metal like that, try this Italian speed metal band called "Rhapsody".


haha rhapsody is so hilarious!!! a bunch of morons, if you ask me...i can't listen to it without laughing, but it's still totally sweet.

haha rhapsody is so hilarious!!! a bunch of morons, if you ask me...i can't listen to it without laughing, but it's still totally sweet.

I like their "Gargoyles, Angels of Darkness" song, it's great.

i dunno, i only heard a few songs when i was with a friend, but i laughed my head off, man.

Too bad old metal is far superior to what we have today.

Maybe before you write songs you should learn how to type correctly?


man... u think whatever ur little head tells you to think. but what you consider the old metal aint even meatal. and todays stuff is way better!
and what do u mean i dont type right? if its because of spelling sorry, i cant help that. i dont see anything wrong with what i wrote or write.

man... u think whatever ur little head tells you to think. but what you consider the old metal aint even meatal. and todays stuff is way better!
and what do u mean i dont type right? if its because of spelling sorry, i cant help that. i dont see anything wrong with what i wrote or write.

I actually have a relativly large head, since I'm 6'4. And that's where you're wrong. Old metal is actually music. It had a point, it had killer guitar work, and was loud, and offensive, which is the point of metal.

Today's stuff is junk, especially Christian metal. If you took all the Christian Metal, and metal released in the past 5 years, barring Maiden's releases, and compared it to Iron Maiden's "Rock in Rio", the Maiden would blow it away. You could also substitude "Master of Puppets" by Metallica, "Back in Black" by AC/DC, or "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath and you'd get the same results.

I actually have a relativly large head, since I'm 6'4. And that's where you're wrong. Old metal is actually music. It had a point, it had killer guitar work, and was loud, and offensive, which is the point of metal.

Today's stuff is junk, especially Christian metal. If you took all the Christian Metal, and metal released in the past 5 years, barring Maiden's releases, and compared it to Iron Maiden's "Rock in Rio", the Maiden would blow it away. You could also substitude "Master of Puppets" by Metallica, "Back in Black" by AC/DC, or "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath and you'd get the same results.


What the 'eff man?! You're just blatantly telling someone they're wrong/dumb for not liking the same things you do. I think you're forgetting taste is entirely subjective. It's not like he was bashing old metal or anything - your word isn't Gospel (and how would you like it if I went through all your posts and started pointing out English errors and mistakes - I'm sure I could find some if not a bunch). Someone had to say something here...

edit: I don't mean to be super-spiteful, but this bugs me. I've been known to get overzealous and opinionated myself, but...ya...

I concur with ^

What the 'eff man?! You're just blatantly telling someone they're wrong/dumb for not liking the same things you do. I think you're forgetting taste is entirely subjective. It's not like he was bashing old metal or anything - your word isn't Gospel (and how would you like it if I went through all your posts and started pointing out English errors and mistakes - I'm sure I could find some if not a bunch). Someone had to say something here...

edit: I don't mean to be super-spiteful, but this bugs me. I've been known to get overzealous and opinionated myself, but...ya...

Before we go off saying that I'm like what you just said, lets look at her post k?

man... u think whatever ur little head tells you to think. but what you consider the old metal aint even meatal. and todays stuff is way better!

'Old Metal ain't even metal'. Wow, way to be blatantly offensive about what is and isn't metal.

and what do u mean i dont type right? if its because of spelling sorry, i cant help that. i dont see anything wrong with what i wrote or write.

There's a difference between trying to type correctly, and writing "u", and not even capitalizing. Most every kid in this country acts like they never passed the 4th grade. "Wrote or Write" come on, you're not even trying. If you're so incompitent that you make that big of an error when you are trying, how did you access the internet in the first place? Wouldn't that be beyond your thought process?

There you go. Show me where I said she was stupid in my post before you say that I said that k? Also, pay some attention to her post before you go off on a diatribe about mine. kthxbye

Too bad old metal is far superior to what we have today.



Maybe before you write songs you should learn how to type correctly?


That post alone just looks like bait. Whether you meant it or not, it's how it is.


I actually have a relativly large head, since I'm 6'4. And that's where you're wrong. Old metal is actually music. It had a point, it had killer guitar work, and was loud, and offensive, which is the point of metal.

Today's stuff is junk, especially Christian metal. If you took all the Christian Metal, and metal released in the past 5 years, barring Maiden's releases, and compared it to Iron Maiden's "Rock in Rio", the Maiden would blow it away. You could also substitude "Master of Puppets" by Metallica, "Back in Black" by AC/DC, or "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath and you'd get the same results.

And then you pretty much blast their taste as junk. I'm not defending anyone's opinion because they're...well...opinions! But even after the fact you're still going on about how horrible they're typing is! Saying, "hey, just fyi 'insert error' is incorrect and is kind of annoying - just keep that in mind por favor," in your post is a far cry from just saying your english sucks, you shouldn't be writing any songs or using the internet. You may not be meaning to translate hostile messages, but you are. I know I do it myself all the time when I don't mean to as well, I'm just saying cut it.

Edit: And, yes, I did see what the original poster said, but certain things just have to be taken in stride with a grain of salt when someone is just stating what they think (not directing towards anybody as far as I can TELL). There's a life lesson for ya on everything - I have difficulty with it myself (it's called college proffessors, for one), but that's just life.

Just to add my opinion. Yes, I love metal and false metal (like FIF or Roper).

And just to add this, which will probably take it to a Mars Hill topic, I disagree with those of you who say if you are a christian you don't have to say anything about it in your music. I do agree that christians do that but in doing that they make their band not a christian band. Am I saying that you have to have the words Jesus or God in your song? No. But even if you don't the christianity should ooze from your lyrics, like Skillet on their new album. In my opinion and given this is just my opinion, if you are in what you think is a christian band and you are not glorifying God either through direct mention of him or his son or the promotion of his ideals through your lyrics, you need to re-evaluate what you are doing. This is the case even with bands like Relient K (not Switchfoot cause you can easily pick out the christian message in their songs). Relient K has gone from one of the most overtly christian bands with songs like "Never Underestimate my Jesus" to a band that claims to be christian but has many songs and videos, which basically promote lusting after girls. I don't know about you but I don't remember the commandment "thou shalt lust after girls." In fact I remember something against that like something about coveting or adultery something like that. Also if you are a christian and you are in a band that doesn't glorify God through your music at all, I think you need to re-evaluate what you are doing. What on earth are you doing for heaven's sake? Is this band helping anyone come to christ, and don't give me the well they will meet me and see that I'm a christian through the way I act and that will win people to christ, cause you know how many people actually take the time out of their life to meet every member of their favorite band. The answer is not many. In fact I would imagine a great deal of the panheads havn't met all of Skillet, I havn't met John. So really look and see what your band is doing for the kingdom of heaven. If the answer is nothing in my opinion you should leave and use your talents to do that. Anyway, I've said my piece and am well aware that I will get jumped on for this but I will try and avoid responding to the jumping to try and avoid having this topic go to Mars Hill.

Finally I just want to say to Isildur that I have noticed that you do this thing a great deal. You take things just a little too far and it ends up making things go south. I don't know if you mean to do it or not, but I have called you on it before and apparently that didn't help at all. So, I agree with the others, try and at least keep it civil. And just on a side note, attacking someone's grammar is low. It is a tactic usually used by people who really have no basis for their argument and so try to compensate for that by discrediting their opponent by attacking their writing skills. I'm not saying that is what you are doing, but that is the usual trend. The person you just lambasted could be ten years old and doesn't know any better. Also we are on the internet so the use of internet language like u for you is understandable, while not always appreciated it is understandable. So just try and keep that in mind.

Peace

omw!!!
this reeper guy knows what he is talking about!!
go reeper, it's your birthday!!

Gah, everyone has their own taste in music... That's just up to them. But, seriously, if you can't type like a big kid... please, re-take 2nd grade.

Gah, everyone has their own taste in music... That's just up to them. But, seriously, if you can't type like a big kid... please, re-take 3rd grade.


are you talking to me?!?!

I'm talking to anyone who can't spell or can't use correct grammar.
(You seem to be okay... :P)

And then you pretty much blast their taste as junk. I'm not defending anyone's opinion because they're...well...opinions! But even after the fact you're still going on about how horrible they're typing is! Saying, "hey, just fyi 'insert error' is incorrect and is kind of annoying - just keep that in mind por favor," in your post is a far cry from just saying your english sucks, you shouldn't be writing any songs or using the internet. You may not be meaning to translate hostile messages, but you are. I know I do it myself all the time when I don't mean to as well, I'm just saying cut it.

Edit: And, yes, I did see what the original poster said, but certain things just have to be taken in stride with a grain of salt when someone is just stating what they think (not directing towards anybody as far as I can TELL). There's a life lesson for ya on everything - I have difficulty with it myself (it's called college proffessors, for one), but that's just life.

I don't want this to degenerate into a he-said, she-said, however it looks to be that way. At least from what I'm gathering out of this, you're going out of your way to flame me, when both myself, and deadb4dawn are guilty of it somewhat. I'll agree that I was a bit more 'intense' in my post, but she still slammed on older metal, saying it wasn't even metal. But wait, that doesn't matter, only what I say right?

Finally I just want to say to Isildur that I have noticed that you do this thing a great deal. You take things just a little too far and it ends up making things go south. I don't know if you mean to do it or not, but I have called you on it before and apparently that didn't help at all. So, I agree with the others, try and at least keep it civil.

I do keep it civil. I don't go out of my way to start blatantly insulting people.

And just on a side note, attacking someone's grammar is low.

It's also "low" to throw out that great education you recieve for free.

It is a tactic usually used by people who really have no basis for their argument and so try to compensate for that by discrediting their opponent by attacking their writing skills.

Too bad I had a basis for my argument. Maybe that would have applied if I didn't. If you really want proof, you can look at record sales from the 4 bands I listed.

I'm not saying that is what you are doing, but that is the usual trend.

Sometimes my emotions get the best of me. Sorry. Most of the time I don't, and I do back up my arguments.

The person you just lambasted could be ten years old and doesn't know any better.

Someone has to look out for the common good.

Also we are on the internet so the use of internet language like u for you is understandable, while not always appreciated it is understandable. So just try and keep that in mind.

That's great that you're willing to let the internet degenerate into a cesspool of ignorance.

Isildur are you serious?

I didn't go out of my way to insult you.

I said that it is usually the trend that they have no basis for their argument, not that you didn't. And even if you do we are still only talking about matters of opinion so record sales have nothing to do with it. If that were the case I wouldn't like any christian bands cause secular bands have much greater record sales.

I am not willing to let the internet degrade to a cesspool, but I don't think using the letter u rather than the word you is going to be the downfall of human society. Seriously man pick your battles.

Finally this is your whole problem bud. This is why this continues to happen with you and why everyone's attempts to correct it are in vain. You take every attempt to try and help you as an attack or insult. I in no way was insulting you in my last post. I was trying to help you. If you can't see that or even acknowledge that then I give up. Now I do appreciate your apology for letting your emotions get the best of you, I do the same thing, but to have that be one line in a post where you fail to not let your emotions get the best of you again is not good. I hope you take this to heart it isn't me being mean to you, I'm simply trying to help you.

Peace

Isildur are you serious?

I didn't go out of my way to insult you.

I said that it is usually the trend that they have no basis for their argument, not that you didn't. And even if you do we are still only talking about matters of opinion so record sales have nothing to do with it. If that were the case I wouldn't like any christian bands cause secular bands have much greater record sales.

Hmm. I am on the defensive too much aren't I? That's probably why I got voted "most likely to die before age 30" at school. :)

I am not willing to let the internet degrade to a cesspool, but I don't think using the letter u rather than the word you is going to be the downfall of human society. Seriously man pick your battles.

I already have. While I think that pornography is terrible, and it will ultimatly kill the entire internet, so is sacrificing common sense when it comes to posting.

Finally this is your whole problem bud. This is why this continues to happen with you and why everyone's attempts to correct it are in vain. You take every attempt to try and help you as an attack or insult. I in no way was insulting you in my last post. I was trying to help you. If you can't see that or even acknowledge that then I give up.

As I re-read your post, I see that. I'm in the wrong. I'm sorry. It seems like I am pretty arrogant when it comes to posting on this board especially.

Now I do appreciate your apology for letting your emotions get the best of you, I do the same thing, but to have that be one line in a post where you fail to not let your emotions get the best of you again is not good. I hope you take this to heart it isn't me being mean to you, I'm simply trying to help you.

Peace

Thanks dude. I needed someone to set me in line.

oye..
Metal rocks! Some of my favorite bands are

*Secular*
Slipknot, Otep, System of a Down, Adema, Linkin Park, Nightwish, Metallica, In Flames, Trapt, Rammstein, Korn, Disturbed, Papa Roach..ect.

*christian*
Bloodline Caligorphy (A CHICK christian metal band! Gotta respect that!), Demon Hunter, Living Sacrifice, Dead Poetic, Project 86, As i Lay Dying, and some more..just can't think of them.

I don't consider Trapt metal, just Hard Rock. :P

That said...

Metal is the BEST. I love all kinds of metal bands, and I could go on and on all day about all kinds of metal, but I'll just list one band right now that I have been SO into.

American Head Charge. Not Christian, not a problem for me.


P.S. Rammstein? Oh yeah. 8)

Rock > Metal, but Metallica, Black Sabbath, and Iron Maiden are some of my favorites.

Metal... *starts drooling* Sorry. :P I practically live for Metal.

For starters I love: Metallica, Zao, Living Sacrifice, The Agony Scene, American Head Charge, Static-X, Korn, Mudvayne, Coal Chamber, Fear Factory, Megadeth, Pantera, and a lot of others I can't think of right now. :P

You do realize that just now you made me remember who I wanted to put in my Top 10 Christian Rock Bands list in that other thread, now don't you? :P

Just about all the metal Jon likes, I like, so he can speak for me here. :D

No other Maiden/Sabbath fans...? :(

Actually, Sabbath was one of those I forgot. :P

Whatever Jon says, I usually agree to.

Usually, you... you... jerk! That's right! You're a jerk, Jon! So there ya go! Ha! ...okay, I'll just shut up now. :P

Metal... Lets see I like Mastodon,Trivium,Demon Hunter, Living Sacrifice, Rob Zombie,The Agony Scene (somewhat). etc.

duh!!!!
but i don't really think as i lay dying is a cgristian band.. i really haven't found any lyrics that talk about jesus or anything related to christianity..
yes they are christian...and i like them too! :P

I'm selective with my metal. I certainly DON'T listen to Slipknot or whatever else. I used to love metal but then I realized the vocals suck 80% of the time, it's either whiney 80's metal type vocals or crappy growling. The guitars can be fun to listen to, but then the drumming also gets repetitive. I don't know what happened, but apparently I turned into a full-blown cynic.

I'm selective with my metal. I certainly DON'T listen to Slipknot or whatever else. I used to love metal but then I realized the vocals suck 80% of the time, it's either whiney 80's metal type vocals or crappy growling. The guitars can be fun to listen to, but then the drumming also gets repetitive. I don't know what happened, but apparently I turned into a full-blown cynic.

cynics rock.

I'm selective with my metal. I certainly DON'T listen to Slipknot or whatever else. I used to love metal but then I realized the vocals suck 80% of the time, it's either whiney 80's metal type vocals or crappy growling. The guitars can be fun to listen to, but then the drumming also gets repetitive. I don't know what happened, but apparently I turned into a full-blown cynic.

Strange, most 80's Metal doesn't have whiny singing...

Metal... *starts drooling* Sorry. :P I practically live for Metal.

For starters I love: Metallica, Zao, Living Sacrifice, The Agony Scene, American Head Charge, Static-X, Korn, Mudvayne, Coal Chamber, Fear Factory, Megadeth, Pantera, and a lot of others I can't think of right now. :P

Fear Factory? They are so not metal. :o

Fear Factory? They are so not metal. :o
According to whom? And have you never heard of Industrial Metal?

"Industrial metal is a musical genre which draws elements from industrial music and heavy metal music. Industrial metal music is usually centered around metal guitar riffs and industrial synthesizer/sequencer lines, as well as heavily-distorted vocals."

"Fear Factory was formed on October 31, 1990 in Los Angeles, California by ex-guitarist Dino Cazares and drummer Raymond Herrera. Characterised by a mix of thrash metal guitar riffs, roaring vocals that make way for melodic singing, pulse driven drum beats, and powerful basslines, Fear Factory have been making waves in both the American death metal and industrial metal scenes since their debut album, Soul of a New Machine (1992)."

I occasionally enjoy listeing to Fear factory... but calling them metal is insane. Techno maybe, but not metal. :o

I occasionally enjoy listeing to Fear factory... but calling them metal is insane. Techno maybe, but not metal. :o
What?! :o As someone who knows what techno is, that's an insult! :P

Or, in short, Fear Factory = not Techno. :P Techno is WAY different. :P

I love hard/metal stuff, infact, im listening to the chariot right now. lol

*Thinks* Yeah, you are probably right, but they are, in no shape or form... metal. I don't know how to classify them. Not metal. No. No. No.

I occasionally enjoy listeing to Fear factory... but calling them metal is insane. Techno maybe, but not metal. :o
Are you sure it's Fear Factory you're thinking of? Last time I checked guitars are not used in techno...at all. Whether you believe it or not, Fear Factory is Industrial Metal.

*Thinks* Yeah, you are probably right, but they are, in no shape or form... metal. I don't know how to classify them. Not metal. No. No. No.
You're thinking Industrial. Industrial Metal :D

You may not know it, but you've heard it before. :P

Strange, most 80's Metal doesn't have whiny singing...

well, Axl Rose type stuff and whatnot.

And correction, industrial is more of cut-and-paste with organic and strange sounds with random vocals, and pretty much exudes noise and harshness. It tends to stray far from the mainstream, ex: Throbbing Gristle, Einsturzende Neubauten. I can't stand it when people are like 'industrial metal'. Skillet's Alien Youth wasn't industrial rock, it was electro-rock. (I've never heard Fear Factory, so if they're like that, then whatever)

well, Axl Rose type stuff and whatnot.

And correction, industrial is more of cut-and-paste with organic and strange sounds with random vocals, and pretty much exudes noise and harshness. It tends to stray far from the mainstream, ex: Throbbing Gristle, Einsturzende Neubauten. I can't stand it when people are like 'industrial metal'. Skillet's Alien Youth wasn't industrial rock, it was electro-rock. (I've never heard Fear Factory, so if they're like that, then whatever)
I can't stand Axl Rose, his "singing" hurts my ear drums.


"Industrial music is a loose term for a number of different styles of electronic and experimental music. First used in the mid 1970s to describe the then-unique sound of Industrial Records artists, a wide variety of artists and labels have since come to be represented under the 'industrial music' umbrella. Depending on whom you ask, this definition may include Avant-garde performance artists such as Throbbing Gristle, Einstürzende Neubauten and Laibach; noise projects like Merzbow or Whitehouse; electronic body music/elektro acts such as Front 242, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM and Nitzer Ebb; electronic rock acts like Nine Inch Nails or Ministry.

The term was meant by its creators to evoke the idea of music created for a new generation of people, previous music being more agricultural. Specifically, it referred to the streamlined process by which the music was being made, although many people later interpreted the word as a poetic reference to an 'industrial' aesthetic, recalling factories and inhuman machinery. On this topic, Peter Christopherson of Industrial Records once remarked, 'the original idea of Industrial Records was to reject what the growing industry was telling you at the time what music was supposed to be.' "

I have a couple of Fear Factory albums, and like it or not, "Industrial Metal" is the closest term to what they sound like.

Well, if Fear Factory is indeed industrial-metal, I'll have to listen to it. I'm always on the lookout for some decent metal (or industrial) artists. Can you tell me where I can download this stuff?

Well, if Fear Factory is indeed industrial-metal, I'll have to listen to it. I'm always on the lookout for some decent metal (or industrial) artists. Can you tell me where I can download this stuff?
http://www.fearfactory.com/albums.html
If you click on the album covers, you're supposed to be able to download one song from each album, but not all the links work.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/artists/FearFactory/music.aspx
You can listen to several songs here,

http://www.purevolume.com/fearfactory
and two more songs here.

Are you sure it's Fear Factory you're thinking of? Last time I checked guitars are not used in techno...at all. Whether you believe it or not, Fear Factory is Industrial Metal.
Of course I'm thinking of Fear Factory... I only have one CD, but still... :P


(Their music is pretty cool, but their vocals SUCK. :azn: )

What is Fear Factory? I've heard of them..but what do they sound like? What other bands i mean, do they sound like?

As I lay dying is like the best christian metal ever.

What is Fear Factory? I've heard of them..but what do they sound like? What other bands i mean, do they sound like?
Have you ever heard of live plasma (http://www.liveplasma.com/)? Run a search for Fear Factory on there and what comes up is Machine Head, Static-X, Slayer, Pantera, Lamb of God, etc. Machine Head and Static-X are the closest to what Fear Factory sounds like. If you really want to know what Fear Factory sounds like, check out the links I posted before.

As I lay dying is like the best christian metal ever.
I'm a bigger fan of Demon Hunter, but yes, As I Lay Dying is pretty good.

If you consider Static-X metal, then Fear Factory would be considered metal. Genres are getting harder to define these days.

Static-X... Hmmm. They are okay. Pretty good. Not something you want your parents to know you listen to. ;)

Genres are getting harder to define these days.
No, people are just getting stupider.

Static-X... Hmmm. They are okay. Pretty good. Not something you want your parents to know you listen to. ;)
Why not? To hide the fact would be deception.

Deception is easier that confrontation.

Deception is easier that confrontation.

Doesn't justify it though.

I didn't say it did.

Static-X... Hmmm. They are okay. Pretty good. Not something you want your parents to know you listen to. ;)
My Dad likes Static-X... :D

Wow... That's awesome...

If you consider Static-X metal, then Fear Factory would be considered metal. Genres are getting harder to define these days.


Its funny, they get harder to define but yet for the most part, they all sound the same.

No, people are just getting stupider.

People might be getting stupider, but so are the so called "genres" of all this generic sounding noise that passes for music these days.

People might be getting stupider, but so are the so called "genres" of all this generic sounding noise that passes for music these days.

We need to have music like we had in the 70's once more. :\

lol um... I dont know about that but its better then whats going around these days.

someone told me skillet was metal...are they? If so they are a softer metal right? I dunno what genre of the metal genere they would be. But if someone could tell me that would definatly help

If so they are a softer metal right?
I'd like to see somebody show me what "soft metal" is.

*sighs* i dont know what to call it...i just wish somneone would ANSWER MY QUEEESSSSTTTTIOOOOONNNN

Their rock.:)

I like Norma Jean, System of a Down, among others. Unfourtunatly, I like Slipknot, but I don't care about your views on them.
What exactly IS Nu Metal.

I like Nonpoint (especially their latest CD "To The Pain), Taproot, that sort of thing.

Nu-Metal is a softer, more melodic version of metal. A prime example would be a band called...Taproot. You can hear their music on their website (http://www.taproot.com. Listen to the track "Facepeeler).

Thanx 4 answering my Q, Brandon.

You're quite welcome. Anytime!

Iron Maiden, Metallica, and Black Sabbath are greeaaat!

Taproot, softer? That must be their new stuff or something, 'cause Welcome wasn't soft, but it was a lot more melodic than stuff they playedo n the radio at the time.

What about Megadeth?

Megadeth, Slayer, Isis, Pantera, those bands are second class to the Iron Maiden, Metallica, and Black Sabbath. Pantera sucks now that Dimebag is dead.

Agreed, I do like Metallica more than Megadeth.

Have you tried out Maiden? They're probably my favorite.

demon hunter yeah!

Have you tried out Maiden? They're probably my favorite.
No, but if I remember later I'll bum off an MP3 from Jon if he has one.

No, but if I remember later I'll bum off an MP3 from Jon if he has one.

You definitely should, Maiden's a great band.

Taproot, softer? That must be their new stuff or something, 'cause Welcome wasn't soft, but it was a lot more melodic than stuff they playedo n the radio at the time.

What about Megadeth?
Blue Sky Research is a lot softer than "Gift" and "Welcome".

Pantera sucks now that Dimebag is dead.
I thought Pantera broke up...

We need to have music like we had in the 70's once more. :\


Music wrote about drugs and/or while on a drug trip?


Just messing with ya :D

Norma Jean, The Chariot, Haste the Day, Taproot, Lacuna Coil, Linkin Park, Evanescence(if you classify them as metal;I do), Slipknot, As I Lay Dying is good to, though I'm not sure they're christain metal. Have you seen the video for Through Struggle? The end of that vid is weird. Anyways, I think Skillet is christain Nu Metal.

Music wrote about drugs and/or while on a drug trip?


Just messing with ya :D

Well, seems like most good music was created under the influence of drugs...