TheFireBreathes
12-18-2005, 03:45 PM
So I have read this book at least three or four times in the past 2 months and every time I read it it just seems to get more and more confusing. And this "meaningless" thing that is mentioned over and over. Is it talking about everything on earth is meaningless to God? For example, this chapter has stood out to me in someway but I cant figure it out.

Ecclesiastes 6

1 I have seen another evil under the sun, and it weighs heavily on men: 2 God gives a man wealth, possessions and honor, so that he lacks nothing his heart desires, but God does not enable him to enjoy them, and a stranger enjoys them instead. This is meaningless, a grievous evil.

3 A man may have a hundred children and live many years; yet no matter how long he lives, if he cannot enjoy his prosperity and does not receive proper burial, I say that a stillborn child is better off than he. 4 It comes without meaning, it departs in darkness, and in darkness its name is shrouded. 5 Though it never saw the sun or knew anything, it has more rest than does that man- 6 even if he lives a thousand years twice over but fails to enjoy his prosperity. Do not all go to the same place?

7 All man's efforts are for his mouth,
yet his appetite is never satisfied.

8 What advantage has a wise man
over a fool?
What does a poor man gain
by knowing how to conduct himself before others?

9 Better what the eye sees
than the roving of the appetite.
This too is meaningless,
a chasing after the wind.

10 Whatever exists has already been named,
and what man is has been known;
no man can contend
with one who is stronger than he.

11 The more the words,
the less the meaning,
and how does that profit anyone?

12 For who knows what is good for a man in life, during the few and meaningless days he passes through like a shadow? Who can tell him what will happen under the sun after he is gone?

amodman
12-18-2005, 03:56 PM
It's saying that even with all knowledge, manners, and wealth this world has to offer it is still all meaningless without God. What is the fleeting shadows of our life under the sun without a meaningful relationship with God that will last an eternity? Ecclesiastes is basically just Solomon's ramblings on this subject. It's almost depressing until you remember we can have a relationship with God, heh.

TheFireBreathes
12-18-2005, 03:59 PM
It's saying that even with all knowledge, manners, and wealth this world has to offer it is still all meaningless without God. What is the fleeting shadows of our life under the sun without a meaningful relationship with God that will last an eternity? Ecclesiastes is basically just Solomon's ramblings on this subject. It's almost depressing until you remember we can have a relationship with God, heh.

Oh ok, his writing reminded me a lot of C.S. lewis. Like just the way he wrote everything.

NightCrawler
12-18-2005, 06:52 PM
Wisdom is meaningless, he even said. This is Solomon talking.

disciple
12-18-2005, 06:54 PM
It's saying that even with all knowledge, manners, and wealth this world has to offer it is still all meaningless without God.
That sums up my thoughts on this.

skynes
12-19-2005, 12:27 AM
Solomon spent a lot of his middle/late life without God. He spent his time with women, riches and drink.

Toward the last days of his life, he realized what he had done - Squandered and wasted his entire life on things worth nothing.

The book of Ecclesiastes is the outpouring of a broken heart that knows it has sinned against God by placing the world and its desires as his god.

What is having gifts? Without knowing the giver.

What is knowledge and wisdom? Without knowing the source of all wisdom.

What is riches? Without using them to glorify him.

All these things are meaningless without God.

This took Solomon his whole life to realize, God gives meaning. Without God there is no meaning and everything is vanity and worthless.

theelectric3
12-20-2005, 08:30 PM
i used to be sorta confused on this as well until my friend and college-group pastor taught on it. i recomend you checking it out and from there ask the Lord to show you more into this book.

Scott summed it up. :) but if you still want to hear, you can go here (http://www.clarityministries.com) and click on the "A" for Audio Messages. at the top you will see Ecclesiastes listed.

TheFireBreathes
12-20-2005, 09:09 PM
Oh ok. Glad Im not the only one, thanks everyone.