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alorian
01-22-2006, 05:59 PM
A fellow panhead, Tiffany, is most likely going to commit suicide tonight. Please, I implore, I BEGG!!!!!!!! Pray for her!!!!! I ________________________ if she died, I have no idea, I just can't ____ I have no idea what to say, just please, pray like hell, please!!

:'(

BarlowgIRL
01-22-2006, 06:01 PM
I'll be praying

skilletgirl
01-22-2006, 06:09 PM
oh my gosh... keep us informed

drumchick101
01-22-2006, 06:22 PM
Oooohhhhh no she won't. I say that because I command the devil to get away from my sister in the name of Jesus. I have faith that God will show up. I am praying, and yes...keep us updated.

><sarah><

Pretendeavor
01-22-2006, 06:27 PM
that is scary...and i just had the worst feeling of deja vu.

alorian
01-22-2006, 06:30 PM
I just got off the phone with her. She promised to call me tomorrow around 4:45 - 5:00 AM my time tomorrow morning. I made that compromise with her. I won't say what I gave up, but I have faith she'll make it through the night- she wouldn't lie about this.
I'm going to go pray in a few.

Deja vu? How so?

skilletgirl
01-22-2006, 06:43 PM
deja vu????

Pretendeavor
01-22-2006, 06:44 PM
it's just that something exactly like this happened a few months ago, she was a fellow panhead and everything...she just didn't tell really anyone on the boards of her plans.

PinkGoo
01-22-2006, 06:45 PM
That's not really a deja vu. Just a reoccurence?

drumchick101
01-22-2006, 06:52 PM
I just got off the phone with her. She promised to call me tomorrow around 4:45 - 5:00 AM my time tomorrow morning. I made that compromise with her. I won't say what I gave up, but I have faith she'll make it through the night- she wouldn't lie about this.
I'm going to go pray in a few.

Deja vu? How so?

*exhales* Ok, I can sleep now.

><sarah><

Pretendeavor
01-22-2006, 06:55 PM
That's not really a deja vu. Just a reoccurence?

not really...no.

alorian
01-22-2006, 07:01 PM
Please don't argue here.

I fear I won't sleep too long, nor too well, as I'll be praying like mad.

disciple
01-22-2006, 07:06 PM
Please don't argue here.

I fear I won't sleep too long, nor too well, as I'll be praying like mad.
Wise to pre-emptively ask.


I've done the same. Your zeal will show to God your true intentions, and the prayers of many will be heard.

Pretendeavor
01-22-2006, 07:06 PM
yeah sorry about getting a little off-topic there...is she gonna be alright for the night then?

skilletgirl
01-22-2006, 07:08 PM
not really...no.

did things go well.. or no?


anyways.. try to relax.. just try... I think God is with her..

alorian
01-22-2006, 07:13 PM
Honestly? I don't know 100 % for sure. I have faith, though, that God will be there with her. I wish I could type out a paragraph right now, explaining multitudinal reasons for why I think she'll call me tomorrow, but I'm at a loss for words. Sorry guys :-\

pizza brain
01-22-2006, 08:10 PM
I'm definetly payin for her.

skilletgirl
01-22-2006, 08:37 PM
its fine hun.. your not expected to be all hunky dory through this..

Pretendeavor
01-22-2006, 08:51 PM
Honestly? I don't know 100 % for sure. I have faith, though, that God will be there with her. I wish I could type out a paragraph right now, explaining multitudinal reasons for why I think she'll call me tomorrow, but I'm at a loss for words. Sorry guys :-\


yeah i guess with a tricky topic like this, you're never 100% sure of anything. every single moment is just a guessing game of what's gonna happen next. so don't be sorry.

skilletgirl
01-22-2006, 10:17 PM
im still thinking about her.. I am staying up kinda late tonight

alorian
01-23-2006, 03:19 AM
I'm on the phone with her right now. Because of thatt, she's not doing it this morning, but says she will tonight. Trying to see if she'll calll me tonight..

Aragornsgirl217
01-23-2006, 05:58 AM
Oh no!!! I'll be praying!!!!!

as~i~lay~dying
01-23-2006, 07:06 AM
I'm on the phone with her right now. Because of thatt, she's not doing it this morning, but says she will tonight. Trying to see if she'll calll me tonight..

Oh wow! If she does call her tell her we love her and don't want her to do this to herself! I'm glad she has you too talk to...stay strong and I will be praying!

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 09:26 AM
whats new.... how is she??

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 12:14 PM
Hey Guys this isnt Tiff its her friend Liz(she gave me her password to this place)..........Thankz u all 4 the prayers and consern. Shes NOT doing well at all....PLZ PLZ PZL continue to pray

Thankz LIZ

Aragornsgirl217
01-23-2006, 12:18 PM
Thanks for the up-date liz....I'm continuing to pray......

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 12:22 PM
Hmm. Wow. What an awful situation. I hope everything works out. This is really terrible. Dealing with suicidal desires is so difficult.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 12:23 PM
no problem I am at her house...have been for like 2 weeks but i still cant stop her she wont come near me she just locks her self in her room i am really worried :'(


~*Liz*~

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 12:31 PM
I dunno.. I feel some sort of peace.. God is ministering to her right now

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 12:34 PM
if there is anyway Liz.. please somehow give her the instant message i sent her.. or if she can look at it in her room... if at all possible

drumchick101
01-23-2006, 12:39 PM
Ya, I felt a peace last night as well before I went to bed. I feel that God is going to use this for His glory and to open a door to move in her life like never before. I am still praying for her. I prayed for her all day at school today and I will continue.

><sarah><

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 12:40 PM
i let her look at it.............i think she wrote back

~*Liz*~

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 12:42 PM
thanks alot.. I send her 1 more. If she is in the mood to read it... tell her to. I don't want to push her or have her feel bugged by us.

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 12:43 PM
why is she so depressed? Whats going on? If you don't mind me asking. I prayed for her and continue do so.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 12:45 PM
ehh.....its along story i cant exactly say whats going on but for 1 she has been for getting to take her depresstion meds...........


~*Liz*~

unshakeable15
01-23-2006, 12:45 PM
my prayers flying.

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 12:56 PM
I don't know if she wants any of us to tell what is wrong.. so unless she tells me its okay.. just keep praying for her

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 01:10 PM
really......she dont even know this post........and if she did she would freak


~*Liz*~

PsychoCanOpener
01-23-2006, 01:30 PM
Wow. That's a crazy, freaky situation. I will definitely be praying.

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 01:40 PM
Keep us updated, guys. Let us know if anything at all happnens, k?

TheFireBreathes
01-23-2006, 01:51 PM
prayin away

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 01:53 PM
Will do she has gotten worse she wont even talk to Seth now..........

~*Liz*~

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 01:54 PM
Oh no. That is really bad. I know that if she will talk to Seth, he can get her to reconsider. But... wow... if she won't even try to talk to him... wow...

TheFireBreathes
01-23-2006, 01:56 PM
Do her parents know about this? Or are they helping?

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 01:56 PM
well..... shes lives with her g-parents and she dont want them to know b/c her g-pa just had open hea surgrey and stuph i dont know like she said she wont but he is trying to get her to call him but she says she dont want to talk to him.......shes mad at him 4 making this thread


~*Liz*~

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 01:57 PM
Why? He's only trying to help. :(

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 02:03 PM
Yeah I know he was, but she is away from God and she dont want any prayers.........I think she knows its working and she dont wanna asmit it

~*LIz*~

zeroneff
01-23-2006, 02:07 PM
I'll pray but keep her calm it's just for a whiel...

I had a freand that wanted to do that but i keep him calm and the following week he was back to normal

TheFireBreathes
01-23-2006, 02:10 PM
I think that though she will probably hate your for a while, that you should tell somone of authority. She well definetley thank you in the end.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 02:12 PM
I think that though she will probably hate your for a while, that you should tell somone of authority. She well definetley thank you in the end.
i cant do that her g-parents well over react

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 02:13 PM
Maybe that's what she needs?

TheFireBreathes
01-23-2006, 02:15 PM
I dont want them to have a heart attack or anything but who wouldnt over react? this is a big issue


(sorry to get off topic)

disciple
01-23-2006, 02:25 PM
I have been praying for her... God truly loves her; our zeal to save her from this is proof that He is working through His children to help her. I can only pray that His love with break through the shell of darkness that Satan has used to envelope her...

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 02:31 PM
i cant do that her g-parents well over react

what do you mean by overreact? I think you should tell them before she does something really bad.Its serious, if she's threating to do it, don't take it lightly.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 02:41 PM
When i say they will over react meaning they wuill lock her up in a meantal hosp. and stupf.....and i am not saying that is abad thing i but she has been in one b/4 and it made her worse and stuph........

~*Liz*~

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 02:42 PM
Wow, that's a little harsh... That's definately the wrong way to handle it.

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 02:43 PM
Whats worse being in a mental ward or kiling herself? In the mental ward it might help her and killing herself isn't going to solve anything.

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 02:44 PM
Yeah, it's definately better than dying, but sending her off to a mental hospital is wrong too.

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 02:45 PM
How do you know its wrong, in this case it might be the right thing to do. It seems like they would be trying to keep her alive.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 02:45 PM
yeah.......I just know it makes thinks worse b/c last time she came home iwth diff. ways to kill her sef and stuph....

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 02:46 PM
Oh wow. What is she considering? This is really bad.

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 02:48 PM
atleast she'll come home and she can only kill herself one way.Well you know the right thing to do. I'll leave at that. I'll keep praying.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 02:50 PM
yeah.........i dunno guess she ust needs Jesus.....

~*Liz*~

disciple
01-23-2006, 02:50 PM
she can only kill herself one way.
Pardon?


Everyone here is pulling for her. We all love her, our sister (she's the same age as my little sister) in Christ, and I know that we're all hoping and praying the best for her.

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 02:52 PM
Pardon?


Everyone here is pulling for her. We all love her, our sister (she's the same age as my little sister) in Christ, and I know that we're all hoping and praying the best for her.

because she said she was learning more ways in the mental ward to kill herself and im saying what difference does it make how you kill yourself if she wants to do she'll do it. Thats why im saying to tell her grandparents so she won't hurt herself.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 02:54 PM
yeah.....i love her to death and i only wan the best and that is NOT her killing her self......I am vary new christina so i admit i havent been praying as much as i should

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 02:55 PM
Just keep on praying and I will too.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 02:56 PM
because she said she was learning more ways in the mental ward to kill herself and im saying what difference does it make how you kill yourself if she wants to do she'll do it. Thats why im saying to tell her grandparents so she won't hurt herself.



yeah but dude they will only make it worse and they cant handle all this sress right now THEY HAVE TOLD HER SO!!!!!


~*Liz*~

zeroneff
01-23-2006, 02:56 PM
You're going to hate me for this but you have to tell her parent's if you don't and she kill's her self they can take you to court for not telling and charge you with her Suicide but if you want talk to you're parent's to see what you can do & what they can do......

disciple
01-23-2006, 02:56 PM
yeah.....i love her to death and i only wan the best and that is NOT her killing her self......I am vary new christina so i admit i havent been praying as much as i should
Don't worry about that; nobody expects a young, new Christian to be a mighty prayer warrior from day one. It's not meant to be an instant transition, it's a long, [obviously] testing road. We're all backing her up with prayer, God must hear the prayers of many.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 02:58 PM
yeah......I have talked to my parenst and they said that they will talk it over with her g'parents

*~Liz*~

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 02:58 PM
Oh good. that great news you did the right thing.

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 02:59 PM
That's really good. Taking that first step and telling her parents is really a good thing. Maybe they can figure out a way to stop her.

disciple
01-23-2006, 02:59 PM
I will still be praying zealously for her.

nsvol
01-23-2006, 03:00 PM
i will def. be praying for her

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 03:01 PM
well....i dont know how lon it will e 4 my parents will talk to her and she is in her room now getting ready to doit and there is NOTHING I can do she wont let me in her room *crys*

~*Liz*~

aliengurl7
01-23-2006, 03:02 PM
If she's gonna kill herself call 911 or break the door do something. If thats what your saying.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 03:05 PM
i dunno anything at this point :'(

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 03:11 PM
How is she going to do it? Wow. This is not good. Yeah, definately call 911 like Michelle said, if it gets to that point.

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 03:13 PM
i cant,.....i dunno....i think shes gonna od

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 03:14 PM
You can't what?

zeroneff
01-23-2006, 03:15 PM
well what cuase her to do this.....
Was it from school, parents put's too much pruesure

zeroneff
01-23-2006, 03:17 PM
i'll play this for her

We have fallen
We have fallen again tonight
Where do we go from here
When theyíre tearing down our lives?
When all they want is
When all they want is
For us to live in fear
How long can we hold on?
Can we hold on?
Hold on

Thereís something deep inside
That keeps my faith alive
When all you can do
Is hide from the fear
Thatís deep inside of you
Something, something, something
Something, something, something
To hold me close when I donít know
Thereís something deep inside
That keeps my faith alive

We are healing
But itís killing us inside
Can we take a chance?
When faith and fear collide
We can make it
Step out and take it
We canít live feeling so numb
How long can we hold on?
Can we hold on?
Hold on

Thereís something deep inside
That keeps my faith alive
When all you can do
Is hide from the fear
Thatís deep inside of you
Something, something, something
Something, something, something
To hold me close when I donít know
Thereís something deep inside
That keeps my faith alive (2x)

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 03:19 PM
Alot Of Stuph!!!!!

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 03:21 PM
Yeah, I understand that there is a lot you can't do. Stay strong and take advantage of what you CAN do.

zeroneff
01-23-2006, 03:25 PM
so has enything happen yet.....

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 03:28 PM
not really shes just in her room

PinkGoo
01-23-2006, 03:29 PM
She won't let you in, eh?

zeroneff
01-23-2006, 03:36 PM
well give us a little back-round ...........

Like what type of person is she and what does she do all day..........

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 03:37 PM
nope :'( well it all depends back when she was serving God she basicly worshiped,read her bible,prayed,and talked to her b/f.......nw she cuts crys and talks to her b/f

~*Liz*~

zeroneff
01-23-2006, 03:54 PM
Is she having problem's with her b/f

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 03:56 PM
no.....at least i dont think so

~*Liz*~

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 04:22 PM
Ok guys good news....I got her to talk to Seth so her and him r talking and i am sure he will try to talk her out of it!!!!!!!

zeroneff
01-23-2006, 04:42 PM
wow! just keep praying make sure she dose not try it agien

panhead_91
01-23-2006, 04:56 PM
guys i just heard herlaugh....i think shes doing better.....but she still wants to die!

alorian
01-23-2006, 05:39 PM
I'm talking to her right now. Pray hardcore, I beg. I need wisdom, I need God, in order to help her see God. I'm trying, but I don't know if I'm getting anywhere :-\ There's a reason Satan wants her gone. I don't know exactly why, but she's essential in something...... which I can't get into... :-\ But she's needed to help stop something the enemy wants to happen... please pray for her

alorian
01-23-2006, 05:55 PM
*Swallows*
I have ten minutes to get her to call me tomorrow.
If she doesn't tell me she will with definity, then I call her grandparents.

drumchick101
01-23-2006, 05:58 PM
Make sure you tell her just what you said, that she's important for something and that it's the devil that wants her gone. You don't have to know details, just just miss the excuse to tell her of her importance. I have been praying for you as well as her. Just trust Dad, put this in His hands and what you say will be in His hands.

><sarah><

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 05:58 PM
Well she is talking to me and has been ... I just want her to talk to me.. I don't want her to feel pressured by us.. ya know.. its the last thing she needs right now

disciple
01-23-2006, 06:00 PM
He wants her because he knows that someone in her position -- depressed -- could help out many people by sharing her experience, and he does not want the possiblity of her saving more lives to linger.

alorian
01-23-2006, 06:09 PM
I just got off of the phone with her. She will call me tomorrow, at 4:30 my time,mountain time, and I'll do my best to talk to her until she gets on the bus, so she doesn't have time to do anything between that time. Hardcore prayer time.

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 06:15 PM
okay keep us posted then

alorian
01-23-2006, 06:19 PM
Of course!

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 08:18 PM
I think things will be okay.. I have this "feeling" on this one

alorian
01-23-2006, 08:21 PM
Thank you. I have faith God will take care of this one.

skilletgirl
01-23-2006, 08:24 PM
yes.. i know he will

theelectric3
01-23-2006, 09:01 PM
Thank you. I have faith God will take care of this one.

2 Timothy 1:12
"For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day."

Everything we commit to God (our lives, our family, our friends, our present, our past, our future, our gifts and talents...etc.) is safe in the hands of God.


she is in my thoughts and prayers. may the Lord continued to flow through you Seth... and remember, James 1 promises us that if we lack wisdom, all we have to is ask Him. Afterall, His love for her far outweighs our own. He is the Savior... and He too doesn't want her to be in pain and feeling alone. for she isn't... He is there. i pray she remembers that He is only as far as we push Him away, but all we need to do is look up and ask for help. and He will help. we were never meant to live this life alone.

skynes
01-24-2006, 01:11 AM
Such a rotten situation...
I haven't posted here yet, but my prayers have been going up continuously since Post 1.

I don't have anything I can really say to this. I will pray and I will pray hard for God to move for any spiritual force messing here to get lost.

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 03:11 AM
hey guys it me.....Tiffany I just got of the fne with Seth......I promised i would call him tonigh bu i dunno i just wanna die i g2g

Tiff

skynes
01-24-2006, 03:45 AM
May we ask 'why' you want to die?

RAMONES
01-24-2006, 07:37 AM
A fellow panhead, Tiffany, is most likely going to commit suicide tonight. Please, I implore, I BEGG!!!!!!!! Pray for her!!!!! I ________________________ if she died, I have no idea, I just can't ____ I have no idea what to say, just please, pray like hell, please!!

:'(
:o :o
OMG!!!!!!!DUDE!!!!!!! IT WILL BE A DEFF- THAT I'LL BE PRAYING!!!!!!!!!
i went through the same thing...alot....but dude if she ever reads this i've got somethin to say:

whatever it may be that caused u to think that suicide is the way....it's not. i've went through goin through this thing where i thought my parents (biological) did'nt want me cuz i had some type of default,i was'nt like everyone else, or what ever, that i needed to just end my life because everyone seemed to hate me. that i was the problem and the only way to solve it was to get rid of the "problem" (me). but then God had gotten a hold of me and changaed me around. God can do the same for you, if only you want him too. Please think about it. God wiil give you a way of escape.

skilletgirl
01-24-2006, 09:01 AM
God is with her in these hours you guys

PinkGoo
01-24-2006, 09:02 AM
Please, please keep us updated, you guys.

skilletgirl
01-24-2006, 09:06 AM
I haven't talked to her today yet but I'll let ya know if she talks to me how things are

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 11:36 AM
hey guys ya i know shoking i posed agina well u al now Liz......shes moven so ya that kinda hard on me............so ya and I have multible y i wanna die.....i did pary 4 a cupple min. today tho


Tiff

PinkGoo
01-24-2006, 11:44 AM
That's really good. Why is Liz moving, though?

skilletgirl
01-24-2006, 11:52 AM
tif.. can I ask how old you are?

PinkGoo
01-24-2006, 11:59 AM
She is fourteen.

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 12:00 PM
I am 14 and I dunno why shes moven...but i dont want her too cuz she ike my best friend

PinkGoo
01-24-2006, 12:01 PM
Are you doing any better Tiffany?

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 12:02 PM
umm...not really

skilletgirl
01-24-2006, 12:47 PM
Tiffany killing yourself is just going to make your friend go through the same pain you are because your dead... honey its just going to hurt your best friend don't hurt her because she is doing something she can't help doing

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 12:54 PM
yeah......well.....its gonna suck bad and i just cant deal with all this crap

Aragornsgirl217
01-24-2006, 01:48 PM
Tiff, I've gone through the emotions that you are going through, and I'm going through them right now again. The first time was when I moved up here to Iowa, and I left my best friend. Hun, I was crying so hard when I left, I thought I was going to die, and I even contemplated suicide for a lonnnngggg time. I thought of running away, anything to to get me away from lonely, cold old Iowa and back to Chelsea(my best friend), Oklahoma, my church, and I wanted everything to be how it used to be. But I prayed, I cried out to God, and I read the Bible, and guess what? I made new friends. No one can ever replace Chelsea(no, not even Julie), but I made it through. And I'm going through it again right now, with Julie and Steve moving. It's tearing my heart to pieces. But killing myself wasn't/isn't going to stop them from moving and it certainly won't do me or them any good. Just because Liz is moving doesn't mean that she still can't be your best friend. And dying won't bring her back. Skilletgirl is right, it will only cause them/her more pain. And think of everyone else that you'd hurt, just because you couldn't stop one friend from moving. You have your Grandparents, Devon, all of us on Panheads, Liz, and any friends at your school that you have. It's not worth it, and it won't solve anything. We all love you so much, and we're here for you if you need to talk.

We love you Tiffany!!!!

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 01:52 PM
no 1 would care!

Aragornsgirl217
01-24-2006, 01:56 PM
no 1 would care!
HELLO??? I CARE!!! Seth cares!! Liz cares!! Skilletgirl cares!! Scott cares!! GOD CARES!!! We all love you Tiffany, and we all care about you very deeply. Killing yourself would hurt me more than you could ever imagine!!!!! It would hurt us all!!

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 01:58 PM
u dont know me how could u care.......

Aragornsgirl217
01-24-2006, 02:02 PM
u dont know me how could u care.......
Because you are my sister in Christ, and you are a fellow Panhead and believer, I care. And most importantly, God cares. And He knows you like the back of His hand. He has a great future planned for you Tiffany, don't mess it up by trying to end your life. You mean more to God than anything in the world. He sent His Son to die for you!!!!! There has never been more devotion among a Father and His daughter than that!!! Think about it. And cry out to Him, and He will come and help you, and you'll come out of this stronger than you ever have before!!!

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 02:04 PM
dude really..I am not turning to him

Aragornsgirl217
01-24-2006, 02:05 PM
Why not Tiffany?? Why not turn to your Creator?? He'll help through anything that you can possibly imagine!! He loves you with a passion!! He died for you!!

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 02:06 PM
b/c i'm upset with him

Aragornsgirl217
01-24-2006, 02:09 PM
And it's okay to be upset with Him! Tell Him that! Tell Him why, and how long, but open up to Him! Let go of your anger towards Him! Satan's using that against you, and it's destroying you! Talk to God! Yell at Him! Scream at Him! Tell Him that you're angry at Him, and tell Him why! Then just sit there and let Him minister to you, and take the pieces of your heart and put them back together! He can do that! He wants you to be angry at Him and to tell Him!!

TheFireBreathes
01-24-2006, 02:13 PM
Have you read over this whole thread? Look at how many people who have never seen you care about you. Look at how many people are arent sleeping and praying endlessly for you. As Nickie stated that God loved us so much that he sent His only son to die and excrutiating (sp?) and painfull death. God's love is personal. He knows each of us individually and loves us anyway. It is a extreme love that has no beginning and no ending. It is this Christian experience of realizing His love that makes Christianity diffferent from all other religions. Why does God love us? It is because of who He is: "God is love" -1 John 4:8.

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 02:14 PM
man no.....i cant.....yeah.....i have looked ove the whole thing but i justt dont see how u all can care so much

TheFireBreathes
01-24-2006, 02:23 PM
How can we not care? Have you ever lost a friend or a loved one? Look at how many people it can affect; your parents, your friends, your teachers, your cousins, siblings, etc. Thank about how those people feel if they lost somone as cool as yourself. You are hurting more people than you think.

Aragornsgirl217
01-24-2006, 02:25 PM
honey, you can!! Look, sign into Yahoo IM. I want to talk to you, because I've done this before, and you feel so much better afterwards. God's waiting for you to call on Him, He wants to make you feel better. I've attached a couple of song lyrics. Read them. They are God's personal words to you, in a song.

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 02:33 PM
yeah my g-parents dealed yahoo all i have is aol right now

alorian
01-24-2006, 02:38 PM
Things wll get better from here Tiffany, just go to God and put your trust in him!

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 02:41 PM
yeah.......well i dubt that

Aragornsgirl217
01-24-2006, 02:46 PM
It will Tiff, God will pull through. He always does.

alorian
01-24-2006, 03:01 PM
He is more faithful than the morning sun, more faithful than knowing night will come, more faithful than the changing of season. More faithful than anything. Trust him. He's more trustworthy than anything you might know.

Aragornsgirl217
01-24-2006, 03:03 PM
And Tiffany, you need to also tell your Grandparents. I know that it will be hard, but they need to know about everything, so that they can be there to support you.

Know that I love you as a sister and I'll be praying for you, but don't give in to the Devil's lies!!

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 03:08 PM
yeah.........guys i dunno......

disciple
01-24-2006, 03:12 PM
I say, why not? Give it a try, just tell Him how ya feel, it can't hurt you any. :)

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 03:14 PM
i am not talking to him i ahve tryed it once i am not doing it agian

disciple
01-24-2006, 03:19 PM
But what could it hurt? Honestly? The more I held in my pain over the years, the worse it got... yeah, I was in your spot not even 4 years ago, considering suicide, but eventually I spoke to Him, and I felt release... I spent days talking to Him about everything, down to what TV shows I watched back then... it felt good to let it all go.

alorian
01-24-2006, 03:27 PM
She's going to spend an hour in the word tonight, and talk to God about what's going on in her life tonight.

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 03:28 PM
wut Seth said

disciple
01-24-2006, 03:30 PM
I'm happy to hear this. I'll be praying. :)

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 03:37 PM
thank you I still kinda wana doit tho :-\

disciple
01-24-2006, 03:42 PM
The temptation may still linger, but it's what you choose to do that matters most. :)

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 03:59 PM
yeah.......well....that dosnt mean i wont......

Stridergorn
01-24-2006, 05:06 PM
Okay... I've been reading this thread today... and I just want to know that even though I have never spoken to you before, and don't know you or anything, that I love you like a sister. And I'm going to be praying and praying for you. I just wanted to let you know.

panhead_91
01-24-2006, 07:24 PM
thankz..........i still dont know wut to do i sliped and feel and i am now on cruches

disciple
01-24-2006, 07:36 PM
It's never easy to get back up when you slip; it's a painful process, but God will always be there for you through all of it.

skynes
01-25-2006, 12:37 AM
I know what it's like to be annoyed with God. I get annoyed with Him sometimes and I don't mean yeaaaars ago either. I'm talking within a couple of weeks of today.

So I know what it's like to be peeved with Him for something. I can confidentally say - we all do. We've all slipped, we've all fallen, we've ALL Screwed up to the point where we think God won't take us back.

Tiff, you're not on crutches, you're not even capable of walking... You're being carried and I know Who is carrying you. The very one you're upset with.

Know what I think you should do? Go talk in PM to some of the members in this thread and ask them about their histories, their struggles and their own depressed states. Find out what they've been through and how they dealt with it.

---------------
You're one of us, and we all love you.

alorian
01-25-2006, 03:14 AM
yeah, the symbolic thing with the crutches is cool but...

She really did physically slip, fall, and land on her bad knee, tearing up ligaments or something. She went the thoe hospital last night, and is now on crutches. She told me this morning that she would call me tonight.

Thanks for all your prayers etc so far guys, I'm extremely grateful.

skynes
01-25-2006, 03:32 AM
Oopsie, I thought she was being metaphorical, lol.

Aragornsgirl217
01-25-2006, 05:16 AM
I'll continue to pray...

Bassplayer
01-25-2006, 06:29 AM
Hey Tiff, I don't know you. I've been reading over this thread today. Even though you fell physically, you have also fallen spiritually. You probably know that saying that we fall only to get back up. It's a strengthening process. We have all fallen. Maybe not in the same places, but we've all lost it.

I admit that i was adicted to porn for a while. I got caught and let me tell you, getting caught was the best thing that happened to me. My parents prayed for me and with me. I got over it. Now i know its not the same thing that you're going through, but its essentially the same. You've got all of us here on PH praying for you including me. None of us want to see you go.

It hurts all of us that you are in this state of depression and thirst of suicide. God helped me back up and he can do the same for you. Tiff, we really want to help you. If all we can do is pray, then that's what we'll do. I'm homeschooled so i'll be able to pray all day. And you asked how can we all care about you? You don't have to know someone to care about them. All it takes is a moving of the heart. We love you Tiff and we don't want to see you do this.

If you want to die, just think of what will happen to your loved ones (including us here on PH.) Just pour out your heart to God. The night i got caught, i cried for quite a while. God broke my heart. He does this to build us up into something greater. I agree, Satan wants you out of this world! Do you really want to give him the satisfaction of seeing you die off? He'd be rolling around laughing. Please don't give him that pleasure. You'd piss him off even more just by living and to be honest, we all like to piss off Satan and get him mad. Please just talk to Seth and Liz. We all love you, even though we haven't met you physically. Keep that in mind.

Dustin

lamb_servant72
01-25-2006, 07:06 AM
Tiffany, you have been through so much. I don't just mean recently with your brother, your friend, and the fall, but your whole life!

When I was praying for you this morning, two thoughts came to mind.

The first was Matthew 22:31-32 "...Satan has demanded permission to sift you like wheat; but I have prayed for you , that your faith may not fail; and you, when once you have turned again, strengthen your brothers."

The second was...well, we'll talk about that in pm.

frymeskillet
01-25-2006, 11:47 AM
I think all of us from time to time fall (physically and spiritually) and I think everyone on this whole board could relate (even remotely) to some things that have been going on in your life. I will continue to pray for you :)

-Savannah-

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 12:23 PM
hey guys OMG today has been the worst day of my life i wanna die more then ever!!!!!!!!! I just dunno.....

aliengurl7
01-25-2006, 12:39 PM
Hang in there.

PsychoCanOpener
01-25-2006, 12:57 PM
Hey. I'll continue praying.

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 12:59 PM
thanx guys i dubt i will be posting on here anymore prolly jus let Seth and Liz(my friend) do the updating........*sigh* l8r

Bassplayer
01-25-2006, 01:12 PM
well, either way, just remember that we all love you and care for you. We don't want to see you go through this and we'll help anyway we can.

D

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 01:16 PM
hey guys its Liz.....she says dont bother praying any mor but PLZ do i am REALLY worried!

Liz

Stridergorn
01-25-2006, 03:14 PM
She really did physically slip, fall, and land on her bad knee, tearing up ligaments or something. She went the thoe hospital last night, and is now on crutches. She told me this morning that she would call me tonight.


Oooouuch. :-\ That sounds so painful. I hope you get better soon.

disciple
01-25-2006, 03:20 PM
Oopsie, I thought she was being metaphorical, lol.
Yeah, so did I. (Ironic that you mentioned crutches. ::])


I'm still praying. :)

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 04:17 PM
hey i know i said i prolly wouldnt post agian but ......i really DONT want the prayers! Plz

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 05:00 PM
i cnat do this i cant take life i cant do it

packmule3
01-25-2006, 05:05 PM
I resist the devil in the name of Jesus Christ.

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 05:11 PM
I am serious guys i really cant do this!!!!!!!!

disciple
01-25-2006, 05:16 PM
Do you mind me asking what's so difficult about living? I don't mean to pry.

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 05:19 PM
just everything i mean I cant get away from getting yelled at or anything.......... its like i go to school i get yelled at i come home i get yealled at even more i just cant take all of this

disciple
01-25-2006, 05:22 PM
I grew up in a house where my stepmom wouldn't let me leave at all, ever, and she liked to scream at us children and slap us around, so I know how that is. What I did to get by was count down the days till I turned 18 (and thus able to move out).

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 05:24 PM
yeah..........well i jsut cant take it anymore

disciple
01-25-2006, 05:27 PM
I had to look to God to help me through it; not being able to do anything but clean all day got to me over the years. If you get yelled at at home, why don't you talk about it when them?

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 05:29 PM
with who???

disciple
01-25-2006, 05:31 PM
With whoever it is that yells at you when you get home.

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 05:48 PM
i cant talk to them o and i already told 'em i was gonna kill my slef tonight and they dont belive me ha well they need to

disciple
01-25-2006, 05:52 PM
Was it a serious, calm, sit-down conversation? You have to sit them down and tell them how serious you are about it. Even raising your tone could give them the impression that you're just over-exaggerating.

panhead_91
01-25-2006, 05:53 PM
I try.....they wont listen its over compleatly over

disciple
01-25-2006, 06:03 PM
How many times have you confronted them on this?

alorian
01-25-2006, 06:12 PM
I can call them for you and confirm it

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 12:02 PM
i dunno like 2 or 3

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 03:33 PM
can you tell someone the will listen to?

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 03:34 PM
no......i dont know of any......o yeah guys on top of me can u add Liz(my friend) tryed to kill herself last night.......pills......it makes me wanna do it all the more!!!!!!!!!!

skilletgirl
01-26-2006, 03:39 PM
..this is not meant to be negative.. but hun what is stopping you..you obviously feel something.. go with what your feeling.. which is to live baby

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 03:51 PM
well the onlythng that stoped me last night was that evertime i would go out of my room to get the pills my g-parents would here me and make me go bak in there

skilletgirl
01-26-2006, 03:51 PM
honey i know deep down u don't want to do this

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 03:54 PM
heck yes i do as long as i dont get yelled at tonight am gonna do it..........

skilletgirl
01-26-2006, 03:55 PM
I'm sorry honey

PinkGoo
01-26-2006, 03:55 PM
No, Tiffany. DON'T take your own life.

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 03:57 PM
yes its gonna happen.......unless i get cought agian

alorian
01-26-2006, 03:58 PM
No, don't do it.

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 03:59 PM
w/e Seth w/e

PinkGoo
01-26-2006, 04:17 PM
Tiffany, we love you... it will hurt us really badly if you do it...

skilletgirl
01-26-2006, 04:25 PM
don't.. its not worth it Tiff

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 04:28 PM
Tiffany, we love you... it will hurt us really badly if you do it...


I dont see how

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 04:30 PM
Tiffany your an awesome person with a big heart the world needs more people like you not less

PinkGoo
01-26-2006, 04:30 PM
I dont see how

What do you mean? Of course it would!

disciple
01-26-2006, 04:30 PM
I dont see how
I believe what they are saying is

you're one of us, a panhead, over time we've grown attached to you. It hurts us that you want to end your life prematurely when you have a future ahead of you, a future where you could help people. We want to help you get there, and so does God.

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 04:31 PM
I dont see how

how couldn't we it's you

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 04:38 PM
I believe what they are saying is

you're one of us, a panhead, over time we've grown attached to you. It hurts us that you want to end your life prematurely when you have a future ahead of you, a future where you could help people. We want to help you get there, and so does God.


well i havnt been on here that long.........and plz dont bring up god right now

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 04:39 PM
Tiffany your an awesome person with a big heart the world needs more people like you not less
agian how wuld u know that u dont know me

disciple
01-26-2006, 04:40 PM
well i havnt been on here that long.........and plz dont bring up god right now
4 months, and you actually posted after you joined. Many people here respect you for actually sticking around when most people who join hardly ever do anything about it.

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 04:41 PM
you may be a newis member but we've all grown to love you

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 04:42 PM
yeah......i guess.....

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 04:45 PM
agian how wuld u know that u dont know me
I read all your posts you encourge alot of people on this site and you like skillet and paly guitar sounds like an awesome person with a big heart to me

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 04:48 PM
yeah....i guess your right but still....

unshakeable15
01-26-2006, 04:49 PM
and plz dont bring up god right now
sorry to ask ('cause it's bringing it up again) but why not? i think this might be an important part to everything.

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 04:51 PM
cuz i am VARY upset with him and if i do end up not killing my self it will not be a life lived 4 God i will prolly go back into cutting,dugs,and other stuff......

alorian
01-26-2006, 04:53 PM
She feels God didn't protect her when He says he'll protects his children

Her words

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 04:55 PM
Tiffany we don't just want you to stay we need you we need more people as good at encuaging others as you we need you.

aliengurl7
01-26-2006, 04:58 PM
Tiffany, please think of the pain it will leave your grandparents and rest of your family if you take your life. Suicide solves nothing anything your going through now you can get through, your present sitituation wont last forever. Don't take your life things will get better.

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 05:00 PM
go back into cutting,dugs,and other stuff......
if you don't want that kind of life we'll all do watever we can to help there is probably someone in your city that would love to help u just have to look

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 05:07 PM
yeah but the thing is sint not that i dont want to go back to that life style

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 05:13 PM
yeah but the thing is sint not that i dont want to go back to that life style
would you say you liked it?

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 05:14 PM
yeah i did

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 05:18 PM
QUOTE: yeah i did
why?

alorian
01-26-2006, 05:27 PM
I called her grandfather and told him.

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 05:31 PM
and no i am in SO much truble its not funny so it makes me wanna do it worse

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 05:37 PM
pleas don't we love you and we need you

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 05:39 PM
u dont need me.......

skilletgirl
01-26-2006, 05:40 PM
someone does.. and someone will need you in th future.. whoever u marry.. your future children...your friends

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 05:42 PM
I've seen you encurage so many people how couldn't we
and on top of that you make these boads so much better I can't even describe it

alorian
01-26-2006, 05:42 PM
What about caleb? Liz? Kelly? Your grandparents? Jordan? BOTH your little brothers? Jessi? Hmmmmmmmm lotsa people

panhead_91
01-26-2006, 06:00 PM
hye guys after reading over all this and thinking long and hard about it i dont think i wanna die anymore......i mean yea life sucks but i think if i just lean on God he will help me make it..........

Pretendeavor
01-26-2006, 06:07 PM
yeah i did
you are so young and you got allot of stuff in life in store for you like a husband and kids. if u overcome this you have an amazeing story to tell to the lost ppl. God is right now searching for you.

The Parable of the Lost Son
11Jesus continued: "There was a man who had two sons. 12The younger one said to his father, 'Father, give me my share of the estate.' So he divided his property between them.

13"Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.

17"When he came to his senses, he said, 'How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men.' 20So he got up and went to his father.
"But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

21"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.[b]'

22"But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.

25"Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27'Your brother has come,' he replied, 'and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.'

28"The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!'

31" 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' "

Luke 15:11-32


That verse is baiscly my life story and i think it is for others. We run away from God and do our own thing and sin and are apart from God. God is always there when your runing away from him , he is searching for you right now saying "Tiff I Loved you and i still love you i sent my son to spill blood on the cross to give anyone who belives life in him to be in heaven for ever and ever come back to me tiff my daughter i love you and not matter what you have done i have forgave you and i still love you". When you do come back he imageing what he is doing in heaven "For tiff of mine was dead and is alive again; tiff was lost and is found we shall rejoice".

pizza brain
01-26-2006, 06:09 PM
I am so happy to hear that :) (other than the life sucks part i hope it gets better) if ther's any thing you ever want help with let me know I'll do whatever i can

alorian
01-26-2006, 06:11 PM
(19:50:08) tifferoo66: wut ever so if i did live u prolly wouldnt talk t me anymore
(19:50:24) Seth: Why not?
(19:50:29) Seth: I've gotta go in a min
(19:50:33) Seth: Now, actually, sorry
(19:50:41) tifferoo66: i dunno just wonderin'
(19:51:00) tifferoo66: i might go pray i dunno
(19:52:19) Seth: You should
(19:53:41) tifferoo66: yea i know after seeing all this really dont know if i wanna die
(19:55:40) Seth: okay
(19:55:49) Seth: I'm switching to my phone now, and eating
(19:59:10) tifferoo66: plus i think if i just lean on God he will help me make it..........
(20:02:02) Seth: that's the truth
(20:02:55) tifferoo66: yeah well i am gonna go to bed uhhh... can i call u in the moring or no
(20:04:02) tifferoo66: ok well.....i will try but i told my g-pa my destion so i dunno if i a gonna be grounded or nt but i will try

disciple
01-26-2006, 06:19 PM
I'm with Brandon. And I am glad to see you're willing to give it a chance. :)

PsychoCanOpener
01-26-2006, 06:54 PM
hye guys after reading over all this and thinking long and hard about it i dont think i wanna die anymore......i mean yea life sucks but i think if i just lean on God he will help me make it..........

Good to hear :D

skilletgirl
01-26-2006, 08:29 PM
Your such a amazing girl tiff

Stridergorn
01-27-2006, 05:45 AM
hye guys after reading over all this and thinking long and hard about it i dont think i wanna die anymore......i mean yea life sucks but i think if i just lean on God he will help me make it..........

That so wonderful! I'm so happy now... and I have the sudden urge to dance a jig.

Bassplayer
01-27-2006, 06:19 AM
awesome tiff. it's good to hear that your changing your mind. If you every need help in anything, just let us here on PH know.

panhead_91
01-27-2006, 12:39 PM
Thankz so much guys 4 helping me throu all this.....I stil wanna do iot a lil but not as bad and i have been praying and fighting it......ummm thanx 4 being so pationt throu all of this i know its not been easy an di know its only been a week and we figured out y i got so depressed the main reason is cuz i havnt been takeing me neds 4 it and basicly when i dont take it i act likr that but i am back on thm and doing better i have been back on 'em 4 about week and there just know starting to work agian!

panhead_91
01-27-2006, 03:02 PM
....also after I got onm my ways and really saught the face of God i feel so diff. I cant expain it is just AWESOME! :)

nsvol
01-27-2006, 03:14 PM
i'm glad that God helped you!!!!!!!

Maddog
01-27-2006, 03:29 PM
it's just that something exactly like this happened a few months ago, she was a fellow panhead and everything...she just didn't tell really anyone on the boards of her plans.
cept me and you..And yeah that was so scary. And I am going to pray for her for a while

Stridergorn
01-27-2006, 05:48 PM
....also after I got onm my ways and really saught the face of God i feel so diff. I cant expain it is just AWESOME! :)

I'm so happy for you!!! ;D

Aragornsgirl217
01-28-2006, 07:22 AM
....also after I got onm my ways and really saught the face of God i feel so diff. I cant expain it is just AWESOME! :)
Praise God Tiffany!!! I'm so happy for you!! *goes off to tell the good news to parents*

PinkGoo
01-28-2006, 07:33 AM
I'm glad you have decided to allow yourself to live.

as~i~lay~dying
01-28-2006, 10:37 PM
....also after I got onm my ways and really saught the face of God i feel so diff. I cant expain it is just AWESOME! :)

That's cool, Tiffany~ I'm am glad to hear....I knew it wouldnt happen with all of us praying~!!! ;) Remember to not let the little(or big) things get you down. When things go wrong, don't dwell on it...give it to God and continue to have the joy of Christ! Think of how your can help others...instead of dwelling and thinking about YOUR problems. You only have ONE life to live~ live for God the fullest you can, see how many people you can help and encourage!

panhead_91
01-30-2006, 12:29 PM
hey guys i am having those thoughts agian not as bad as b/4 but their still there PLZ pray

skynes
01-30-2006, 12:50 PM
Command them to leave you in Jesus' Name.

Then have a nice long God-time.

panhead_91
01-30-2006, 05:00 PM
man guys there is so much going on i just wanna sit and cry:'(

TheFireBreathes
01-30-2006, 07:32 PM
Hang in there Tiffany.

(1 Timothy 6:12) 12Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.