Isildur9473
04-30-2006, 05:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G470rfJQCI&search=sean%20hannity

That's pitiful. That woman's an abomination. The 2 guys interviewing her, one's a liberal and the other's conservative both agree that she's a nut. They both have some great lines though.

cloroxmartini
04-30-2006, 05:37 PM
She gives the terrorists a good name. At least what they're doing is an actual part of their religion. She's taking the Bible totally out of context.

disciple
04-30-2006, 08:00 PM
I already saw it. All I needed to do was see the paragraph you wrote to know.

All I have to say:

Only in the Midwest! :)

*cough*churchbornefromanIowanfamily*cough*

animeraven34
04-30-2006, 09:25 PM
Heh. The nation finally getting a taste of what we here in Topeka put up with all the time. ::] We won't have to put up with Fred Phelps much longer. Why not? Because he has terminal and inoperable cancer. Phelps is just a bitter, hate ridden old man whose only agenda is to spread his misdirected and misguided hatred.

terrasin
04-30-2006, 11:24 PM
I've seen this several times over the past few weeks now and it never ceases to amaze me. One day they will make the wrong person mad and end up getting shot. :\

CJ

disciple
05-01-2006, 10:24 AM
I've seen this several times over the past few weeks now and it never ceases to amaze me. One day they will make the wrong person mad and end up getting shot. :\
Sadly, it could be the other way around -- someone could upset them and they'd more than willingly go on a massacre, calling it a "Holy War" -- sounding familiar yet?

TheFireBreathes
05-01-2006, 10:38 AM
i hope people dont think thats really who christians are...

I love this guy who interviewed her. Usually people who interview others are supposed to be unbiased. But he's like "you are the meanist, sickest person ive had on this program". Lol, that cracks me up. Hes so right.

rant: her smile really annoys me.

sky_flashings
05-01-2006, 11:52 AM
People like her make me wonder why anybody would become a Christian at all. I mean, how pathetic. It makes me want to seek revenge by killing one of her brothers or something and then protesting his funeral with signs that say, "God's happy your brother is dead." =/

aliengurl7
05-01-2006, 12:01 PM
Then you're being just like them...

She's nuts. End of story.

disciple
05-01-2006, 12:06 PM
She's Iowan. End of story.
Sorry, I just needed to make one small correction. ;)

skilletfreak101
05-01-2006, 12:27 PM
i liked how she didn't even answer shaun back when he asked, "what are your sins." that is really selfish. you can't judge other people when you don't even judge yourself

TheFireBreathes
05-01-2006, 01:45 PM
i liked how she didn't even answer shaun back when he asked, "what are your sins." that is really selfish. you can't judge other people when you don't even judge yourself

Yeah she would just change the topic.

agent_c68
05-01-2006, 02:07 PM
I hate that they (WBC) justifies being hated by using the verse John 15:18 (and it's parallels in the other gospels) "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." they are not hated as Christ was hated. If people hated them only because they taught homosexuality is a sin, then they have the right to use that to justify themselves. But since they are being real jerks and totally disrepectful, they are hated. they would still be hated for preaching homosexuality is wrong, but they would not be so Loathed and Reviled by everyone because of it.

Maybe they missed the point, maybe they think the more they are hated, the more Christ like they are. Anyways, I don't think it's right to seek persicution in this way.

(In case some did not catch this, this is the "God hates Fags" group, Westboro Baptist Church)

TheFireBreathes
05-01-2006, 02:24 PM
i agree agent.

the website is worse.

animeraven34
05-01-2006, 07:13 PM
...it seems that there are some in Topeka who are fed up with Christians completely thanks to Mr. Phelps. What makes me say this? Someone set fire to a church today here in Topeka.

not_you
05-01-2006, 08:21 PM
I hate that they (WBC) justifies being hated by using the verse John 15:18 (and it's parallels in the other gospels) "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." they are not hated as Christ was hated.
Christ was hated for who He is, loving and compassionate, and that's why people couldn't stand Him. Yeah, there was conviction that people must've hated when they stood by Him, but it was not because He pointed a menacing finger at them. I echo everyone else: it is no wonder why Christians are hated (in a bad way). What can we do to change it?

TheFireBreathes
05-02-2006, 10:24 AM
Can the news to air more Christ related material than this lady. And Im not saying its a bad thing because everyone knows i dont like the media. Like its still important for people to see this.

skilletfreak101
05-05-2006, 08:11 PM
their website, www.godhatesamerica.com is so messed up. they blame homosexuals for everything and they tell them to burn in hell and that God hates them...yeah wow that's really going to win them over to Christ. i think these people are using homosexuality as an excuse so they don't have to admit their own faults...they just blame gay people.

NightCrawler
05-06-2006, 06:38 PM
So yeah, I don't like her smile.

Also... when he said "I answer to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob"... it was AWESOME. I am serious, I felt like there was a real spiritual battle RIGHT there. Immediately, she retorted "How dare you" say that ... ?!

She didn't claim that they were worshiping the same God. In fact, I felt like I was watching a person influenced by a dæmon, literally.

postingiscool
06-01-2006, 09:06 PM
wow..."christians" give christians a bad name. i cant believe they would be such IDIOTS as to mock everything american soldiers do to save their stupid lives. God does not hate america, i think there is a verse somwhere in the bible that idiotic group does not read that says God is love. he doesnt like sin, but honestly how can these people live with themselves?

aliengurl7
06-05-2006, 02:15 PM
wow..."christians" give christians a bad name. i cant believe they would be such IDIOTS as to mock everything american soldiers do to save their stupid lives. God does not hate america, i think there is a verse somwhere in the bible that idiotic group does not read that says God is love. he doesnt like sin, but honestly how can these people live with themselves?

God isn't exactly thrilled with America either. We conquer and destroy. We don't help the poor,our nation only thinks of its self,we oppress countries, America is basically evil with a capital "E". They aren't christians, but just another crazy radical religious group and I think most people can tell that they're out of their mind, just like the kkk and others that call themselves christians.

theelectric3
06-05-2006, 06:06 PM
their website, www.godhatesamerica.com is so messed up. they blame homosexuals for everything and they tell them to burn in hell and that God hates them...yeah wow that's really going to win them over to Christ. i think these people are using homosexuality as an excuse so they don't have to admit their own faults...they just blame gay people.


God hates the act of homosexuality. just like he hates the act of adultry, murder, theft... lies... greed, pride, self-righteousness....

but God does not hate the people. He proved that with what He on the cross, and when He came back to life.

no sin is greater than another. sin is sin and it will send you to hell.

how dare we point the finger at them, when (like you said) we have our own crap to deal with?

that's just so wrong...

God forgive us for judging Your people.
(all are made in the image of God.)

NightCrawler
06-07-2006, 12:16 PM
God isn't exactly thrilled with America either. We conquer and destroy. We don't help the poor,our nation only thinks of its self,we oppress countries, America is basically evil with a capital "E". They aren't christians, but just another crazy radical religious group and I think most people can tell that they're out of their mind, just like the kkk and others that call themselves christians.

>_>

'Conquer'ing is wrong? God told Israel to conquer this and that nation. He had this and that nation conquer Israel.
'Destroy'ing is wrong? I just saw an apartment complex being destroyed. A pile of rubble. They are building a new apartment building there soon.
'We don't'? Speak for yourself, or if you are not speaking for yourself, don't just lump everyone together. Because you are making me (and thusands of others) sound 'un-american' by your definition of our country.

<_<

aliengurl7
06-07-2006, 01:03 PM
I was talking about the U.S government not the people. And don't tell me that the people run the government.

alorian
06-07-2006, 02:12 PM
Hey, everyone but aliengurl7, the people run the US Government.

aliengurl7
06-07-2006, 02:19 PM
Oh yea, I forgot the people of the U.S voted to send troops to Iraq, Afghanistan,and soon to come, Iran. Its not the peoples decision but the government's.

amodman
06-07-2006, 02:19 PM
>_>

'Conquer'ing is wrong? God told Israel to conquer this and that nation. He had this and that nation conquer Israel.
'Destroy'ing is wrong? I just saw an apartment complex being destroyed. A pile of rubble. They are building a new apartment building there soon.
'We don't'? Speak for yourself, or if you are not speaking for yourself, don't just lump everyone together. Because you are making me (and thusands of others) sound 'un-american' by your definition of our country.

<_<

You have a point, though not one that entirely succeeds in defending America as a country. One needs only to look around to see that the vast majority are not helping the needy, defending the poor, caring for the widow, and what have you in their own community. It's offensive, in God's eyes, if you even attempt to worship him when not even considering such things. Just saying. We're hardly "God's perfect nation," and I wouldn't even try and say we're all that great, not even as good as can be, because if we accept that, then we accept that there's no room for improvement, and I think we can all agree we have that...

edit: Acutally, Aliengurl, the officers which the people voted into the offices of President and Congress sent troops to Iraq. It's called a Republic. Don't like it? Change it. Get out on the streets, rally a cause, devote your life to attaining office to make change if you want. Aren't doing that? Then quit complaining.

aliengurl7
06-07-2006, 02:24 PM
Im not complaining, im just stating the way it is. Don't get offended, im not trying to offend anybody.Oh and btw, If I wanted to complain I have that right.

amodman
06-07-2006, 02:27 PM
Im not complaining, im just stating the way it is. Don't get offended, im not trying to offend anybody.Oh and btw, If I wanted to complain I have that right.

And we have the right to get annoyed with you. The ability to do something is not the cause to do something. I have the right to go cuss out a guy across the street, but I won't. Christians should set good examples, as illustrated by this thread, rather than acting inflammatory imbeciles (in reference to the video, not yourself :P). If you wish to discuss the "evils" of the governments current administration, I suggest a new thread with evidence and proof, the basics of a debatable argument.

aliengurl7
06-07-2006, 02:34 PM
Nah, I choose not to go that route, it was just a statement I made. I believe we have the right to question our government's decisions that affect the people. Thats true patriotism. You can be annoyed with me its your right, im not offended because its my right.

disciple
06-07-2006, 05:22 PM
Hey, everyone but aliengurl7, the people run the US Government.
Sounds like something I'd do, there. :P

somasoul
06-13-2006, 07:15 PM
We give these people too much press. There is like 20 of them. Most related to Mr. Phelps. They aren't some mass movement of mainstream thought. They are less than a blip on population statistics.

Why let them on shows and provide all this media coverage of them? No wonder they keep acting this way, they are getting exactly what they wanted, and much more then they ever thought possible. In fact, their press time probably confirms their beliefs in their minds.

theelectric3
06-13-2006, 10:06 PM
yes, everyone has a right to their own opinion - thanks to the freedom offered in America, thanks to our men and women who serve this country to defend our right. (i support our move to send troops to those nations... i do not believe it was not, and is not, "evil" for us to be there.)

aliengurl7
06-14-2006, 10:44 AM
I don't think americans are evil but the american agenda,NWO is behind what happens with this nation along with rest of the world. I believe satan is behind the decision making to bring about a new world order so that everybody is forced to accept the mark of the beast and worship satan or die. Thats were its heading and thats what i meant.

timmyrotter
06-14-2006, 11:28 AM
yo Alien chick... the government is by the people of the people and for the people... something like that right? while we may not vote on every issue that comes up, especially national security. we vote the descision makers in! except the supreme court.... but they dont matter now. if we had to have a 2/3 majority by the people on every national security issue, we would never have anything done! we could have had more events like 9/11 if we didnt take quick action against Al-Quida. and who knows, Iraq could have done stuff... and the greatest threat is Iran, an i think we are overlooking N. Korea... but my point is that if people voted on issues like that nothing would ever get done!!!

why do you think Hitler got so far? its because with a dictator stuff gets done, no voting. thats why communisim is so much more effiecient. morans like human rights activists would be shot in hitlers regime... im geting carried away...
But spmetimes when security is at stake ya gotta do what you gotta do, and the consequences of protecting your country can be terrible, and expensive. but at least i believe GW had the right idea at the start.

timmyrotter
06-14-2006, 11:36 AM
God isn't exactly thrilled with America either. We conquer and destroy. We don't help the poor,our nation only thinks of its self,we oppress countries, America is basically evil with a capital "E". They aren't christians, but just another crazy radical religious group and I think most people can tell that they're out of their mind, just like the kkk and others that call themselves christians.


conquer and destroy? that lady is a nut, and you say she is, but you agree with her. we dont help poor countrys? Iraq? Somalia? Isreal? kosivo? do your fricken research!!! we are the most involved country in the world! too involved! Man you are off your rocker...

disciple
06-14-2006, 11:56 AM
Tim, I think that was a bit brash...

aliengurl7
06-14-2006, 12:34 PM
conquer and destroy? that lady is a nut, and you say she is, but you agree with her. we dont help poor countrys? Iraq? Somalia? Isreal? kosivo? do your fricken research!!! we are the most involved country in the world! too involved! Man you are off your rocker...

No, im not off my rocker what about Africa or other third world countries, you don't see us helping them do you? You don't see the bigger picture or where im getting at, we are involved because our government wants to take control, so the new world order can be established, look its like I said before, I believe satan is behind the decisions that our government along with this world(other nations) make so prophecies can be fullfilled regarding the end times.

Such as when(if this is it) we back up Israel and go into war with Iran, Russia is going to back them up and that will be the start of world war 3 (Gog & Magog), as prophecied in the book of Daniel. Its all to bring out the outcome of the end. Satan is doing his part. I look deeper into things then you think, not superficially. Europe has already in most European countries made the currency the same and America will follow in their footsteps. Satan has to make his kingdom on earth and he's already doing that by using nations as his pawns.

Isildur9473
06-14-2006, 01:49 PM
conquer and destroy? that lady is a nut, and you say she is, but you agree with her. we dont help poor countrys? Iraq? Somalia? Isreal? kosivo? do your fricken research!!! we are the most involved country in the world! too involved! Man you are off your rocker...

Helping Somalia by getting our troops killed and then pulling out? Helping Iraq by invading them and killing God knows how many more people than under the previous administration? Helping them by raising our debt to the point where it's going to overtake us?

On a further note, why is it our duty to help nations that can't help themselves? Our government isn't the moral police force of the world, we need to start looking out for ourselves more. It's not our government's responsibility to make sure that everyone in the world lives comfortably, and I'm tired of leaders that feel that way. If we get another idiot in office, like our current one, who knows where we'll end up?

timmyrotter
06-14-2006, 01:51 PM
you are crazy, are you a prophet? or do you think you are? cause if you really are, then im wrong, but i just think you are really upset about things and trying to make sense of them... Russia is way too poor,(come to think of it, they are planning on spending 183 bllion dollors in weapons over the next 10 years) but they are not stupid, and they need us... the world would go to hell without americam and foreign countrys know it... WW3 will happen, but i think its a little futher off then you are saying...

our country is interventionist, wich is strange considering we have a "rebublican" president, which usually are protectionists... i dont like GW, because he is staying too involved with other countries, not to say he didnt have good intentions from the begginging, but we cant just leave Iraq now, the terrorist would take over... but the point is, we dont have the resources to help the fricken world, we cant help every africa nation, Africa is screwed!!! its a lost cause if only western civilizations are gonna help. there is desiese, famine, then we have hurricanes of our own, volcanoes, earthquakes, and tsunami's... America has helped with so much of those, but there is only so much a capitalist country can do! now if we were socialists, it could be different, but that would suck for us...

so ALIEN Chica if you think the government should help, why dont you do something? devote your life to poverty stricken countries! complaining about how the government should do something about it doesnt get anything done, cause they dont care about radical ideas!

timmyrotter
06-14-2006, 01:57 PM
Helping Somalia by getting our troops killed and then pulling out? Helping Iraq by invading them and killing God knows how many more people than under the previous administration? Helping them by raising our debt to the point where it's going to overtake us?

On a further note, why is it our duty to help nations that can't help themselves? Our government isn't the moral police force of the world, we need to start looking out for ourselves more. It's not our government's responsibility to make sure that everyone in the world lives comfortably, and I'm tired of leaders that feel that way. If we get another idiot in office, like our current one, who knows where we'll end up?

i like the angle... i agree wiht what you say. i was just trying to say that we do help (try to at least). it isnt our job to keep the world iving happily...

Isildur9473
06-14-2006, 01:58 PM
i like the angle... i agree wiht what you say. i was just trying to say that we do help (try to at least). it isnt our job to keep the world iving happily...

I agree with you, unfortunatly our leaders don't.

timmyrotter
06-14-2006, 02:00 PM
what gets me more than anything is how they arent handling things here, immigration, and energy...

aliengurl7
06-14-2006, 02:22 PM
you are crazy, are you a prophet? or do you think you are? cause if you really are, then im wrong, but i just think you are really upset about things and trying to make sense of them... Russia is way too poor,(come to think of it, they are planning on spending 183 bllion dollors in weapons over the next 10 years) but they are not stupid, and they need us... the world would go to hell without americam and foreign countrys know it... WW3 will happen, but i think its a little futher off then you are saying...

our country is interventionist, wich is strange considering we have a "rebublican" president, which usually are protectionists... i dont like GW, because he is staying too involved with other countries, not to say he didnt have good intentions from the begginging, but we cant just leave Iraq now, the terrorist would take over... but the point is, we dont have the resources to help the fricken world, we cant help every africa nation, Africa is screwed!!! its a lost cause if only western civilizations are gonna help. there is desiese, famine, then we have hurricanes of our own, volcanoes, earthquakes, and tsunami's... America has helped with so much of those, but there is only so much a capitalist country can do! now if we were socialists, it could be different, but that would suck for us...

so ALIEN Chica if you think the government should help, why dont you do something? devote your life to poverty stricken countries! complaining about how the government should do something about it doesnt get anything done, cause they dont care about radical ideas!

No,im not a prophet im going by what the bible teaches for goodness sakes. ::] Russia may be poor but they still have bombs. I do help the poor by donating to christian child fund and feed the children. So there chico.

amodman
06-14-2006, 10:25 PM
Listen, I already said that America has much to improve, but fact of the matter is we give more money to poor nations than most other rich nations combined! I think tim is being a little 'bit too brash, but you should check those facts out before stating them.

Also, I agree with the sentiment that, our government at least, should back off on the whole "provide for the world" thing a 'bit. We're only beggaring ourselves for their benefit while their population skyrockets with the false boom we're giving them in resources creating even more demand. We should be concentrating on ways to help them stop from doing this like increased socialization (women in the workplace)/education & healthcare, proven factors to decreasing population growth (Europe and Japan have in fact seen a decline). Our direct food and what have you resources need to be directed at the poor of our own nation first. Foreign donations in that part can be left up to private groups if they wish, and private groups in America certainly do output more aid than most countries's governments as well (again, still much room to improve there, though the poor, needy, helpless, and fatherless of our own communities need to come first).

asparagus
06-15-2006, 07:34 AM
so ALIEN Chica if you think the government should help, why dont you do something? devote your life to poverty stricken countries! complaining about how the government should do something about it doesnt get anything done, cause they dont care about radical ideas!Whoa, how do you know that she's not doing something?

timmyrotter
06-15-2006, 12:07 PM
Whoa, how do you know that she's not doing something?
well broham, i just know that she is spend too much time complaining here that she wouldnt have any time to help ethiopians.

aliengurl7
06-15-2006, 12:15 PM
Timmy, you really need to grow up and stop acting childish with your personal attacks.And as matter a fact i am doing something, I give to feed the children and christian's children fund. So, like Asparagus said, you don't know, so leave it alone.

theelectric3
06-15-2006, 01:51 PM
ALIEN Chica if you think the government should help, why dont you do something? devote your life to poverty stricken countries! complaining about how the government should do something about it doesnt get anything done, cause they dont care about radical ideas!

let's not take debates and conversations and turn them into personal attacks.

thank.you.

NightCrawler
06-18-2006, 06:58 PM
You have a point, though not one that entirely succeeds in defending America as a country. One needs only to look around to see that the vast majority are not helping the needy, defending the poor, caring for the widow, and what have you in their own community. It's offensive, in God's eyes, if you even attempt to worship him when not even considering such things. Just saying. We're hardly "God's perfect nation," and I wouldn't even try and say we're all that great, not even as good as can be, because if we accept that, then we accept that there's no room for improvement, and I think we can all agree we have that...

I agree. I was just stating that it does not follow with necessity that if a nation conquers or destroys that the nation must also be evil.

We (the people and the government that make up our country) are far from perfect, and I think we (same country) are falling away from the Holy One -- at an alarming rate. Not that we were really by any means a perfect nation in that respect in the first place. There is much room for improvement, I agree.