What do you guys think? Think he had anything to do with the great change we see coming since this is his first project that features him all through out the cd?

** Purg **

i don't think so. if u look back into *skillet history* every album they have done has been new and different from the one before. this is just another change. i think john always likes to be different. just a guess

i agrre with both

as always u can't expect a Skillet albulm to sound like a previous one, yet i think Ben is a good reason why they moved in this direction

Agree, agree, with all. I think that it is nifty that Skillet has so many different sounds; we panheads are a diverse group of people. Some like them for hard rocking ype songs and some for the ardent worship cd songs. We are all aliens here though. All the same that way. We've got the common goal. Yeah, I think I will like Collide best of all so far, not sure though. I really do like the electro sounds. *sniffle* I will miss that being a big part of the music. But guitars rock too! Woo. Now I am pumped for the new cd.

The new cd is going where no man has gone before........ok, perhaps man has. But Skillet is digging in new territory.
** Purg **

yeah, every skillet cd is different and i think each band member effects the band's new cd in one way or another.

i don't think ben is a fan of techno, so maybe he did influence it a bit.

in either case, i really like how none of their cds sound identical. ya never know what to expect from Skillet, and it is always pushing them to get better and better. (instead of "well, this is our sound, we are stuck with this." and not having a drive to push forward, ya know?)

I think its soo cool that Skillet is changing the sound every time a new record comes out. i like the idea if i was in a band.

i wish that they kept the electro, and yet i am glad they r changing. a lot of my friends that see there new stuff from creation r like 'whoa! this is skillet? they r awesome' i think their new sound will make them gain popularity.

in either case, i really like how none of their cds sound identical. ya never know what to expect from Skillet, and it is always pushing them to get better and better. (instead of "well, this is our sound, we are stuck with this." and not having a drive to push forward, ya know?)

Yeah, that's one thing I love about them too. :)

i wish that they kept the electro, and yet i am glad they r changing. a lot of my friends that see there new stuff from creation r like 'whoa! this is skillet? they r awesome' i think their new sound will make them gain popularity.


I know what ya mean man, a friend of mine from church doesnt like christian music or Skillet that much. But when he got back from Rock The Universe in Florida, he wouldnt shut up about it. He was like "Man, Skillet's new cd is gonna rock. This one song started off all slow and then went into heavy rock dude!!!" Im assuming he was talking about "Savior". But yeah, new sound is gonna gain many fans.

** Purg **

maybe they will go pop! or even Country!lol.. but there always changing it so awesome. and i like it,.....but yeah Ben does have a influence i think.. he is also the young in... and all.. so i think he does but maybe not a 100% but alot i think.. and plus John is the kind of person who is willing to do something difff and so isnt the others..

If they go country, buh-bye. :P Not really, I'd just play their older CDs. :)

would u really? i wouldnt cuz the lyrics they have, it would take alot of gettin use to but hey...

It's not just the lyrics. :P The lyrics would probably stay the same. The music itself would change.

Imagine Invincible with a banjo. ;)

im saying i would stay with skillet cuz of there lyrics no matter what. back to the topic! :P

You say get back on topic, yet, don't say anything to get back on topic... :P

Skillet won't go country. John hates country music.

yeah, i could never see that happening.

jk.... ;D

That would be a scary thought........John come walking out on stage with a cowboy hate on playing the Jug. He would be like "Ya'll ready to rock n or roll, welcome bubba to the stage as he does a rockin number with his washing board and stick!!"

** Purg **

scary thoughts!

But yeah, I do think Ben might have had a little influence on the sound change since this is in fact his first time on a whole project of theirs and all. Im sure each band member gave some insight that influenced the final product.

** Purg **

Skillet won't go country. John hates country music.




And, God hates country music. ;)

I thought God hated Polka a lot more than country? lol

I think Ben had somewhat an influence, but not a lot. John is pretty much the main songwriter. I'm sure he and Ben came up with different guitar parts on songs, so it's prolly half and half.

Ok I don't know, but that's just my theory.

I love how "savior" goes from a really cool mellow vibe to a hard hitting chorus and stuff!

** Purg **

A lot of the reason Skillet changed their style is because Korey didn't want to spend all her time behind the keyboards. Shes done really good moving to guitar and it's giving Ben a chance to experiment more with Guitar solos cause she can hold the sound for him while he goes at it. Skillet has always been diverse in their change of sound. It keeps their music from sounding all the same.

Also, Skillet will never go country... hence my tagline at the bottom... ;)

CJ

Hehe..I love that tagline thingy or whatever! :)

If Skillet went country...Not only would I think they went insane, I wouldn't like the new stuff. Which isn't a happy thought. :P

I don't care what style they change to though, as long as it's some form of rock. ;D

I never thought of that..about Ben being able to do more solo stuff. That's really cool.

Ben already tares things up just when he was keeping rhythm and stuff on the songs...........now imagine what he will do since he has Korey to keep the song going. :o

** Purg **

he goes even more crazy. ;)

Hahaha, you guys didn't see the Creation video this year when Ben was going all over the stage durring a solo and ended up breaking his guitar?

CJ

was that Creation East? I saw that on video.

It was cool. :)

He wasn't even through the second song. lol

When I saw the guitar, there were all sorts of chips and dents in the wood. I don't think that guitar will last much longer. He's been having some problems with it lately.

CJ

I was at creation east, yeah.......Ben managed to tare his guitar up before their set even hardly got started.

** Purg **

yeah at kingdom bound he lost his hat.. and my friend gave it back to him and ben gave him 2 freee shirts.....

Wooah, I think im gonna start losing stuff around your friend. haha

** Purg **

lol.. then come to Ny.....

I really wish I could, I have always wanted to go to New York........seems like its the middle of where all the fun is at.

** Purg **

Ben is a really nice guy, if not a little on the quiet side when in a crowd. one on one though, he will talk up a storm.

CJ

yeah at kingdom bound he lost his hat.. and my friend gave it back to him and ben gave him 2 freee shirts.....


that was nice of your friend. :) Ben probably wasn't expecting to get it back.

Skillet won't go country. John hates country music.




poor guy grew up in Nashville too ???

Isn't John from Memphis? :)

hmm maybe, maybe i got confused with ardent, they're located in nashville right? either way it's still Tennesse :o

I think it's Memphis...right?

I seem to remember Memphis.

Yeah... I think it is Memphis. :)

Yay! I was right! ;D As long as you're right, anyway...

Does Skillet live in Nashville, TN?

** Purg **

I believe they live in Kenosha Wisconsin. :)

Yep. That's what I was thinking. :)

Ok cool, anybody know where they record?

** Purg **

Skillet lives in Kenosha.

John's from Memphis. Ben's from St. Louis. Korey and Lori are from Kenosha.

Ardent Records and Ardent Studios are both in Memphis.

And now back to Skillet's musical influences... ;)

Skillet lives in Kenosha.

John's from Memphis. Ben's from St. Louis. Korey and Lori are from Kenosha.

Ardent Records and Ardent Studios are both in Memphis.

And now back to Skillet's musical influences... ;)


ic, sorry, knew it was Tennesee and the country must of made me think Nashville...i do weird things like that

Do you guys think Skillet's sound will become less rockier as they get older?

** Purg **

Do you guys think Skillet's sound will become less rockier as they get older?

** Purg **


Are they rocking less now than they were 7 years ago?

I think that's 'nough said.

They are still pretty young though.

** Purg **

If Aerosmith can still rock after being a band for six thousand years, Skillet can still rock after ten more.

Skillet will still continue to rock intill God says its time,.. and even then i still think they will rock...

If Aerosmith can still rock after being a band for six thousand years, Skillet can still rock after ten more.


they sure can. :) i think i am gonna be one of those people who, 20 years down the road will still be listening to Skillet cds and rocking out. hehe.

Are kids are gonna one day think that this music is lame as lame can get. Weird to think about, haha.

** Purg **

If Aerosmith can still rock after being a band for six thousand years, Skillet can still rock after ten more.


they sure can. :) i think i am gonna be one of those people who, 20 years down the road will still be listening to Skillet cds and rocking out. hehe.


Amen my sisters! Couldn't have said it better myself.

jade - we'll throw our own cd listening parties. ;)

Here is another question, is Ben a influence on their clothing change.......hmmmmmm

** Purg **

Here is another question, is Ben a influence on their clothing change.......hmmmmmm

** Purg **


Nope.

I don't really believe he is, but then again, you neeeeever know eh?

John said they changed their style because they were getting older...

He said he was getting too "old" and "ragged" to wear the type of stuff from the Invincible days.

I don't think he's "ragged"....I don't think any of them are ragged. :-

But back to Ben....Ben hinted at a possible style change for himself in the near future....we'll see... ;)

i hope the style will be for better..lol.... i hope john and them wont rub off on him for worse...lol.....

old? come on. ::)

from what i have heard from the "collide" cd (songs in concert)...i don't picture old men screaming and old women rocking out. :P

old? come on. ::)

from what i have heard from the "collide" cd (songs in concert)...i don't picture old men screaming and old women rocking out. :P


Thank you Tracy...I completely agree.

i hope they don't keep up with this whole "age" thing as being some sort of excuse for stuff. :P

i hope they realize that panheads don't see them stopping anytime soon. 8)

i agreee,.

I don't think Ben did have an influence.
It says in the AY front sheet that guitars were by Ken Steorts and only Earth Invasion was by Ben.

Ben must have come into the band during the middle of recording so the songs and music would already have been written.

I think he has an influence when he did join maybe not as much but i think he does now have a mjaor influence....

i'd like to bring up an important fact: all the GREAT bands in history have been always changing and always being revolutionized, for instance, U2 has been ALL OVER THE MAP and they are right along side of the other awesome group The Beatles and so i encourage these changes despite the fact if i like it or not per my taste.

Well I never said there was anything wrong with the change, and I dont believe anyone else did either.

** Purg **

I think most of the change in sound can be explained by the fact that korey played guitar on the album. and maybe instead of having some slow songs and some fast songs they have songs that mix fast and slow in them. i personally think collide sounds like the awsomest skillet disk yet!!!!

I AGREE!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ;D

me agreee.

yeah, i think it is better that they have 2 guitars. makes a fuller sound and gives Ben more freedom to do lead.

Ohyeah and boy is he going to rip those songs in concert now like he has.... ;D Eventually who knows maybe kor will also...

yeah, korey does an awesome job. she hasn't been playing very long and already she is out on stage playing away. i'm impressed.

how many people do you know who have been playing for about a year, and are already on stage playing? granted it isn't the lead part, but still.

oh Yeah she rocks.... ;DBen is rocking even harder now!

oh i totally agree... 1st time i saw skillet in concert, i honestly thought that ben had no talent that john was totally holding the band together, in the rhythem section... but just recently i had the opertunity to watch ben as korey played, and he was amazing... it was quite a difference, however i still do fancy the electronics.

yeah ben does make a diff but they all do...

yeah, korey does an awesome job. she hasn't been playing very long and already she is out on stage playing away. i'm impressed.

how many people do you know who have been playing for about a year, and are already on stage playing? granted it isn't the lead part, but still.


*Raises hand* I've been playing guitar for about 3 months and I took over playing guitar and lead singing for my band "Free To Fly". I learned it pretty quickly, something I just naturally picked up on.

** Purg **

cool.

*Raises hand* I've been playing guitar for about 3 months and I took over playing guitar and lead singing for my band "Free To Fly". I learned it pretty quickly, something I just naturally picked up on.

Only three months? that's awesome. :)

Thanks, but just to show you guys that Im not Mr. Can Do It All, I can not swim. :( Soooooo for things I learn quickly there are also some things I learn slow. haha

** Purg **

well, at least you got guitar fast. ;)

nice tracy.... ;D

well hey, it's good to dwell on what you can do rather than what you can't do (because then you think poorly of yourself).

Thanks electric, your right! I just really wish I knew how to swim, trying to swim to me is like patting your head and rubbing your stomach............thats how hard it is for me when it comes to kicking my legs and swinging my arms the right way.

** Purg **

i'm sorry. :- find someone with a pool (with a shallow end as well as a deep) and have them teach you...

ha, I can't swim, either, and it's completely my fault. i refuse to let anyone teach me and I've never wanted to take lessons.

But I don't care, I'm not a big water person. And if I want to go in a boat, I've proven to myself that life jackets do indeed work well. :)

Yep, I'm all set for life. :P

sooooo.......about Ben....... :) ya know, his influence (or lack thereof, depending upon your POV). what about it?

Lori told me herself one time that she was one of the main influences on there heavy sound. She liked playing it better too. John has written the songs, so technically he's the one makin the songs rock though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kyle

john is a good songwriter but it takes a whole band to make the songs rock. (IMO)

john is a good songwriter but it takes a whole band to make the songs rock. (IMO)

i agree with you the whole band is what brings songs to life and make them rock not just not one person

yes, not just one peron can make the band heavier. for instance, i like to play heavy rock guitar. but no one else on my worhip team likes the same kind of music i do. so i alone can't make the band rock anymore than it already does (or doesn't).

I really don't know. But it seems like his style is different. All kinds of guitar are great. The music is written afterwords to fit the songs or so I thought. Could be wrong!

i'm not sure who actually writes the music, i'm thinking john cooper does but i dont think that ben influenced their change, i mean ben came along and they made a techno cd (Alien Youth for you slow people)

you are right, John writes most of the music. the other band members will contribute things and throw out ideas here and there, but (if i remember correctly) John makes the final decisions.

i'm not sure who actually writes the music, i'm thinking john cooper does but i dont think that ben influenced their change, i mean ben came along and they made a techno cd (Alien Youth for you slow people)
actually, AY is more industrial than techno. techno is a lot more syth, lot less guitars and drums (like, none). plus, Ben only played for one song on the CD (Earth Invasion). i don't think he had much to do with the sound. :)

but he did have a pretty big impact on Collide. if i remember correctly, the opening for Forsaken was Ben's invention. i'm sure he came up with a lot of other stuff throughout, with John there as guidance.

well at any rate in general the music is written first most times, I think. But then again, sometimes artists must try hard to fit both together so they match well. Just like anything else, you have to try at it.

yeah, i think ben came up with the opener for savior as well. (classical skills do come in handy ;) )