timmyrotter
08-05-2006, 06:30 PM
septemeber
9.18-19
Skillet "Whispers" (Lava)
http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16697
The song will be released to Rock radio.
you heard it from me first.

pizza brain
08-05-2006, 06:48 PM
What's the significanse of it being there?

timmyrotter
08-05-2006, 06:49 PM
what being where?

pizza brain
08-05-2006, 06:56 PM
The single on that list.

timmyrotter
08-05-2006, 07:01 PM
okay the song is being released to radio that day.

terrasin
08-05-2006, 09:36 PM
Those can change very easily and probably will. It wouldn't be smart to release a second single that soon. Especially when trying to build heat for your first single.

CJ

timmyrotter
08-06-2006, 02:58 AM
what are you talking about? they wouldnt have told the radio people that if it wasnt for certain. obviously rebirthing isnt gonna be there first single, at least for secular radio. it could very well be for christian radio though. they did that with A Little More, around the same time as Open wounds (or was it My Obsession?)

my sources are reliable, and if you still doubt that, then i'll fly you out to Oregon to slap me if im wrong.

terrasin
08-06-2006, 07:13 AM
You're missing the point. They are trying to build steam at this point. To have a second single out before the album is even out is not a smart move. Plus, from what John was telling me, they really want Rebirthing to hit big on the secular charts. It never will if it doesn't have the time to get requested and move up the charts.

While I don't doubt that the webpage has the info that was given to them, I would expect it to change in the near future.

CJ

JohnnyRocker
08-06-2006, 08:01 AM
yeah.............

will
08-06-2006, 01:29 PM
I don't have any inside knowledge on this subject so this is complete speculation, but here is one theory for the different releases.

Since Skillet is signed to two labels, each label is responsible for distribution in their respective markets -- Ardent to the Christian market, and Atlantic to the mainstream market. Releasing "Rebirthing" to christian radio was most likely Ardent's decision. Atlantic on the other hand has decided that may not be the best first single for mainstream radio, nor are they ready to release something this early. Instead, they've made the decision to do a different release at a later date. Ideally, the two labels would work together to coordinate these types of releases, but as we all saw with "Collide" (multiple release dates, different radio singles, additional tracks on the album) that doesn't always work so well.

... of course, that's just one theory with no real factual basis.

timmyrotter
08-06-2006, 06:37 PM
i agree with that theory.

go_home_red
08-07-2006, 05:49 AM
... of course, that's just one theory with no real factual basis.

i agree with that theory.

Good for you.

Radio is just like any other form of media. News only sells when itís news, so it pays to be firstóeven if that means sometimes getting the news wrong.

timmyrotter
08-07-2006, 06:53 AM
Good for you.

Radio is just like any other form of media. News only sells when itís news, so it pays to be firstóeven if that means sometimes getting the news wrong.

you know, i would agree with that except for the fact that, this is Skillet we are tlaking about. if it were a band like Tool, Linkin Park, or Evanescence i would be more likely to agree with you. my pont is why would a website like this lose their credibiity over a non-platinum band?

doormonkey
08-07-2006, 03:36 PM
I guess we'll see on the 21st, as that is the release date for Rebirthing on secular radio, at least according to the press release.

JohnnyRocker
08-07-2006, 08:56 PM
Just wait and see...I'm sure the band will announce something soon.

LeShep
08-08-2006, 08:52 AM
Has anyone heard Whispers?
if so where can I hear it?

timmyrotter
08-08-2006, 09:59 AM
no way man.

timmyrotter
08-08-2006, 02:52 PM
Oats said that Whispers is harder than Rebirthing, so it will be a better active rock single

LeShep
08-08-2006, 04:00 PM
wow.. I mean I like Rebirth but really cant wait to hear Whispers then.
BTW Yeah I might be stupid but care if I ask who is Oats?
I mean I think I kinda know he works for / with the band, but I have only heard 1 complete cd of Skillet and dont know the background of them yet. Yet I have listened to some of the older stuff that they have on the site but dont know much of it.
Leslie

zeroneff
08-08-2006, 04:43 PM
Oats said that Whispers is harder than Rebirthing, so it will be a better active rock single

Wow can't wait.....!!!x1000000000

doormonkey
08-08-2006, 07:37 PM
Oats is Skillet's guitar tech/videographer/whatever. And Timmy, sorry I disbelieved you so much, there just wasn't much to support your theory...I guess you were right after all though! Stinks that its gonna be so long before the single comes out on secular radio though.

timmyrotter
08-08-2006, 08:14 PM
well usually singles dont get released by the label untill a week or two before the album anyways. yeah a lot of people dint believe me. but it feels good to be right...

JohnnyRocker
08-09-2006, 09:20 PM
I don't know if I would say that Whispers is harder than Rebirthing, but it is definitely darker...and full of awesome guitar work and ridiculous solos....;D

JohnnyRocker
08-09-2006, 09:21 PM
well usually singles dont get released by the label untill a week or two before the album anyways. yeah a lot of people dint believe me. but it feels good to be right...

Yeah, it's good to appease your pride, isn't it?:P

timmyrotter
08-10-2006, 06:43 AM
well have you heard it john, and are you like friends with the band or something?

terrasin
08-10-2006, 08:48 AM
*snickers* Timmy, Rocker probably has the whole album on his ipod right now. ;)

CJ

JohnnyRocker
08-10-2006, 01:59 PM
Hey Timmy, sorry I made that pride comment. It was completely unnecessary...

timmyrotter
08-10-2006, 02:12 PM
no offence taken, besides if you were really sorry, then you would have edited your comment. ;) so have you heard all of comatose? and how do you know the band?

oats
08-10-2006, 08:38 PM
im oats.. im the tech.. video guy.. bus driver... john freeborn's friend.. whispers is awesome..rebirthing is awesome too..

no one better have the whole album on their ipod..
that would be stealing.. and everyone should stop fighting.. its not that long to wait.. im assuming whispers is def. going to active rock because there is talk of a video shoot soon..

regardless.. both songs are awesome.. rebirthing will build huge steam for CHR.. its gonna be AWESOME>. ahhh.. stinkbug..

im going now..

good day.

planet_kosmos
08-10-2006, 09:05 PM
yay! thanks oats for the update ;D

JohnnyRocker
08-10-2006, 09:07 PM
Ben is my roommate. The only reason I don't have all of Comatose on my iPod is because I don't have an iPod. :P

terrasin
08-10-2006, 10:59 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/terrasin/CDplayer_by_Gatobob_Spotty.jpg
;)

CJ

planet_kosmos
08-11-2006, 04:02 AM
haha nice CJ :P

timmyrotter
08-16-2006, 07:50 PM
i see an active rock hit!

timmyrotter
08-29-2006, 01:44 PM
a longer clip can be heard on ringtone sites!

timmyrotter
08-31-2006, 02:41 PM
its up here, in its entirety! and its better than Rebirthing!
http://www.purevolume.com/skillet

SwitchupchicK
08-31-2006, 06:47 PM
I just found this song!!! And I LOVE IT!!!
"My love is just waiting to turn your tears to roses"

SwitchupchicK
08-31-2006, 07:02 PM
So I figured I needed to learn ALL THE WORDS to this amazing song... they should be pretty much right, correct me if i'm wrong!!

Despite the lies that youíre making
Your love is mine for the taking
My love is just waiting to turn your tears to roses
I will be the one thatís gonna hold you
Iíll be the one that you run to
My love is a burning consumed with fire
Know youíll never be alone
When darkness comes Iíll light the night with stars
Hear the whispers in the dark
Know youíll never be alone
When darkness comes you know iíll never fall
With the whispers in the dark
Whispers in the dark..
You feel so lonely and ragged
You lie broken and naked
My love is waiting to clothe you in crimson roses
I will be the one thatís gonna find you
Iíll be the light thatís gonna guide you
My love is a burning consumed with fire
Know youíll never be alone
When darkness comes Iíll light the night with stars
Hear the whispers in the dark
Know youíll never be alone
When darkness comes you know iíll never fall
With the whispers in the dark

Maugrim
08-31-2006, 08:06 PM
I'm so happy with "Whispers In The Dark"! Such great lyrics and vocals, and double bass, awesome guitar solo, great keyboards, bass...dang, it's all good!

404not_found
09-01-2006, 12:03 AM
Yea someone posted the lyrics to both The Last Night and Whispers at songmeanings.net under "Skillet" They seem accurate but I dunno...

amodman
09-01-2006, 12:29 AM
Ben is my roommate. The only reason I don't have all of Comatose on my iPod is because I don't have an iPod. :P

So you're saying you have a zen? ;)

terrasin
09-01-2006, 01:07 AM
Zen Vision:M looks awesome. Just wish it came in a 60gb. Can't wait to see what the new flash hard drives are like. 600gb mp3 players and 6tb hard drives? :>

skelfy
09-01-2006, 09:14 AM
I love the guitar solo in this song...the whole song is just great. ;D

Gryphenix
09-01-2006, 09:29 AM
I have to agree about the guitar solo. Ben has really matured as a guitarist. He completely rocks this song, as well as Rebirthing.

theelectric3
09-01-2006, 01:26 PM
i agree.

great song. love it.

Shirtless
09-04-2006, 08:02 PM
It's the song that plays in the background of their in studio videos. I tell ya it's got sweeter guitar riffs than Rebirthing :D.

DarkestRose
09-04-2006, 10:23 PM
I really love this song. So far, this is my favorite song from "Comatose." Definately, this is my favorite single.

timmyrotter
09-05-2006, 11:18 AM
Whispers is now up on myspace!

TheFireBreathes
09-05-2006, 04:40 PM
Yeah yeah I about died when I saw their bullitan. Whispers is awesome.

theelectric3
09-05-2006, 06:01 PM
Whispers is now up on myspace!


yeeess! :)

skilletfreak101
09-05-2006, 08:44 PM
ok honestly...that song is the song that makes me want to pre-order the cd. it's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good!!!!!

amodman
09-05-2006, 08:53 PM
WHY WON'T SKILLET'S BLOODY SONGS WORK ON MYSPACE!!!!!! Argh, sorry, it's annoying. Neither of them "connect" for some strange as all heck reason when you add them to your profile...

riz
09-05-2006, 09:25 PM
I just noticed that also. Hopefully it'll be fixed.

terrasin
09-06-2006, 01:44 AM
It could be a number of things. They are getting an average of 10,000 plays a day so it might be lagged. Make sure you have the newest version of flash installed (especially since myspace upgraded), and hit shift + reload to reload the whole page.

CJ

planet_kosmos
09-06-2006, 03:14 AM
It just worked for me.

amodman
09-06-2006, 03:39 AM
It could be a number of things. They are getting an average of 10,000 plays a day so it might be lagged. Make sure you have the newest version of flash installed (especially since myspace upgraded), and hit shift + reload to reload the whole page.

CJ

Yes, yes. It could be a number of things, such as myspace sucking hardcore, or everyone's (read, pretty much everybody's if you check out the # of people complaining about it) flash player are screwing up all at the same time - enough for it to not work after having "Whispers" up on my page since it had "0 plays." That or Skillet actually has a vendetta against me, Riz, and the majority of their other panheads and attatched a viral piece of malware onto the songs they uploaded which, when tried to be played on our profiles, actually causes us to pre-order their cd instead. Those losers...I've pre-ordered the darn thing 16 times now, DON'T THEY HAVE ENOUGH FROM ME?!?!?! *cries*

dawn of light
09-06-2006, 07:46 AM
You can listen to Whispers on Purevolume.com it might work for you. It even plays for me at work and I can hardly get anything to play.

Tanel
09-06-2006, 08:32 AM
http://purevolume.com/skillet

amodman
09-06-2006, 10:39 AM
You can listen to Whispers on Purevolume.com it might work for you. It even plays for me at work and I can hardly get anything to play.

You don't understand the problem. You can listen to it on their profile, but, despite the fact that the feature is enabled and Skillet has encouraged it's fans to do so, you cannot seem to successfully play the songs on your own profile.

dawn of light
09-06-2006, 11:20 AM
Ok now I understand. I just thought you were having trouble listening to the song on their profile and just wanted to hear the song.

DustinRocks
09-06-2006, 12:29 PM
i <3 purevolume right now

skilletfreak101
09-06-2006, 02:18 PM
i'm having that same problem too....i tried putting whispers on my profile and it always says "connection failed." GRRR

theelectric3
09-06-2006, 02:22 PM
same here. :(

alienyouth9292
09-08-2006, 12:24 PM
you can listen to the full version of "Whispers" on myspace.com/skilletmusic. it is better than rebirthing....

savior_save_me
09-10-2006, 02:42 PM
Everyone. I AM GOING INSANE OVER THIS SONG, WITHOUT QUESTION IT'S ONE OF THEIR BEST YET! And I was even more taken when I heard Ben bust out the lead, WHAT?!!!! That's not something I'm used to hearing at the bridge of any of their songs! Wicked, simply wicked! This album is surely going to destroy Collide, no doubt. I predict a platinum selling album.

timmyrotter
09-10-2006, 03:41 PM
platinum will take a lot of requesting, better be ready for it. a rough guess is that skillet has probably only sold 600,000 album over thier first 6 albums. and to be RIAA certified platinum, they need 1,000,000 on one album, its very possible, but they need sucessful singles. i hope yours to hold is released to AC and HAC radio!

amodman
09-12-2006, 08:58 PM
same here. :(

w00t! Song adding is working now!

timmyrotter
09-14-2006, 06:55 AM
okay guys next tuesday is the day! one add this week already. so be ready to request like crazy at your local rock station.

timmyrotter
09-19-2006, 07:55 AM
Whispers was added to Active rock, and heritage rock radio today request at your local stations!

timmyrotter
09-19-2006, 08:03 AM
here is a way to request at a northern cali, station.
http://zrockfm.com/form.php


miss.
http://979cprrocks.com/skin/form.php?formId=441

timmyrotter
09-19-2006, 09:12 AM
You can now download Whispers in the dark on Itunes, note it is a radio edit.

meaning it is child friendly ;)

Starbucks5721
09-19-2006, 12:32 PM
Whaaaaaa...?

What did they edit?

timmyrotter
09-19-2006, 12:50 PM
its just the keyboard at the beggining... its a pretty long song, they did the same with savior. they also edited the curse words.

LeShep
09-19-2006, 01:00 PM
R U serious?? I mean man does anyone remember how long the G-N-R song November rain was... they didnt edit it did they? and now they go and edit this what the heck?

bballplaya4814
09-19-2006, 01:06 PM
but there are no curse words in whispers ???

LeShep
09-19-2006, 01:12 PM
I know... and thats soo wrong to do.. I mean I assume that Skillet worked hard and tweeked it to just the right sound of the song.... and the radio edits is cuz its too long??
what about Skillet process of making it all the right tunes, lyrics and their long days in studio, I mean why the heck should Skillet put their all into it and it get CUT??
man its sooooooooooo wrong

terrasin
09-19-2006, 01:19 PM
I think they would rather have airplay than worry about an intro to a song. ;)

CJ

timmyrotter
09-19-2006, 01:33 PM
like i said its just the intro. it starts out, "despite the lies that your making..." the intro on this song is cool, and its not that long, but its no biggy, im jsut glad they didnt cut out anything near the end, like the guitar solo and double bass.

Starbucks5721
09-19-2006, 04:09 PM
Intros get cut all the time.

But man was I looking forward to hearing John drop a few four letter words XD

skilletfreak101
09-19-2006, 04:15 PM
I know... and thats soo wrong to do.. I mean I assume that Skillet worked hard and tweeked it to just the right sound of the song.... and the radio edits is cuz its too long??
what about Skillet process of making it all the right tunes, lyrics and their long days in studio, I mean why the heck should Skillet put their all into it and it get CUT??
man its sooooooooooo wrong
they do that to tons of songs that get played on the radio. it's not really that big of a deal because the listener gets to hear all the greatest parts of the song, like the chorus, the amazing solo, and all that.

neb0789
09-19-2006, 05:00 PM
what is with all the talk about curse words?

st1_Lord
09-19-2006, 05:02 PM
basically...Timmy made a funny.

LeShep
09-19-2006, 06:31 PM
yeah but gotta love a good funny

timmyrotter
09-20-2006, 06:59 AM
yeah, i figured no one would believe me...

Starbucks5721
09-20-2006, 07:41 AM
I was just playing off what Timmy said :P

neb0789
09-20-2006, 10:40 AM
ok, that's cool, sometimes i'm just not all there, lol

timmyrotter
09-20-2006, 11:19 AM
that would be funny if there were some four letter words in one of thier songs... it would send the world of christian rock into chaos

LeShep
09-20-2006, 11:46 AM
hehehe yeah

dawn of light
09-20-2006, 12:05 PM
I'm sure they would lose a lot of respect from their (christian) fans.

timmyrotter
09-20-2006, 03:02 PM
This is jaw dropping!!! Whispers got 12 adds to active rock in a day!!! that is second only behind Aerosmith!!!

neb0789
09-20-2006, 03:21 PM
how do we find out which stations they are on? so that we know which ones we can request like crazy on.

timmyrotter
09-20-2006, 07:49 PM
im posting them on my blog, check it out. myspace.com/panheads

planet_kosmos
09-21-2006, 01:58 AM
Thanks Timmy.

terrasin
09-21-2006, 11:55 AM
Is there a list of the stations that are playing whispers yet?

CJ

riz
09-21-2006, 12:53 PM
I think it's strange they shortened Whispers. When I heard it on purevolume.com, the song was already under 3 and a half minutes...

Haven't seen a list yet, but I really haven't been looking around too ferociously.

timmyrotter
09-21-2006, 01:50 PM
im making one

timmyrotter
09-21-2006, 05:12 PM
list of stations playing Whispers finally done.

KUPD Arizona
KTEG Albuquerque
WYBB Charleston, SC
WILL Chicago
WKLQ grand Rapids
WZOR Green Bay
WQXA Harrisburg-Lebannon-Charisle, PA
WRTT Huntsville, AL
WRXW Jackson, MS
WJJO Madison, WI
XM SQUIZZ
KHTQ Spokane, WA

LeShep
09-21-2006, 08:19 PM
How do I get them to play in Ky stations?

timmyrotter
09-22-2006, 01:24 PM
request it!

theelectric3
09-22-2006, 01:29 PM
glad radio stations are already playing it! :afro:

Tanel
09-24-2006, 11:39 AM
This song is the #2 most added to Active Rock charts!

JohnnyRocker
09-24-2006, 08:26 PM
And second only to the new Aerosmith song.

Yeah, basically request it to any station that is Active Rock format. Other stations won't have it so it'll be a waste. Here is a list of Active Rock stations: http://www.radioandrecords.com/radiomonitor/charts/chart_free_selection.jsp?model.chartFormatGroupNam e=Rock&model.chartFormatName=Active&model.chartAccessName=Station+Playlists&model.siteName=Radio+Monitor&model.chartName=Chart

Sorry that link is so huge...I couldn't find a way to get it smaller.

neb0789
09-25-2006, 10:01 AM
is there nothing near South Dakota? Sioux Falls to be precise

timmyrotter
09-25-2006, 10:20 AM
if its not on there, then no. you might check out other rock stations because they may play it as well

timmyrotter
09-25-2006, 11:38 AM
here is an easy way to request...

http://979cprrocks.com/skin/form.php?formId=441

timmyrotter
09-27-2006, 03:03 PM
104 plays last week, and 2 more adds bringing total staions playing it to 14.

timmyrotter
09-28-2006, 07:06 AM
adds this week
WCCC Hartford, CT
KDJE Las Vegas, NV

Tanel
10-05-2006, 09:27 AM
Well, now it entered to Active Rock charts on #40 being the only new song this week to enter.

timmyrotter
10-16-2006, 10:18 PM
it needs your help! request it!

timmyrotter
10-17-2006, 12:46 PM
Whispers is up to #41 on active rock.

alienyouth9292
10-25-2006, 06:06 PM
does anyone know where "Whispers" is on rock charts?

go_home_red
10-26-2006, 05:13 AM
Itís back on at #40 on radioandrecords.com, although itís down 1 play from last week.

timmyrotter
10-26-2006, 11:57 AM
its stil increasing slowly, i have a rolling chart that is refreshed everyday. its gonna need more major market station adds if its gonna go big though.

neb0789
10-26-2006, 02:01 PM
i bet the higher it gets on the charts or whatever, other stations will be more likely add the song, which in turn will make them get higher on the charts! its a vicious cycle!

Tanel
10-26-2006, 03:21 PM
Yup, but they have to get higher on teh chart first ;)

Starbucks5721
10-27-2006, 07:55 AM
Whispers In The Dark Music Video Is Up On The Skillet Site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's So Good!

unshakeable15
10-28-2006, 11:02 AM
i got chills watching it. :) Not because it blew my mind, but because i love the song and the vid does a great job. It's no "Thriller", but it works (and a whole lot better than many of their older vids).

timmyrotter
11-01-2006, 03:49 PM
up to #38 196 plays!

Tanel
11-01-2006, 04:10 PM
Wow, that's a good thing! I actually got scared already that it wouldn't even start to rise in Active Rock.

Tanel
11-09-2006, 04:10 PM
up to #38 196 plays!

Now up to #36, but with -2 plays!

Tanel
11-16-2006, 10:56 AM
This week they have dropped one spot to #37, but gladly gained more plays(+20)!

timmyrotter
11-16-2006, 10:20 PM
they do appear to be gaining a little momentum. hopefully its a good push.

Tanel
11-23-2006, 05:19 PM
This week #34 with +9 plays.

alienyouth9292
11-30-2006, 11:42 AM
where is whispers on the billboard charts now?

Unregistered
11-30-2006, 01:29 PM
They are now number 31 on the Active Rock charts!! Go Skillet!

Tanel
11-30-2006, 01:39 PM
Yeah! #31 with +8 plays

neb0789
11-30-2006, 06:18 PM
totally awesome

timmyrotter
12-02-2006, 01:58 PM
Whispers is #35 on hot mainstream rock tracks. Billboard.com

randompenguin
12-03-2006, 12:15 PM
Yay! I was just listening to that song today and it suddenly struck me how beautiful it really was. Good to know other people appreciate it, too!

Tanel
12-08-2006, 09:06 AM
Skillet is still #31 on active rock and didn't gain or lost any plays this week.

timmyrotter
12-08-2006, 10:42 AM
34 on billboard hot mainstream rock tracks

Tanel
12-08-2006, 12:43 PM
Hey, how do you see the full chart? I only see the first 20 of the billboard rock chart.

timmyrotter
12-09-2006, 12:43 AM
you have to search skillet. then look at thier chart history.

Tanel
12-09-2006, 10:49 AM
Thanks!

Tanel
12-21-2006, 02:43 PM
This week on Active Rock, Skillet fell #35 with -12 plays

timmyrotter
12-30-2006, 12:16 AM
Whispers had its most plays so far in a week just now! woohoo. i thought it was done too!

timmyrotter
01-01-2007, 10:30 AM
still climbing, the R&R charts wont come out this week due to the year end charts. but whispers is doing better.

timmyrotter
01-02-2007, 10:27 AM
this is an active rock chart for radio. the R&R chart has a few more stations reporting to it, but i like this one more.

(pos lw)39 (pos tw)35 SKILLET Whispers In The Dark 2006 Lava (plays tw)234 (plays lw)209 (increased)25 (audience, millions)0.847

timmyrotter
01-03-2007, 03:45 PM
whsipers did gain some play. this according to Radioandrecords, a few different stations report to this than the chart i posted yesterday.
(tw)33
(lw)37

(weeks on)12
WHISPERS IN THE DARK SKILLET
LAVA/ATLANTIC
(# of plays)238

(increase plays)+15

(audience, millions)0.688

(audience rank)28

Tanel
01-19-2007, 05:45 AM
Well on R&R Active Rock chart Skillet fell 2 more spots to #37

timmyrotter
01-19-2007, 09:21 AM
Well on R&R Active Rock chart Skillet fell 2 more spots to #37
hence why i didnt post it wednesday. lol

Tanel
02-15-2007, 02:20 PM
WOW, Whispers in the Dark made a re-entry to Active Rock to #39

timmyrotter
03-07-2007, 05:21 PM
This one re-entered the chart

up to #37 with 140 plays