john316
08-19-2006, 05:14 PM
So what what do you guys think...Is this John Karr the culprit or is he just some sicko that wants his 15+ minutes of fame?

My gut tells me that something is not right about this...it just seems to cut and dry.

Brett if i remember right you are from CO...whats the thinking out there?

I guess time will tell.

lamb_servant72
08-19-2006, 05:39 PM
Or, so sick that he really thinks he did it.

This is too weird, I'm waiting for more info.

skilltroks
08-19-2006, 07:08 PM
Man, this story/case brings back memories. I was only seven when it happened. Geez.
Anyway, I think people are jumping to conclusions about Mr. Karr. It would be nice to have some more information about this guy.

TheFireBreathes
08-19-2006, 09:14 PM
A few interesting things if the Ramsey's killed her, is that there were spider webs covering the windows, and there was still dust on the window sills. So it would of been really hard for someone to get in. Also, the Ramsey's moved to georgia a few weeks (I believe) after she was killed. They didn't stay back to help or anything. If my daughter was murdered, I'd probably fight as hard as I could to find the killer. Another thing is that the ransom note matches Mrs. Ramseys signuture almost exactly.

I don't know much about this guy but last week they posted different quotes from letters he wrote to Jonbenet, well, love letters and they were pretty gross. And why did he confess this 10 years after the murder? His wife also mentioned that he was out of town with her during the murder...I really don't think he killed her. I think it's more of him trying to get attention.

I've read some stuff in Psychology that sometimes, when a certain person falls deeply for another person, they began to think in terms of that person. Like in his mind, he is 100% sure he killed her, when in reality he didn't and it's only in his head. If that made any sense??

But it's really hard to tell you know? I know my dad worked and was apart of this case, so he has tons of info on both sides I can try to get to you guys later.

lamb_servant72
08-20-2006, 04:37 AM
It is bizarre. I pray they will discover who did it.

I will say that I do not blame the Ramsey's for moving. It was very difficult for us to stay in the house after my mama died, with all of the memories of her there, and we moved shortly after that. I couldn't imagine living every day in the house with so many memories of your child there.

As for helping, they hired their own private investigator to work on the case. So, it wasn't as if they moved and just forgot about it.

Confessing to a crime years later is not uncommon.

Jonbenet had a man's DNA under her fingernails that doesn't match with her parents. The blood stain didn't either. There were shoeprints in the basement that didn't match any of the Ramsey's shoes.

I just think there is not enough evidence either way. There are still too many questions.

NightCrawler
08-25-2006, 09:45 AM
Brett isn't biased.

unshakeable15
08-25-2006, 11:09 AM
One thing i was wondering about the other day is if the statute of limitations is up, or even how long it is for murder? Or is there one?

theelectric3
08-25-2006, 01:23 PM
good question.. not sure.

John Karr kinda freks me out, to be honest. he obviously has issues (child pornography being one of them)... but the murderer? i don't know.

it would be nice to see justice done for JonBenet. it's sad to think she'd be 16 or 17 now...

john316
08-25-2006, 05:50 PM
John Karr kinda freks me out...

Yes he does me too...in a Micheal Jackson sort of way.

LeShep
08-28-2006, 12:18 PM
I just read this

BOULDER, Colo. (Reuters) - A DNA sample taken from John Mark Karr, the schoolteacher who claims to have been with child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey when she died in 1996, does not match DNA found in her underwear, a Denver TV station reported on Monday.

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KUSA-TV cited two unnamed sources in the report, which comes hours before Karr was due for his first Colorado court appearance. Amid skepticism over Karr's account, legal experts have said that a DNA match was critical to the prosecution case.

LeShep
08-28-2006, 12:19 PM
sorry its a copy and paste thing, i didnt want to mistype anything

LeShep
08-28-2006, 02:19 PM
John Mark Karr freed in JonBenet case By JON SARCHE, Associated Press Writer
15 minutes ago



BOULDER, Colo. - Prosecutors abruptly dropped their case Monday against John Mark Karr in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, saying DNA tests failed to put him at the scene despite his repeated insistence he killed the 6-year-old beauty queen.

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The move came just a week and a half after the 41-year-old schoolteacher was arrested in Thailand and put on a plane to the U.S. in what was regarded as a remarkable break in the decade-old murder mystery that had cast suspicion on JonBenet's parents.

District Attorney Mary Lacy said Karr emerged as a suspect in April after he began exchanging e-mails with a Colorado professor in which he admitted responsibility for the slaying.

According to court papers, Karr told the professor he accidentally killed JonBenet during sex and that he tasted her blood after he injured her vaginally. But officials at the Denver crime lab conducted DNA tests last Friday and failed to connect Karr to the crime.

"This information is critical because ... if Mr. Karr's account of his sexual involvement with the victim were accurate, it would have been highly likely that his saliva would have been mixed with the blood in the underwear," Lacy said in court papers.

Defense attorney Seth Temin expressed outrage that Karr was even arrested.

"We're deeply distressed by the fact that they took this man and dragged him here from Bangkok, Thailand, with no forensic evidence confirming the allegations against him and no independent factors leading to a presumption he did anything wrong," Temin said

LeShep
08-28-2006, 02:21 PM
sick sick sick

TheFireBreathes
08-28-2006, 03:37 PM
Yeah, I saw that too.
Hm, maybe now the media has learned their lesson to get their facts strait before announcing them to the world.

theelectric3
08-28-2006, 08:53 PM
yeah.. though it wouldn't be the first time they spoke too soon... i feel bad for her father... to get the hopes up once again to be crushed...

horrific.

TheFireBreathes
08-30-2006, 07:40 PM
yeah.. though it wouldn't be the first time they spoke too soon... i feel bad for her father... to get the hopes up once again to be crushed...

horrific.

Heh, I don't think you can say that quite yet:) . Because there is still evidence that contributes to her mom or dad killing her.

theelectric3
09-03-2006, 12:28 PM
true. i guess just thinking "wow, this girl's death may meet judgement..." then it falls through. it's like, you get all involved again only to find more puzzle pieces missing.

but to think of those closest involved... i can imagine how it would be hard to heal and move on...