neb0789
10-05-2006, 06:27 PM
Does anyone know any statistics on how Comatose is doing? Like the number of albums sold, or plays on the radio, or standings on rock charts and stuff. Me and I'm sure many other people would appreciate it if you have anything to share, thanks!

JohnnyRocker
10-05-2006, 07:44 PM
All I know so far is they got around 3,000 pre-orders.

"Whispers In The Dark" just entered the Active Rock chart at #40 and they got 6 airplay adds this week. Airplay Adds are different from regular Adds because it means they were actually played on a station whereas a regular Add means that while a station has added the song, they haven't necessarily played it yet. Considering that Skillet had a total of 14 regular Adds (before this week), 6 Airplay Adds is pretty good cause that means that almost half the stations that added them weren't playing them yet and now they are.

riz
10-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Cool.

I think someone mentioned - don't remember who - that the album is ranked #22 on iTunes, which is pretty decent. Skillet beat out Jet at least in the first release week. It's no toppling Evanescence, but it's a start, eh?

neb0789
12-19-2006, 06:10 PM
how many cd's have they sold now?

timmyrotter
12-20-2006, 12:03 AM
last i heard a couple weeks ago, Comatose sold around 65000-80000 somehwere in that range, and that it was still selling 4000-6000 a week. gotta love christmas time.

Whispers made it to 34 on the billboard mainstream rock tracks. and is sitting at #32 on r&r active rock (radio airplay)i believe.

the christian r&r formats arent being refeshed at this point and are a week and a half old.

but christian rock, which reaches a very small audience anyways. rebirthing is somewhere towards the bottom of the top 5.

CHR on the other hand though not official i heard broke the top 10 last week.

the last night will be going for adds to christian formats late feb. probably.

The Older i get will go for adds to active rock, and ALTERNATIVE rock. feb 6. atlantic looks to be pushing this one. hopefully it will gain enough momentum to go to CHR/AC. a somewhat popular mainstream single should make comatose go Gold (500,000 albums sold.)

zeroneff
12-25-2006, 07:36 AM
wow way to go skillet!!

neb0789
12-26-2006, 09:44 AM
500,000... that is a lot of cd's, i hope skillet can do it.

on another note, how does that stuff work, i know an album can turn gold(500,000) and platinum(i'm not sure)... are those the only 2 things that an album can become? if not, what are the other ones and how many albums need to be sold for those?

timmyrotter
12-26-2006, 12:06 PM
Gold = 500,000
Platinum = 1,000,000

after that its, 2x platinum = 2,000,000 and so on

you dont have to nessecarily sell that many units to get certified by the RIAA, i think they go by units shipped by the label to stores and such.

neb0789
12-26-2006, 12:16 PM
hey thanks for the info, i sure hope comatose goes gold!

timmyrotter
12-26-2006, 12:26 PM
its gonna need a mainstream minor hit at least. or maybe even christian AC sucess

JohnnyRocker
12-27-2006, 07:19 PM
Comatose has sold around 92,000 so far and sold 11,000 last week alone! That's great because it sold 18,000 the week it was released.

"Older I Get" is being sent to Active Rock radio and Modern Rock (Alternative) radio the first week of January but isn't actually "going for adds" until February (the label does that so that when it "goes for adds" there are a LOT of adds because stations have had over a month to add it and it makes the song stand out cause it has tons of adds).

I'm pretty sure that Comatose is gonna hit soon, mainly because of Older I Get being released. Remember, Switchfoot's "The Beautiful Letdown" took a year to start really hitting.

10,000,000 albums sold = Diamond

timmyrotter
12-28-2006, 09:06 AM
i dont think there is a diamond is there? 92,000 thats good, isnt that almost half of what collide sold before comatose was released?

Tanel
12-28-2006, 04:50 PM
Yeah, I've heard about "diamond", but Skillet ain't gonna make it even with multiple mainstream hits. For rock isn't selling that much nowadays.

timmyrotter
12-28-2006, 05:52 PM
rock isnt seliing? Evanescence 'fallen' went 9x platinum. before 'the open door' was released. and probably hit diamond by now (if there is one.) or 10 million.

neb0789
12-29-2006, 07:06 PM
gosh timmy, you are just full of facts aren't you? hey, its cool, long as you keep sharing that stuff with us...

timmyrotter
12-30-2006, 12:10 AM
gosh timmy, you are just full of facts aren't you? hey, its cool, long as you keep sharing that stuff with us...

oh i could go on for hours. i know so much useless info about music its not even funny.

timmyrotter
12-30-2006, 12:12 AM
Yeah, I've heard about "diamond", but Skillet ain't gonna make it even with multiple mainstream hits. For rock isn't selling that much nowadays.

Hinder, nickelback have sold a disgusting amount of albums this year as well.

neb0789
12-30-2006, 08:52 AM
yeah, and who knows how many people who download their stuff...

timmyrotter
12-30-2006, 10:20 AM
well actually they keep track of downloaded music too. at least ones done legally, Urge, Itunes, Napster. a single can go gold with 200,000 downloads, and platinum with 500,000.

Tanel
01-02-2007, 05:29 AM
Ok, so a couple rock acts have some major sales. But overall, you have to admit that other genres are on the top of music industry. all kind of variations of pop and hip-hop. In Europe, pop, techno and stuff like that.

timmyrotter
01-02-2007, 10:23 AM
agrred tanel, but rock has been selling alright over here in the states. R&B and pop does sell more, but pop is a veriation of rock anyways.

comatose should be about 100,000 now, thats awesome!

Q MGR
01-02-2007, 09:10 PM
10 mil is "diamond". It is much hardier to reach these days but not completely out of reach. If you have multiple songs go multi-format then you still have a shot. For instance, Hinder (break out mainstream rock act) is at 2 mil with just one big song, "Lips of an Angel". They sold over 100,000 units last week.

Let's get to 2 mil and then we'll see if 10 is in the cards! ;D

timmyrotter
01-02-2007, 09:25 PM
i'd be happy with Platinum. i think comatose has a decent chance at that.

neb0789
01-06-2007, 08:24 AM
lets just make sure comatose gets to Gold first, they haven't had any other albums go Gold have they?

Tanel
01-06-2007, 09:10 AM
Nope! Collide was sold a little more than 200 000 copys.

timmyrotter
01-06-2007, 09:39 AM
GOLD= 500,000 not 200,000 and comatose would definetly go Gold before ANY of thier past albums

Tanel
01-06-2007, 11:24 AM
HAha, I know, read my post more carefully ;)

timmyrotter
01-07-2007, 07:03 AM
i think you should read your post but i dont know what 'collide was sold a...' that doesnt make sense to me.

Tanel
01-07-2007, 12:50 PM
I answered to Neb saying that "No" (Skillet hasn't got a gold certified album) and then I said how much "Collide" album was sold. And I concidered it logical that "Collide" is their most popular album before "Comatose"

timmyrotter
01-07-2007, 04:06 PM
your grammer messed me up, no offense, you arent from the states.

Spiffles
01-07-2007, 04:33 PM
i think you should read your post but i dont know what 'collide was sold a...' that doesnt make sense to me.


It made sense to me when you add the rest of what he said in that post.

neb0789
01-08-2007, 03:04 PM
I answered to Neb saying that "No" (Skillet hasn't got a gold certified album) and then I said how much "Collide" album was sold. And I concidered it logical that "Collide" is their most popular album before "Comatose"

Correction... My name is really Ben. I believe it says so over there,
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Anyway, Its just the screen name I use, It used to be a nickname I had. Just thought I'd clear that up.

Tanel
01-09-2007, 11:39 AM
Ok, sorry!

lurchbyrep
01-09-2007, 02:43 PM
What you guys have to keep in mind is that you just cannot compare an album like "Comatose" with Evanescence's "Fallen" for record sales. The record companies set a target for a band's popularity. Pretty elitist? Yes, but that's the way it's done. Doubtless however, Panheads are hardcore, and we'll go to the ends of the earth for Skillet, but bands who've been so long in the small "Christian" section in stores really have a heck of a challenge ahead of them to be heard by the masses.

As for "Fallen", Wind-Up records (a Sony Corporation) picked Evanescence in their infancy, when they were hardly playing any shows, and had only released a couple of tiny backyard EPs at 100 and 50 copies a piece, respectively. The record company didn't begin to record "Fallen" for TWO WHOLE YEARS after they had signed Evanescence. They had huge plans to make the band a world sensation from the beginning, and used those years to prepare the band for stardom. Amy Lee (lead vocalist) took acting and performance lessons in the meantime, while the record company made sales strategies... an example of which was getting the band played in movie soundtracks. Sure enough, the songs "Bring Me to Life" and "My Immortal" got the hook-up on Daredevil (while Marvel Comic movies were at their peek, between X-Men and Spiderman), and "Breathe No More" was found on the Elektra soundtrack. This was all before the album was ever even hinted at in the view of the public. Soon, the songs were requested all over radio stations everywhere, and people were salivating for the release of the album. And so at its debut, "Fallen" became a giant.

You have to know then, record sales are not nearly as much about how good a band is as it is about how big a record company wants to make them. Yes, it is disgusting, but that's the way our consumer world works. Regardless, record sales aside, Skillet will be number one on my personal charts forever.

p.s. On a side note, it's quite interesting to hear how much "Fallen" and "Comatose" sound alike; there are striking similarities in both musical style AND thematic content. Coincidence?

timmyrotter
01-09-2007, 02:59 PM
jason, i agree mostly about the record companies making bands. btw you live like 30 miles from me. anyways, atlantic signed Skillet to make money, and they way it would work with new signed bands. the record label doesnt have to pay as much to get the album made. example, recording Skillet vs. Beyonce, obviously beyonce will cost more money because she is already a hit. so labels im sure want to make a good profit turn on new bands by creating a hit, "the older i get"? we'll see!
im not expecting Fallen caliber, but Gold possibly platinum not out of reach.

lurchbyrep
01-09-2007, 03:15 PM
Yes, I'll toast to that. Here's hoping.. that is, for the band's sake. Honestly, I personally could care less about popularity. The masses can be quite dumb, even if they all agree on the same thing. Nonetheless, as Paul said he was glad Christ was being preached, no matter by what means that was accomplished, so I'm psyched to see Skillet making a big impact on the charts.

p.s. Yeah, I noticed you live in Astoria. I go through there a lot on my way to the beach. Btw, you probably have to drive all the way from there to Tacoma, Seattle, or Portland to see Skillet play, don't ya? Or do they ever come closer to Astoria than that? Just curious. I haven't seen 'em in a YEAR now! It's driving me crazy. Last time, I drove all the way to Buena Park (Southern California) to see them on New Year's Eve '05 (going into '06). Super long drive, but worth it... even though the venue cut their set in half. Sad...

timmyrotter
01-09-2007, 03:19 PM
thanks for reminding me i needed to change my location, i live in scappoose, i lived in astoria for 6 months last spring and summer.

Skillet hasnt come to portland for a good 3-4 years now. i drove out to creation west this summer to see them. 400 miles... before that i saw them a Wild Waves in seattle almost 3 years ago now i think.

lurchbyrep
01-09-2007, 03:28 PM
Aha! Actually, I live in Vancouver, WA now... and I looked it up: we're actually only 22.5 miles apart. Yeah, I was going to go to that Creation West show, but I had to work, and I was really tight up for money at the time. I was pretty bummed about it. Skillet played at Wild Waves? I totally missed that. Shoot! Yeah, I haven't seen 'em in Portland for a couple of years now that I think about it. Last one was at a church somewhere. I think it might have been some youth event. I'm sure I was too old. But then again... I'm always a bit older than the average Panhead I see at shows. Anywho... I need to get off this computer and do something with my day! Or I can just sit at the computer and try to figure out which heads I wanna put on my new Drum Set. Bah. I go now.

timmyrotter
01-09-2007, 03:39 PM
haha. creation was sweet, 105 degrees when skillet was playing, people passing out. blood sweat and tears... maybe not tears, but the rest is trues. my youth group at the time went to the church skillet show like 3-4 years back. it was fun, thats really when i got turned on to them big time. i heard savior live before collide was released. i remember now, it was early Oct. 2003. so the Wild waves would have been May 2004, it was Skillet, Pillar, and Falling up i believe.
BTW its gonna snow tomorrow!

lurchbyrep
01-09-2007, 04:30 PM
Wow... was that show THAT long ago? It seems like just recently. I guess time flies when you get old. Yeah, I remember... they played Savior and Energy before Collide came out. I really enjoyed Energy and so I got excited for the new album. I remember seeing them again, I think after that show, in Portland. It was the "See Spot Rock Tour". Yeah, that was '04 I think. I remember the lineup: Big Dismal, Grits, Pillar, Skillet, then 12 Stones. It was in the Roseland Theatre.

It's gonna snow? Sweet! I just have to be careful, cuz I drive pizza delivery for a living.

neb0789
01-21-2007, 01:07 PM
how much closer is Comatose from going Gold?

timmyrotter
01-21-2007, 07:08 PM
i havent heard number for awhile... i'll go try and find some.

Tanel
01-22-2007, 05:22 AM
As far as I know they haven't even reached 200 000 mark yet.

timmyrotter
01-22-2007, 08:54 AM
no way they have reached 200,000. they are probably around 115,000-135,000

neb0789
02-02-2007, 09:58 PM
Lets hope The Older I Get gains some major momentum and carries this album through.

etic
02-02-2007, 10:07 PM
It's so strange! Comatose is the best album i've ever heard, but it's not even Gold!

timmyrotter
02-02-2007, 10:27 PM
give it time :)

neb0789
02-12-2007, 07:23 PM
How is Comatose comparing to how Collide did?

neb0789
02-25-2007, 01:29 PM
Does anyone know??

Tanel
02-25-2007, 02:47 PM
Probably at least 2x better

timmyrotter
02-25-2007, 08:13 PM
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=Top+Christian+Albums&pageNumber=Top+11-25&g=Albums
this gives us a little insight. my guess is its selling 2000-4000 sales a week. i would like to hear the official numbers, Zach?

timmyrotter
02-26-2007, 08:09 PM
since you are on Zach, can you give us an update on how Comatose is selling?

Tanel
02-28-2007, 03:40 PM
Yeah, I look at Billboard every week, sadly they aren't selling as much as some contemporary artists. But heck, let's get The Older I Get high up to secular charts and look at Billboard again :P

bob
03-04-2007, 07:39 PM
That'd be sweet if it got certified Gold. Time can only tell.

timmyrotter
03-04-2007, 07:56 PM
im pretty sure it will, with the success of The Older I Get, and The Last Night,. The Last Night is on track to be number #1 at on Christian CHR, and a definite #1 on Christian Rock. The Older I Get is already Skillet's highest charting Alternative ROck single. and is on track to be their highest on Active rock.

Tanel
03-05-2007, 07:00 AM
+ they just started their tour (or will start soon), this will surely help them to win more fans and sell more albums.

timmyrotter
03-15-2007, 08:10 AM
HA! i so predicted this! Skillet's singles heat up, Comatose re-enters the Billboard 200! at #197 with 4100 album sales last week. 197 * SKILLET COMATOSE 4101 15 3578 67347 the last number should be total sales. that seems low, does anyone know what the actual numbers are?

bob
03-15-2007, 12:24 PM
I don't think anyone does. I think the RIAA just makes up numbers.

PlayAtari2600
03-16-2007, 11:52 AM
That end number may very well be correct. Weird as that seems. It sold, correct me if I'm wrong, but around 15,000 copies in it's first week, and then it quickly dropped off the charts. That's simply because everybody who really wanted it got it right away. Rebirthing had already hit a peak and there hasn't been an official "Comatose Tour"(unless you include the acoustic mini-tour). Now that new singles are out and an opening gig is on the way, album sales are naturally going to pick up, but I seriously doubt that end number is wrong.

JohnnyRocker
03-16-2007, 09:04 PM
I'm pretty sure opening week was 18,000 but I can't remember for sure.

timmyrotter
03-17-2007, 08:41 AM
I'm pretty sure opening week was 18,000 but I can't remember for sure.

that is correct i think it was like 18600, and the "15" means weeks on the chart, so it didnt drop that fast.

timmyrotter
03-17-2007, 08:45 AM
Comatose has sold around 92,000 so far and sold 11,000 last week alone! That's great because it sold 18,000 the week it was released.

"Older I Get" is being sent to Active Rock radio and Modern Rock (Alternative) radio the first week of January but isn't actually "going for adds" until February (the label does that so that when it "goes for adds" there are a LOT of adds because stations have had over a month to add it and it makes the song stand out cause it has tons of adds).

I'm pretty sure that Comatose is gonna hit soon, mainly because of Older I Get being released. Remember, Switchfoot's "The Beautiful Letdown" took a year to start really hitting.

10,000,000 albums sold = Diamond

well unless Skillet has been buying back albums from fans, they have sold more than those billboard numbers i posted. this quote is from jsut after christmas.

skilletosis
03-17-2007, 01:37 PM
Hey Timmy do you or anyone else have any numbers on total sales for Collide and so far for Comatose. I'd like to see if the fanbase is growing.

timmyrotter
03-17-2007, 01:41 PM
Hey Timmy do you or anyone else have any numbers on total sales for Collide and so far for Comatose. I'd like to see if the fanbase is growing.

haha, i was looking for sales totals too! the only person who would know would be Zach

Tanel
03-17-2007, 04:05 PM
As I have said before, Collide sold a bit more than 200 000 copys.

Read from here http://www.purevolume.com/skillet it states "Collide went on to become their best-selling project to date, with over 200,000 units sold!" And on somewhere else I read 203 000 copys which has probably improved a bit by now.

timmyrotter
03-17-2007, 04:16 PM
As I have said before, Collide sold a bit more than 200 000 copys.

Read from here http://www.purevolume.com/skillet it states "Collide went on to become their best-selling project to date, with over 200,000 units sold!" And on somewhere else I read 203 000 copys which has probably improved a bit by now.

and that was a press release put out about a year ago, if i am not mistaken.

Tanel
03-17-2007, 04:21 PM
A lil less than a year, but most probably they haven't sold a lot more. Maybe 10 to 20 thousand. I mean, they haven't been touring and haven't released ane singles off that album.

timmyrotter
03-17-2007, 04:50 PM
A lil less than a year, but most probably they haven't sold a lot more. Maybe 10 to 20 thousand. I mean, they haven't been touring and haven't released ane singles off that album.

Skillet has been touring, and when a band releases a new album, the sales from previous albums pick up as well. so there you go.

Tanel
03-17-2007, 05:10 PM
What tour? The acoustic set? The article is from the last summer (if I am not mistaking) So do you really want to say that they have sold more than, let's say, 50 000 by that time? Cause if they haven't, 200 000 discribes the situation pretty well. For so far nobody has brought up any new information.

timmyrotter
03-17-2007, 05:15 PM
What tour? The acoustic set? The article is from the last summer (if I am not mistaking) So do you really want to say that they have sold more than, let's say, 50 000 by that time? Cause if they haven't, 200 000 discribes the situation pretty well. For so far nobody has brought up any new information.

well if you count the time between the year ago that that press release was made, plus the increase in sales since Oct 3rd 2006. than we could be looking at anywhere from 15,000-40,000. plus Skillet has been touring like crazy! true they havent done official tours, but they have had a full schedual. my points were previously stated. all im after is real sales numbers.

timmyrotter
03-22-2007, 04:50 PM
Comatose climbed yet another week on the Billboard 200 (album sales chart)

this week #190, last week #197, weeks on chart 8 ,,,Comatose, Skillet
(note: Comatose was on the chart its first 6 weeks after its release, and last week it re-entered the chart.)

Skillet's mainstream and Christian formats chart success have boosted sales. The older I Get is sitting at #30 on billboards hot mainstream rock tracks. that single also currently sits at #28 on the Active Rock Airplay chart. and at #41 on Alternative rock airplay chart. this is hands down Skillet's biggest success on mainstream radio. (i so called that) on top of that, The Last Night sits at #11 on Christian CHR and at #6 on Christian rock. The last Night has a good chance of reaching #1 on CHR, that would be a first for Skillet.

neb0789
03-25-2007, 05:14 PM
cool stuff

KazeYasha
03-27-2007, 02:32 PM
Last I checked they #55

timmyrotter
03-27-2007, 04:18 PM
Last I checked they #55

55 was their Peak position, which was reached the week Comatose was released. my numbers are up to date.

Mikhail
04-06-2007, 05:23 AM
what about Comatose and Billboard 200?

timmyrotter
04-06-2007, 08:20 AM
what about Comatose and Billboard 200?

last week it fell off the chart, but barely. it probably scanned 4000 units still. in fact i just saw this weeks, and they arent on it either. but both weeks they have been one or two spots behind some album on the Top Christian Albums, that was on the the billboard 200. last week it was Newsboys, this week, Haste the Day. so they are close, and probably pushing 4000 per week.
#16 on Top Christian Albums.

neb0789
04-10-2007, 03:58 PM
cool

timmyrotter
04-18-2007, 05:14 PM
man, i sure could go for some album sales numbers...

anywho, if you want a complete chart of more information than any person needs to know about Skillet's radio single's, go here (http://www.myspace.com/panheads) scroll down, the chart is on the right, i just updated it.

timmyrotter
04-19-2007, 03:48 PM
Comatose is up to #14 from #17 on the Top Christian Albums chart.

alienyouth9292
04-19-2007, 06:11 PM
timmy, your like the god of skillet chart information......lol

timmyrotter
04-26-2007, 10:32 PM
Billboard 200 (album sales)
Comatose re-entered with a 14% sales increase. it also jumped to #12 from #17 on Top Christian albums.

#189 RE-ENTRY. 9 weeks on. Comatose, Skillet
Ardent/Lava 94537 (albums sold while on the chart.) | AG | 13.98% increase. 55 peak position.

i did some calculations, and since no one who knows had graced us with definite numbers, here is what i have concluded. Comatose has sold or is close to selling AT LEAST 200,000 units.

alienyouth9292
04-27-2007, 03:59 AM
timmy, do u now think that it will get "gold"?

timmyrotter
04-27-2007, 08:42 AM
well it depends on how well their single's do. right now if it stays on the chart, and selling well, it will still take time. big tours with big bands (thats why im so bad about the flyleaf thing going down.) and radio exposure will quicken their road to gold. the best we can do is get the word out, and request their singles on the radio!

alienyouth9292
04-27-2007, 11:33 AM
yea that flyleaf tour was a big blow to skillet.....it sucks for them.....

timmyrotter
06-07-2007, 03:19 PM
okay i finally got a hod of some real numbers, Comatose has sold 180,000, so we are on track for gold, we just need a top 40 hit!

bob
06-07-2007, 09:38 PM
we just need a top 40 hit!

We're working on that. ;)

Joelle
06-08-2007, 01:15 AM
so they've sold more already than collide did right?

DarkestRose
06-08-2007, 01:23 AM
so they've sold more already than collide did right?

They have indeed.

timmyrotter
06-08-2007, 08:40 AM
so they've sold more already than collide did right?

i think collide sold 200,000 or maybe 300,000... either way Comatose will sell better.

timmyrotter
06-28-2007, 09:36 AM
Comatose just entered the top 10 Christian albums chart at #10.

DarkestRose
06-28-2007, 01:28 PM
How many album sales is that then?

timmyrotter
06-28-2007, 01:42 PM
well as of june 7 Comatose was at about 180,000 so it should be 200,000 soon. its probably averaging 3,000-3,500 a week now.

alienyouth9292
06-28-2007, 03:00 PM
how many albums do you need to reach gold?

timmyrotter
06-28-2007, 03:05 PM
500k for Gold, 1 million for platinum.

Joelle
06-28-2007, 04:51 PM
i was figuring out some calculations and if the cd's keep selling at the rate they are now then by the first week of december 2008 comatose will have reached gold.

timmyrotter
07-11-2007, 06:45 PM
pesky little Comatose re-enters the billboard 200!!! you havent seen the end of us yet!
ATLG #196 SKILLET COMATOSE tw 3,806 lw 3,712 total while on the chart. 99,872