Anyone taken a look at the Korg's newest music workstation? It looks awesome I must say!
http://www.korg.com/gear/product_info.asp?A_PROD_NO=TRITONEXTREME

Korg just came out with a lot of new products. For ppl that like to play keyboards, take a look at these and tell me what you think!

if i knew jhow to play the keyboards i would like one of those! (triton thingys.

*begins to drool* I must play it

CJ

i shell post this here as well.... since its kinda importany... go to buy.com (http://buy.com) in the search box type in keyboard then click on the yamaha one in the eletrmnic demperement, and then click on related products, and then click on the one for 89.99 and what do you think about it??

then click on the one for 89.99 and what do you think about it??
i would say that is looks like a good beginner's keyboards. don't get it if ur expecting it to sound great or whatever. also keep in mind that it pedal, so u'll might want one of those. it's not weighted either, so u won't have the touch sensitivity that you do on a piano.

*begins to drool* I must play it

I AM WITH YOU THERE, BUDDY!

Personally, I wouldn't touch Casio with a 10ft poll. Yamaha aint that great either until you get into the higher end models and even then, I think their Motif is lacking. If you are looking for a good keyboard, and you KNOW it's something you wanna play already and learn, I would save the money and get a Korg Triton LE. You can get a 76key for $1,499.99 at Sam Ash (Note: I will only buy from stores that specialize in instruments. E.G. Sam Ash, Guitar Center, Musicians Friend because of the warranty) and in the long run, it will be better for you to learn on.

I am looking into that Triton Extreme. I wanna play it so I can fall in love and buy it. ;)

CJ

terrasin, if i could afford that 2,000 dollar keyboard I would get it... since I can't yeah. well, the information that you two gave me was very good. thanks!! and that Korg Triton LE is hot, i keep looking at it and it seems to get hotter and more hot looking everytime i see it. Also, the closest sam ash store by me is in IN. I will just have to make a little trip down there. never mind, there is one only 33minutes away from my sister's college. Geez, i'm getting all excited now. never mind all that i found one in my area. boo ya. the thing is would that Korg be good for me if i want to start?? I know nothing about the piano.

http://yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D2712%2526CTID%253D205200%2526VNM% 253DLIVE%2526AFLG%253DY%2526LGFL%253DN,00.html

take a look at that skilltrocks. my family has that keyboard. personally i hate it, but that is only because we also have a korg karama, a korg ms 2000, and a roland rd 700. that is a good beginner's keyboard. i believe we got r's for around $700. the piano is ok, the highs and lows kinda suck, but the middle range isn't too bad. it has fairly decent strings too. once again, it's not weighted. a nice feature, that can make it appealing to new pianists is that it shows u the note that u r playing on the screen. it also has some kind of weird lessons or something, but i don't deal w/ them. they have some smaller models of this keyboard too. like terrasin said, casio and yamaha really arn't that great, though i do believe that yamaha does make good acoustic pianos. if you want a keyboard that accually has some nice effects, i would look into a roland or korg, i personally like korg products best, but those two seem to be the bigger keyboard manufacurers. i suppose emu is good too, but i've never played on their stuff. anyways, hoep that helps a bit.

yeah, CJ said not to touch the yamaha's. So i'm sticking to a Korg. but.. it does like nice... thanks tho.

Korg makes the best products. The only Roland equip I have is an MC-909. Everything else is Korg or a higher end synth like Nord Lead 3, Alesis ION, or Hartmann Neutron Neuronal. Other things we got at Triton Studio, Karma, MS2000, MS200b, and soon, Triton Xtreme.

The Karma is neat for sound loops but you can't really use it for much else. Soundtracking on it is pretty neat but it lacks the creativity ease.

Nord, Alesis, Hartmann, and MS2K are all synths and you don't really use them as piano type keyboards.

MC-909 is a beat box, it creates high quality sound loops.

All in all, the best bet is the Triton. Shes the big one and worth every penny. You can expand it, add new boards, ect ect. And the quality is to drool over. :) Not saying all the rest aren't high quality, just man... yeh!@

CJ

I got a Yamaha DJX2, it's decent. It's mainly dance type stuff, has a few different synth sounds and such and has like I think 2 mins sampling rate or so. The only thing I can really sample is the "Locked in a cage" intro or the "Invincible" intro lol.

As for Korg, I don't really have anything other than the Electribe R-1. It's mainly just a beat box. I usually just use it for different beats or so, or when I want to incorporate some electronic beats in a song. But it's pretty sweet.

I would go out and buy an Triton but I don't exactly know how to play piano, just some synth leads.

and I still want a Korg?

If you know how to play keyboards or piano, yeah I would. But if you're just learning or so, that's a lot of money to waste for a korg. I would get something like a yamaha to learn off of.

I don't know what to think on that one... Hummm... I might get decouraged on a cheap thing. I had that with my flute.. first I got a crappy one and I wanted to quit band soo bad. So, i don't know..

Nar, if you are serious about something, you need to get serious with it. You don't buy a $50 drumset from Sears of you are thinking of becoming a rock and roller. If you are dedicated to it and know its something you wanna do, get the quality stuff to play. Otherwise it just wont be the same. It modivates you to become better as well...

CJ

thanks for the insights and everything guys... I know what what I'm getting... I made a list of pros and cons (in study hall) of getting a Korg and a Yamaha... I could only think of 2 cons for Korg soo... I now should watch for sales and such.

how much is that triton extreme? cuz i'm thinking very strongly of getting it

I think a couple thou or something.

RAWR!!!! It's KLAY!!!!!

*points to skilletchickforeva's pic* He my friend!!! RAWR!

CJ :P

That's what Klayton of Circle of Dust looks like? I thought that was just a really bad David Copperfield look-a-like with really bad dyed hair lol.

lol yeah Klay's always looked like that..except he's got Celldweller now and is no longer a Christian which is really sad. CJ, how well do you know Klayton anyways?? i know you've met him at least once.

Well enough that I'm trying to talk him into producing my final cut. ehehe

On the other hand (on topic) From what I've seen of the TX (Triton Xtreme), it's just the Triton Studio in a pretty case with some expantion boards. When i got to look at it closer, it actually looks a lot cheaper than the Triton Studio itself. I am thinking twice about buying one now. It wouldn't last on the road.

CJ

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040205181836066216155132403016/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/702255/

Skillet was using a triton studio at day 7 today. i suppose they bought one. i wonder if they know that the triton extreme was coming out and if so y they choose the studio over the extreme. i also wonder if they downsized for day 7 or if that is their total set up now. they didn't even have the MS 2000 for alien youth.
quite interesting

Yep, I got a chance to talk to Korey about that. Her Trinity was trashed and she wanted to downsize to 1 all around synth, so she bought a Triton Studio. I did tell her about the Extreme but she said she wasn't interested in having a lot of stuff she wasn't going to use. Plus, the Triton Studio is an all around better machine.

No worried about the MS2000, the Triton can have patches loaded on to it from other synths, so she probably already did that. I was beginning to wonder when she would decide to update from her Trinity about 2 years ago. LOL

CJ

Her Trinity was trashed

from what, just general touring. i can believe that. they had it for like, hmmm, FOREVER.

what do you mean by trashed? perhaps the Triton studio is a better machine..thanx for the info CJ!!

When you tour with equipment like that, it gets tossed around and falls over and such... it's bound to fall apart and stop working. Such is the case with her Trinity. Shes had it for a long time and it's way overdue as far as tour life spans. I'm amazed it's lasted as long as it has as much as it got tossed around.

Triton is a waaaaaay better machine than the Trinity was. Better sound, better quality...

CJ

CJ why do u say the TS is better than the extreme? like i know TS has an on board hard drive and expanded sequencer and such, but doesn't the extreme have new sounds and more memory and built in expanshion boards for a cheaper price? anywho, i gotta see this casing for the extreme and stuff though, ur not the only one that said it may not hold up on the road.

i've fooled around w/ a Trinity before and that was the nicest synth i've ever handled. its soo user-friendly and the sounds are incredible, but thats soo cool that the triton's even better!

The most of it is that it has built in expansion boards. It does have some new sounds, but you forget that with the Triton, you can actually dump patches and upload your own. So the fact that it has new sounds isn't a big deal. I am still trying to decide whether it's worth getting another Triton for the arsenal or not. :

CJ

yeah, i went to sam ash yesterday. they didn't have the extreme in yet, but they all thought that TS was way better. but anyways, i don't plan on getting either one now. i realized that the programs are basically the same on the triton as to the karma, which i already own. so i am gonna try to save up for the roland v-synth, which is crazy awesome w/ tons of control and an electribe sx (production sampler). both have samplers on board so i am good there, and since i already have the karma and the roland rd-700 i have enough piano and strings to last about 5 years.

I wasn't really crazy about the v-synth at all. The sounds and such wern't really up to par. Now if you want an AWESOME machine, check out either the Nord Lead 3 or the Hartmann Neutron Neuronal. All I can say is WoW

CJ

hey guys, i'm in the market for some new keys. I've been eyballin the Alesis QS 6.2 or 8.2. Any thoughts on those? I'm tryin to work with a budget, so i don't think i can do a korg yet. As for where I'm at, i can play the thing. I don't know diddly about programming or all the technical stuff...BUT, I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY want to learn it, so take that into consideration for any keyboard buyin advice u have. thanx.

btw, can i stop by in here from time to time and ask stupid questions about the technical side of synths?

Define budget and what kind of keys exactly are we talking about? Synth?

CJ

As far as budget, if i got one now, i could spend about $1000. i'm willing to put more money into it, like waiting and getting a korg, but it would probably take a year or so. like i said i'd be willing to do that if that's what was best for what I want to do. now, as far as what kind of keys, (first stupid question, lol) what the heck is the difference? digitals pianos, workstations, synths, i'm not exactly sure what they all do.

as in, what are you using it for? Any specific type of sound? Like Pianos and Strings or little beeps and boops to add to songs

CJ

I can do piano and strings right now, so it definitely needs to do that well. I don't know how to do beeps and stuff yet, but I'd like to learn how. So, something with good piano, strings, pads, and organs, plus enough programs, samples, and stuff so that I can learn them.

btw, any thoughts on the Yamah MOTIF ES series?

I personally don't like Motif or any other Yamaha board. I am more for Roland or Korg. Personally, I would look at maybe a Triton LE.

CJ

which roland is the equivalent to the Triton Le?

Ehehee, none. :P Actually, the Roland Fantom (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040224021854068068065096320515/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/707043/) is a good equivalent to the Triton LE if not a little more advanced since it's Rolands top of the line right now. Brand spankin new with all new sounds. It's actually pretty l33t but I'm perticular when I'm buying something claimed as a Synth...

CJ

i heard from this one guy at my local music store that the Roland Fantom is the best synth to get if you wanna do technoish/industrial stuff. He said it blows the triton, karma, motif, etc outta the water. he also said it was super user friendly.

I actually didn't like the Fantom that much that I would buy one, at least not at this point. Although it looks cool, the user interface was annoying and to be honest, I didn't much care for many of the sounds... at least none I couldn't get off a system dump anyway. Personally, as far as true synths go, Hartmann and Nord will always be on top where as the Phantom and Triton fall short. TritonS-88w is an amazing composition tool and I doubt I would ever use anything in its place, but for a synth, it's not all that good.

CJ

so what is the difference between a synth and a workstation?

Synths have about 30 knobs on them that let you change the sound at will. Where as workstations now days are fully digital and you can only edit sounds by going through a procedure of menus. Plus, you usually wont find any piano, strings, ect on a synth. More so a collection of sounds that are electronic.

CJ

so, which would u use, for, say AY type stuff? A synth? Which is the Triton?

so, which would u use, for, say AY type stuff? A synth? Which is the Triton?

Korey has (had) 2 boards she used for AY. A Korg MS2000 (Synth) and a Korg Trinity (Work Station). For instance, she had the "Its been comfirmed..." sample, piano parts, and the sound for the beginning of Best Kept Secret on the Trinity. All the little other beeps and boops were pre programed patches she made durring studio time on the MS2K. Another thing is that in the song Collide, you can hear her MS2K durring the chorus clear as day.

She recently got a Korg Triton Studio and got rid of both the Trinity and the MS2K by dumping the pre-programmed sounds from both machines into the new one. It's a little more difficult for the stage performance cause she won't be able to edit sounds durring a song as easy, but durring a show, you really can't tell anyways.

CJ

wow! i didn't know all that, thanx CJ!! you should write a book on electronic music "Electronic Music for Dummies"

Nothin's beats the Moog ;)

Moog is ok. They have a lot of older synths that are all monophonic compared to the newer and better sounding polyphonic synths companies like Korg, Nord, and Roland put out. Moog remade one of their older synths recently and it looks really cool... but that's about it. One of the reasons synths don't have that upright knob system anymore is because it was a pain in the butt to use. Plus... imo... their new synths are WAY overpriced. But that's just my thoughts on it. Maybe I need to play around with one more than I have. But that's my experience with Moog synths.

CJ

I'm sorry, I'm only a guitar nerd. I didn't mean to interupt your synth nerdery. I'll go back to something I actually know. ;D

Hahahaha. No worries mate. At least you knew the name. ;)

CJ

well, i took ur advice and bought the korg triton le 76. I got several oppurtunities to play it and loved the way it sounded. it looks like it the good sounds i need, plus just enough technical stuff to get me started with that side of things.

Excelent! Now u can get expansion boards *grins* Have fun with it, mate.

CJ

Wait, isn't a Triton a sound board (British company) with built-in preamps and all that jazz. The local studio here where I'm from said that they're getting 8 channels of it. It's allegedly hardcore tone.

hey, do u know what the how to connect the expression pedal? i haven't bought one yet, but it looks like the Korg EXP2 has several inputs and outputs on the pedal. I know u plug one end into the assignable pedal slot on the keyboard, but then do u plug the pedal into an amp/PA?

Penyu, I'm not sure I understand the question. 8 channels of what?

The Korg EXP-2 is a pretty simple expression pedal. On one side, you have the volume input and minimum volume controls. On the other, the volume output and expression output. The volume input1 and output1 give a minimum of 0-50% volume capasity. The Expression Pedal (output2) needs your stereo connection cord that comes with the pedal specifically for that use. You don't need to run it from your pedal into the amp. Run it strait into the keyboard and run the keyboards output into the amp like normal.

CJ

But that's what I'm saying, Triton is a British sound company that builds, you guessed it, sound boards for recording studios. It's supposedly world class, no one takes a studio seriously until it has one of these. The studio here in town is getting 8-channels, enough for drum tracks.
Obviously you guys are taking about a Korg model synth.

I'm shutting up again ;)

thanks terrasin

btw, what kinda things can u control with an expression pedal? is it worthy my while to pick one up yet? also, could i get two exp2's and use one as an expression pedal and one as a volume pedal?

yay! my keyboard's coming today!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
(also, just tryin to get my previous question seen) ;)

awesome REESE!! give it a hug for me okay? ya know, i'm saving all this money now..what for..cuz someday i'm gonna buy myself a synth! last night i was talking w/ a guy who said that Roland has harsher(aka more exotic, electronic, technoey) sounds than korg does as a whole. CJ, what is your opinion on that? after all, you're the expert. ;)

Wow, I am falling behind...

But that's what I'm saying, Triton is a British sound company that builds, you guessed it, sound boards for recording studios. It's supposedly world class, no one takes a studio seriously until it has one of these

Oh, I've never heard of that company. :\ Here's the one I'm looking at buying for my new studio:

http://www.ams-neve.com/prod/gallery/lrg_foto/cap/Cap_abbey.jpg
Mmmm Digitally

btw, what kinda things can u control with an expression pedal?

Depends what you program it to do on the machine.

last night i was talking w/ a guy who said that Roland has harsher(aka more exotic, electronic, technoey) sounds than korg does as a whole.

With anything, it depends what you are looking for. I use a mixture of Korg and Roland products, but I also have other machines like a Hartmann and Nord boards. Each one produces different and expressive sounds that are all high quality. Roland has some nice stuff, but I feel they are still behind in a lot of what they are putting out. There were some new sounds, yes, but with Korg or any other good product, sounds can be dumped and uploaded on the boards. So if you find an uberkewl wav sound on your computer, you can actually upload it onto the keyboard and play it right from there. So to me, if a board has a lot of sounds, thats kewl, but that's not what will make the the board better.

CJ

Wow, I haven't been around here for awhile. Anyways, TerraSin, I have to get my Ms 2000 worked on, and the problem is the power connection. Anyways, I opened it one day and it turns out that the power connnection thingo is sodered into the whole brains of the keyboard. My dad said that they may have to replace it. Is there anyways to save off my sound onto, say, my Karma? I know there is something called a Midi Dump and Korey did something like that with her Triton Studio. I hope you can help me here. :)

Strange, the AC adaptor should be removable. Never heard of one that isn't. Well, what I would do is take it to a shop and have someone fix it who knows what they are doing. If you can't find someone who works on electronics at the music store, call Korg's tech number and see if they have the number of someone who can fix it around you. No sense throwing away a good machine if it can be fixed. But if you do toss it, send it to me. ;) I'll pay shipping. lol

CJ

This is one old thread. Anyway, I would like to get into this. I mean techno music. If I get/buy a Korg is it hard to learn how to mix and what not? And I do suppose what kind of person you are.. studoious and what not.

Hmm, well techno is more about beat boxes and such using midi controlers. I guess it depends what kind of techno you are looking to get into?

CJ

This is one old thread. Anyway, I would like to get into this. I mean techno music. If I get/buy a Korg is it hard to learn how to mix and what not? And I do suppose what kind of person you are.. studoious and what not.One word. ~~~ TRANCE ~~~
I like it better than the really fast stuff cuz it's easier for me to put a lil thought into my gyration.:azn:
That's just me though and I am subject to change.;)

Hmm, well techno is more about beat boxes and such using midi controlers. I guess it depends what kind of techno you are looking to get into?

CJ
hmm.. I really don't know. Actually I do.. hmm, just simple 1 minute demo stuff. I guess. Ahh , really I no nothing of techno

heh, loops are pretty simple to do. Any type of midi program can make them. All you'd really need other than that is a midi controller/midi interface.

CJ