what's it called? i saw it on their video but i forgot.

Hearts of the Innocent

I've been looking for a way to download it too, but I haven't been successful in my search. I'll let ya know if anything turns up. It's a spiffy video. I find it realy confusing to. But why not call some of your freinds and ask them.

So this is a really great band! And just to let you know they will release a Live cd/dvd that will be in stores Dec. 5th. And you can hear 3 songs off there on their purevolume page. By the way, you should listen the second part of "Shut Me Out" then you will hear how Kutless witnesses.


http://www.purevolume.com/kutless

And, of course, if you're a Kutless fan, you should check out the largest Kutless fan community over at:

http://www.KutlessRocks.com



Hmmm...seems to have quickly become the Kutless advertisement thread ;)

they are amazing...i pre-ordered the new cd

I love the new CD, Hearts of the Innocent. I got it from BMG and now it's #1 on my list. The vocals are amazing. I love Promise of a Lifetime and Million Dollar Man.

i just saw a show of theirs....freakin amazing guys.

I love the new CD, Hearts of the Innocent. I got it from BMG and now it's #1 on my list. The vocals are amazing. I love Promise of a Lifetime and Million Dollar Man.
hey i'm on BMG music! hooray!

I don't know about you all but I thought the vocs on parts of the title song for HOTI were kinda week. Any body agree?

I don't know about you all but I thought the vocs on parts of the title song for HOTI were kinda week. Any body agree?
yeah it's not their best song...i like it mainly for the guitar parts. but yeah i see where you're coming from

Personaly I'd like to hear Skillet redo that one.

Yep, Kutless is one of my favorite bands as well. They're definitely one of the bands I really want to see in concert one day.

hey i'm on BMG music! hooray!

Isn't it the best?! ;D

Listening to Million Dollar Man right now...freaking sweet song. Loooove it. Legacy rocks too.

Basically the whole album is my new obsession.

Isn't it the best?! ;D

Listening to Million Dollar Man right now...freaking sweet song. Loooove it. Legacy rocks too.

Basically the whole album is my new obsession.
yes bmg music is straight from heaven!

Well, now I have my brother hooked on Kutless...I was listening to it this morning and he comes in my room..."Krystal...what music is this?"

"Kutless"

"No way. It rocks!"

I was like..."I know."

:afro:

Their Dvd Comes Out In 3 Days!!! Ahhhh!!!!!!

i'm trying to convince my mom to let me go to their concert, but its all the way across on the other side of the state!!! i have till next there though...they are that good!;D

I never heard about any DVD. Yayyyy. But now I have something to look forward to...tomorrow!

i'm trying to convince my mom to let me go to their concert, but its all the way across on the other side of the state!!! i have till next there though...they are that good!;D
dude i'm totally putting that thing on my signature!!!!!

i wish that kutless had stayed with the hard rock sound that was in their debut album.....

i just got the new dvd in the mail today!!! i've already watched the whole thing and it's AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i wish that kutless had stayed with the hard rock sound that was in their debut album.....
their newest cd is harder than their first one

oh.....my friend said that it wasn't really hard.

Depends on the song. Some are harder than others. Ironically, though, their hardest song is still probably Let You In off Sea of Faces.

And of course Kutless has changed. If they had 3 CDs of the same hard sound over and over, we'd be sick of it by now. Gracious, if anyone should understand the concept of how a band has to grow and change its sound, it should be a Skillet fan! ;)

I love all three CDs of their original stuff. I have to be in the right mood for Strong Tower, though. I don't normally go for the worship music. You'll always get the rawest, scrappiest stuff in the first CD. Their 2nd CD, Sea of Faces, got them decent AC and CHR airplay and, I must admit, hooked me off our local AC radio station. Yet, for the AC-stuff on Sea of Faces like the title track and It's Like Me, there's something else that rocks like Let You In and Passion.

Hearts of the Innocent is slow and pretty in some places (Promise of a Lifetime) and harder in others (Beyond the Surface). In general, it's not as hard as their debut or the harder stuff on Sea of Faces, but that doesn't make it tame, by any means. Hearts of the Innocent is also, to me anyway, the best of the CDs lyrically.

their first cd is grungier but i still think that besides their slower songs, hearts of the innocent is harder.

their first cd is grungier but i still think that besides their slower songs, hearts of the innocent is harder.

Agreed. And the new dvd is amazing. They are such an amazing band!

kutless is an ok band...Says the post queen of KR..

Maybe its just one of those cd's you have to warm up to... but I pre-ordered Hearts of the Innocent and I was really disappointed. I like the Self-Titled best and then I just thought they gradually got worse. I don't know. I like the new lyrics, but it seems like he's stretching almost. Trying to make it fit where it doesn't. But like I said, I may just need to listen to it and get used to it.

Maybe its just one of those cd's you have to warm up to... but I pre-ordered Hearts of the Innocent and I was really disappointed. I like the Self-Titled best and then I just thought they gradually got worse. I don't know. I like the new lyrics, but it seems like he's stretching almost. Trying to make it fit where it doesn't. But like I said, I may just need to listen to it and get used to it.
i personally think that their first cd is their most unoriginal cd. don't get me wrong, i love the cd to death, but it's nothing really original...sumrall tries hard to copy scott stapp's ERRRR vocals and a couple of the songs are just downright carbon-copies of creed songs with different lyrics. they got more original and formed their own sound with each new cd that they've come out with. with hearts of the innocent, they have their own sound other than trying to sound like creed. i think the cd is amazing

They're coming to Salem (OR) in March.

Just recieved this from Kutless bulletin post on myspace

May 8, 2007 11:33 PM
Subject A New Journey For Ryan
Body: May 7, 2007

A New Journey for Ryan

After nearly 8 years of playing music together a new journey awaits for both Ryan Shrout and Kutless. Ryan has chosen to leave the band and will be pursuing other interests near his home in Vancouver, WA. We believe that there is a time and season for everything, and we thank Ryan for his dedication to this band and the hard work that he has put into this ministry. We applaud his dedication to his family and God’s calling in his life and we, as Kutless, wish him all the best as he continues to serve our Lord.



Hello Fans and Friends,

After much thought and prayer I have decided to leave my position as guitar player for Kutless. As many of you know my daughter was born on January 12th of this year. What most of you do not know is that she was born with an eye condition called Coloboma. Coloboma is pretty much gaps in some or all of the structures of the eyes. This condition is usually apparent by a keyhole shaped iris. This condition varies in severity. Today’s technology is not advanced enough to fix this condition. The statistics for Coloboma are 1 in 10, 000 children are born with this. In Ella’s case it affects both eyes, the condition goes back pretty severely into the structure of her eyes affecting her optic nerve and retina, so her vision is impaired. However, the level it is affected is still unknown. The Pediatric Ophthalmologist believes that her left eye will be legally blind and is still not sure about her right eye. Needless to say I find that it is more important for me to be around to support my wife and daughter in the unknown journey ahead. Ella’s vision capabilities are going to be a wait and see situation. We have been to the pediatric eye specialist 4 times and continue to have to go quite frequently. This is why I feel God is leading me home, to truly be the best father and husband I can be.

I wanted to write this letter to thank you for your continued love and support for my family and me. I leave the band on good terms with the other guys, and also their support for my wife, baby girl and I. We both wish each other all the success in our future life paths. In my case I really feel like I am fulfilling what God’s will is for my life. As much as I enjoy being out their every night, playing for you, and sharing the gospel I know that if I do not obey God’s will for my life, my ministry will not continue to be as blessed as it has been. This will not be the end of me playing guitar, after I get things figured out at home I hope to be able to get back in the industry somewhere. I know God is still calling me to music, I just feel that right now I need to fulfill my calling as a husband and father. My family and I thank you from the bottom of our heart for all that you have done for us. I hope that I have impacted your life as much as you have made a difference in mine. I have loved every moment I have gotten to play for you and hope it will not be too long before I am out there again. I hope to see you or hear from you soon and I will cherish the memories I have made in these last 8 years forever. You are truly the best fans in the world. If you would like to do something for our family the best thing is just to continue praying for my family and I. We want God’s will to be done in our lives, whether that be a healing or peace for our family.

Thanks, you rock!

Ryan Shrout and family

You can email Ryan at ryan@kutless.com

Just recieved this from Kutless bulletin post on myspace

May 8, 2007 11:33 PM
Subject A New Journey For Ryan
Body: May 7, 2007

A New Journey for Ryan

After nearly 8 years of playing music together a new journey awaits for both Ryan Shrout and Kutless. Ryan has chosen to leave the band and will be pursuing other interests near his home in Vancouver, WA. We believe that there is a time and season for everything, and we thank Ryan for his dedication to this band and the hard work that he has put into this ministry. We applaud his dedication to his family and God’s calling in his life and we, as Kutless, wish him all the best as he continues to serve our Lord.



Hello Fans and Friends,

After much thought and prayer I have decided to leave my position as guitar player for Kutless. As many of you know my daughter was born on January 12th of this year. What most of you do not know is that she was born with an eye condition called Coloboma. Coloboma is pretty much gaps in some or all of the structures of the eyes. This condition is usually apparent by a keyhole shaped iris. This condition varies in severity. Today’s technology is not advanced enough to fix this condition. The statistics for Coloboma are 1 in 10, 000 children are born with this. In Ella’s case it affects both eyes, the condition goes back pretty severely into the structure of her eyes affecting her optic nerve and retina, so her vision is impaired. However, the level it is affected is still unknown. The Pediatric Ophthalmologist believes that her left eye will be legally blind and is still not sure about her right eye. Needless to say I find that it is more important for me to be around to support my wife and daughter in the unknown journey ahead. Ella’s vision capabilities are going to be a wait and see situation. We have been to the pediatric eye specialist 4 times and continue to have to go quite frequently. This is why I feel God is leading me home, to truly be the best father and husband I can be.

I wanted to write this letter to thank you for your continued love and support for my family and me. I leave the band on good terms with the other guys, and also their support for my wife, baby girl and I. We both wish each other all the success in our future life paths. In my case I really feel like I am fulfilling what God’s will is for my life. As much as I enjoy being out their every night, playing for you, and sharing the gospel I know that if I do not obey God’s will for my life, my ministry will not continue to be as blessed as it has been. This will not be the end of me playing guitar, after I get things figured out at home I hope to be able to get back in the industry somewhere. I know God is still calling me to music, I just feel that right now I need to fulfill my calling as a husband and father. My family and I thank you from the bottom of our heart for all that you have done for us. I hope that I have impacted your life as much as you have made a difference in mine. I have loved every moment I have gotten to play for you and hope it will not be too long before I am out there again. I hope to see you or hear from you soon and I will cherish the memories I have made in these last 8 years forever. You are truly the best fans in the world. If you would like to do something for our family the best thing is just to continue praying for my family and I. We want God’s will to be done in our lives, whether that be a healing or peace for our family.

Thanks, you rock!

Ryan Shrout and family

You can email Ryan at ryan@kutless.com
yeah i read that today. that's too bad. i wonder who will replace him.

yeah I get to see them and KJ-52 and Stellar Kart in the July Jam in Pikeville Ky.. and then read that and wondered whats going to happen about the band.. Dont get me wrong I totally understand him leaving to be with his family during all this the family is going threw I mean gosh my kids are my world.. I would do the same...

Which guy is Ryan?

Which guy is Ryan?
ryan shrout i believe is the long blonde-haired guitarist.

Ok. At least he isn't the lead singer. :P

Dude. Ryan Shrout is the rhythm guitarist and he sings! Have you heard his voice? He rocks! Okay you can believe what you want but at least please pray for him and his family.

One more thing, if anyone wants to write Ryan Shrout here is his e-mail. ryan@kutless.com I'm sure he would appreciate it if people took the time to write him and say thanks for all of his music.

Ok. At least he isn't the lead singer. :P

i wouldnt mind their lead singer going... he is like the only original member left now anyways. not to mention Kutless has gone down hill musically IMO since their first release.

Kutless is really cool. Have you heard their new cd? You have to give them a chance. They have great music and lyrics. I especially like Winds Of Change. I can play the lead guitar parts and the bass parts.

haha, yeah i used to be a big kutless fan, and ive seen them in concert a few times, ive been to the church where they started (they started 20 miles from my house) and i have listened to every song they have come out with. i just dont like them anymore. but to each his(her) own.

Okay. I can deal with that. What bands do you like?

ill tell you what, ill make a list on my profile and you can view it there.

Okay cool. I'll see you later! Have a nice day!

I've probably heard him sing, but I don't know what. And there is a band, I forget who, who renamed themselves because their singer changed. Its not the same band with a diff singer, Timmy. But other guys, unless they write the music and whatnot, are easier to let go of.

I've probably heard him sing, but I don't know what. And there is a band, I forget who, who renamed themselves because their singer changed. Its not the same band with a diff singer, Timmy. But other guys, unless they write the music and whatnot, are easier to let go of. it really depends, there are bands that keep the name when the singer leaves. like Further Seems Forever, they stayed the same when their singer started Dashboard confessional. or Newsboys changed singers once.

I was talking about a certain band, though...It has to do with a leaf or wing or something...And Newsboys changed before they were as big as they are, and it was like the back-up singer.

he was the drummer, but i dont know that he sung.

I'm pretty sure he did. And obviously he can sing. :P Often the reason a member within a band replaces the singer is because they were back-up. I know that a local band did that.

wow. i can't believe he's leaving. i have a poster of kutless and i talk to his eyebrows.

You what? Uh...Ok...

ya...some dumb inside joke.

Inside jokes aren't fun if you're not inside. :P

true dat^..i guess i owe my rejuvanation to christian music to kutless, if i hadn't statred listening to them..i'd still be listening to all that satanic garbage i was into.

This just in: it is apparent that Nick Departee(kutless' guitar tech) is taking Ryan's place for now. Just thought you should know ;)

This just in: it is apparent that Nick Departee(kutless' guitar tech) is taking Ryan's place for now. Just thought you should know ;)
maybe he'll start adding a bunch of really sweet guitar solos and what not to their songs...hehe that would be awesome

Could be.

The Kutless fans seem split lately. The veteran fans want the edginess of the debut CD back. The newer fans seem to like the Kutless that recently toured with Newsboys (more AC-friendly).

I'm interested to see where the band is going musically. Assuming they record some new material instead of having the label continue to milk existing stuff to generate the almighty dollar ::]

That's a nice promotion: guitar tech ---> band member.

Yeah, I'd like to see them do edgier songs again. But they seem to be leaning towards poppy songs.

I liked their edgier songs too. Kutless was a factor in me getting more serious about God with their song "Run". I remember semi-sleeping in the church van on the way to a youth conference and that song was playing and I could just feel God calling me to not avoid Him, not think about Him only for "churchy" stuff but to let Him have every aspect of my life.

i really don't think they've lost their edginess. it's just that sadly their more contemporary songs are what you hear on the radio. but i think as a band, they are still rockers, and that's what they prefer to do. Sumrall even said that when I saw them with newsboys a few months back. he said something like, "Now you should all know that we are a ROCK band and we like to ROCK OUT."

They should be a rock band then and not a rock band playing contemporary songs. I don't mind that they do worship songs during their sets because Skillet does that sometimes too, but when I saw them, their set got really slow for awhile.

^you didn't happen to see them on the Go tour did you?

^i wish coulda gone to that

I did see them on the Go tour. They did a lot of their rock songs first, then had a length of their slower songs and did some worship songs. Then they did another faster song but it was hard to switch back into rock so suddenly.

I did see them on the Go tour. They did a lot of their rock songs first, then had a length of their slower songs and did some worship songs. Then they did another faster song but it was hard to switch back into rock so suddenly.Yea, the guys everso affectionately called the setlist they did on the Go tour "the sissy set list" because they had to dumb it down for the newsboys fans...If you ask me, the Newsboys and Kutless don't fit together as far as sound goes...

Newsboys fans are not good rockers. I was in the front row and everyone around me was sitting down watching Stellar Kart and Kutless play. Sitting!

Ha..go back to the 90s or learn to rock. Not that the 90s couldn't rock, I'm not really sure. :-\

& i thought this thread was about Kutless........i dont know if any of y'all are aware of this......but the blonde guitarist (Ryan Shrout) left Kutless

I jumped up and down in front of my seat with my bro while the 7000 other people just sat.... (newsboys) And we knew that Ryan left, ya?

has anybody entered the contest where you make a video of yourself playing a kutless song and send it in to the record company for a chance to play with them? and win a PRS guitar?

I jumped up and down in front of my seat with my bro while the 7000 other people just sat.... (newsboys) And we knew that Ryan left, ya?

So were you at the Go Tour? The one in Oregon?

I haven't really thought of making a vid...Maybe I should. And Jen, I saw then like 6/7 years ago where they played in a baseball diamond, and the second time was 2/3 years ago at a HUGE leadership conference. Both times in the same city. ;D